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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCdQfbLw7o
this is a good watch
Pretty crazy that for 50+ years technology has not been able to create a membrane that beats Gore-Tex.
indeed, ive been searching for some decent rain pants that arent 300$ LOL. i have old rain gear my dad got from base Borden, but the pants are way to rubbery and do make some noise when walking.
that aside they are 100% waterproof but its like wearing a garbage bag. i dont mind the jacket. but i do want different pants if i can find any. i tried some from canadian tire, didnt expect much. water seeped through and my butt and knees were soaked underneath.
i mainly just want a pair of rain pants that wont let water seep through to my butt, but after watching this its a pretty slim chance haha.
I'd like to kick the Gore Tex inventor in the sac. I have $500 waterfowl squad parkas and cabelas top of the line parkas and rain gear. They are all as useless as teats on a boar pig. The crap about being able to "breath" is a pile of crap. You end up completely soaked from the inside as soon as your body warms up. 50 plus years has taught me that absolutely nothing beats wool. Merino wool undershirt with wool sweater on top, then a set of rubberized canvas rain bibs and jacket. The same as commercial fishermen wear. Doesn't matter if you sweat as the wool wicks it away from your body.
X2 Fenelon- i agreed .If one wants 100 % waterproofness,all the membranes will fail ,sooner or later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenelon
My choice for real rain is HH.They have some great waterproof clothing. Some are soft,quiet ,stretchy a bit and nicely pliable.
Better yet-they are truly waterproof.:thumbup:
I was aiming once for HH Imperfect suit (Alaska fishermen's favorite)but they are discontinued.
HH VOSS does a great job for me .
For stand hunting, sitting in duck blind,on an ATV, boat or motor bike-sweating is not an issue anyway;) So not much special underwear may be needed if one has none.
I just take coveralls and spray them with nano waterproofing spray.
you know you just reminded me of a product named "neverwet" might look into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
@felon and gbk
i have been using a rain jacket from the military thats basically a bib, seem like its made out of rubber and has camo pattern to it, i dont mind using that, but i do want sepeerate pants that are already waterproof instead of having to bring the pant bibs to pull over my pants int he bush when it starts to rain.
Finding true breathable and waterproof rain gear is like searching for the lost city of Atlantis! One problem that I’ve found is that many garments leak through the seams. As Fenelon mentioned, you often get soaked from the inside due to body vapours. Lol you should be able to road hunt on rainy days... just kidding.
I've found that as long as my jacket doesn't leak through the hood and the shoulder/ neck area I can handle the rain all day. Most of the time I'm already wearing waders if I'm hunting in the rain, but also wear rubberized bibs for work and add extra waterproofer to the shoulders of my jacket to work in a torrential downpour when it's necessary. I sweat no matter what I wear so I try to wear cotton underneath.
Have you ever just considered using chaps?
Wool pants with the nano waterproofing spray
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B08FD82FWN/...ing=UTF8&psc=1
I ended up grabbing a pair of these. Came in the mail the other day and I'm pretty pleased with them. I ran them under water and they just beaded right off the material. Only thing I'm a little worried about is if they do end up getting wet the inside is fleece and I doubt it will dry quick. Really comfy and warm tho. I haven't brought them out yet to warm for them. I'm thinking I might use them in the deer season possibly as a under layer.
Or maybe in the fall
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For that price you can't even buy good long johns at Marks. No real risk there.
Fleece drys pretty fast. Probably just have to turn them inside out and hang them - preferably close to the woodstove. Hang in the pm dry in the am.
the belt that comes with them is useless will be using it to strap things to my pack maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
appreciate that tip, im pretty satisfied with the purchase. they could be a tinnnny bit quieter, but they arent baggy so your leg pants dont really swipe eachother and cause noise either way, will most likley be using them in the winter for a under layer/ substitute long jons haha
Wool.
If its really pouring, wear the rubber gear.
Never had an issue with my Gore-Tex stuff not being waterproof. DWR in many of these garments requires regular washing a drying to keep it waterproof -- and eventually requires reapplication. I use Nikwax soap in the machine when washing and Nikwax TX Direct when the DWR wears off. Merino wool base layers always.
I learned a while ago that you truly do get what you pay for. Buy once, cry once.
-N.
always had good luck with rivers west gear, but this year my buddy got killer deal on sitka for m i will let you know
Sitka gortex pants are sale at Cabela's now:
https://www.cabelas.ca/product/78315...ns-delta-pants
I got my first GorTex Jacket and Pants in 1999 after graduating college (MEC branded). After 10yrs on a canoe trip the membrane failed after all the proper care and basically functioned as wet cotton for the duration of a short canoe trip. That being said the Gortex warranty is "Guaranteed to keep you dry for life". The garments where intact and I contacted Gortex Canada answered a few questions and provided some photos. I was asked to ship them (at my cost about $20) for testing to Alberta. Shortly after got an email asking to send them brand, color and size (had to be same weight material) of what I wanted them replaced with. Arctyrex branded "Gortex Pro" jacket and pants showed up in the mail. About 8yrs later with that jacket a pit zip weld failed. Same process about $20 bucks in shipping. New coat. The second set of pants are still going strong with proper care. Love the wool clothing as well depending on what I am up to. But Gortex has a great warranty on their products.
very good to know. that will prob be my next purchase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bish-Kya
I've had a similar experience with Patagonia (more hiking focused than hunting) the membrane around the neck area of my jacket failed and not only did they replace it but they sent me a model that was easily one or two price points above my original.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bish-Kya
I will give another vote for wool pants. They are good in wet or snow and keep you warm. old243