Tam warns that full vaccination does not equal immunity

Surprised?

"Canada’s chief public health officer reminded Canadians on Saturday that even those who are fully vaccinated remain susceptible to COVID-19."

“But it’s not absolute. There’s reduction in your risk of transmission, but it doesn’t necessarily eliminate your risk of transmission,” Tam said, adding that the danger dials down especially after the second dose."

https://torontosun.com/news/national/tam-warns-that-full-vaccination-does-not-equal-immunity-from-covid-19

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So, seems like we have to learn to live with it....Life one way or another will go on....

Sounds perfectly logical to me. I see no inaccuracies. What seems to be the problem?

These vaccines will give us a head start,but,like the flu,we'll need a shot every year. Some folks are luckier than most with a natural immunity medical science will never be able to explain. Others get it,but,never know it continuing on as normal while others are killed outright. This is just life,there's no guarantees except that life is never fair. We'll deal with it the same as humans have dealt with every other disease in history. One thing has become abundantly clear. Political involvement and media "spin" and sensationalism has been a disaster with the "cure worse than the kill." We need to figure out a way to prevent that.

The people of Canada should understand vaccines won't work and we will always have to wear a mask, no joke. From our Prime minister

https://youtu.be/53pNegyiFnY

This reason Trudeau makes such bold statements.

https://youtu.be/X2s0XjDHVAg

The Great Reset is no longer a conspiracy, rather a Reality.
Their not hiding it rather brag about it.
Congrats Canada, we are officially feeding the Globalist Pigs

The people of Canada need to understand they are being scammed.

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These vaccines will give us a head start,but,like the flu,we'll need a shot every year. Some folks are luckier than most with a natural immunity medical science will never be able to explain. Others get it,but,never know it continuing on as normal while others are killed outright. This is just life,there's no guarantees except that life is never fair. We'll deal with it the same as humans have dealt with every other disease in history. One thing has become abundantly clear. Political involvement and media "spin" and sensationalism has been a disaster with the "cure worse than the kill." We need to figure out a way to prevent that.

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I watched an interesting interview with a Dr. Grimes from the U.K., he explained everything you need to know about vitamin D and it's relativity to covid. I'll post a link to it when it's available on Rumble or Youtube. In a nutshell the key to a fortunate covid outcome is to avoid a cytokine storm by making sure your topped up with vitamin D to support a robust immune response.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...le%20arthritis.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33551489/#:~:text=Magnesium%20and%20vitamin%20D%20each,role %20in%20pulmonary%20epithelial%20health.

"Anthony Fauci, who has been the Director of the NIAID since 1984, told Chuck Todd of NBC News’ Meet The Press that mask wearing could become a permanent feature of fall weather, and questionably claimed that the flu was almost totally eradicated by mask wearing for COVID-19."

"Fauci has repeatedly given confusing and seemingly unscientific advice throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. Early in the pandemic, Fauci urged Americans not to wear face masks, instead suggesting that only sick people and medical professionals should wear them. Later, he began urging all Americans wear face masks, and later suggested Americans wear two face masks at once."

"Last month, Fauci was completely incapable of responding to questions from Rep. Jim Jordan, who questioned why Fauci’s mandates appear to only apply to legal U.S. citizens, and not illegal immigrants who are flocking into the country under Biden, only to be kept in extremely crowded facilities, at some points over 1,000% over capacity."

"Earlier last month, Fauci declared that it was “still not okay” for vaccinated people to eat and drink indoors, and blamed children for the spread of COVID-19. He even went as far as to declare that children must not be allowed to play together while unmasked until all children have been vaccinated."

https://nationalfile.com/fauci-it-is...ome-permanent/

The vaccines are only about 90-95 percent effective. Most other vaccines - flu aside - are 100%.
So I'm not sure what you're objecting to her statement.

covid-19 will become (maybe already has) endemic and we will need to get used to living with it.
Same as we have become used to living with flu.
Trump was more right than wrong when he dismissed covid as being "just another flu".
It's a nasty one, highly contagious and more lethal than what we were used to - but it is "just another flu".
It won't be contained or eradicated - anyone thinking that is delusional.
The plan now should be to move forwards with how to live in a world with covid-19.
- maybe yearly vaccines for variants
- protection of the vulnerable
- staying at home when you are sick

Sort of the same stuff we were doing before for the flu. Strange eh?
What is a good plan now would have been a good plan in March 2020.

What we do know now is that lockdowns are costly and inneffective. A trendy perk for the whitecollar work-force.
Masks are largely ineffective in protecting the wearer because c-19 is airborne.
Hand sanitizers are largely ineffective because c-19 is airborne.

The reason we didn't go hog-wild with lockdowns, masks and hand sanitizer when we had flue to deal with is that they are not really that effective, and they are no more effective with c-19 than they are with flu.
So once the media and politicians let the hype die down, Canada will revert back to dealing with C-19 similar to dealing with flue.

Just picked this off the news feed this morning.
So it's taken over a year - but the great minds in the health industry are finally coming around to the same conclusions that the people I know with healthcare back grounds (ER and remote healthcare nurses) were telling me a year ago.


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...ntp&li=AAggNb9

Just to put things into perspective of what is really going on here.

Covid Jab for Dummies.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7vkmn3zgs9...WfooTfGJC5nTZ4

Let’s look at other countries and see what they do. I blame tam for most of the troubles.

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Let’s look at other countries and see what they do. I blame tam for most of the troubles.

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This is a globalist agenda doctors around the world are being silenced and threatenened if they stray fom the narrative.

Canadian Physicians For Science and Truth
https://canadianphysicians.org/?fbcl...Xd4#signatures

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The vaccines are only about 90-95 percent effective. Most other vaccines - flu aside - are 100%.
So I'm not sure what you're objecting to her statement.

covid-19 will become (maybe already has) endemic and we will need to get used to living with it.
Same as we have become used to living with flu.
Trump was more right than wrong when he dismissed covid as being "just another flu".
It's a nasty one, highly contagious and more lethal than what we were used to - but it is "just another flu".
It won't be contained or eradicated - anyone thinking that is delusional.
The plan now should be to move forwards with how to live in a world with covid-19.
- maybe yearly vaccines for variants
- protection of the vulnerable
- staying at home when you are sick

Sort of the same stuff we were doing before for the flu. Strange eh?
What is a good plan now would have been a good plan in March 2020.

What we do know now is that lockdowns are costly and inneffective. A trendy perk for the whitecollar work-force.
Masks are largely ineffective in protecting the wearer because c-19 is airborne.
Hand sanitizers are largely ineffective because c-19 is airborne.

The reason we didn't go hog-wild with lockdowns, masks and hand sanitizer when we had flue to deal with is that they are not really that effective, and they are no more effective with c-19 than they are with flu.
So once the media and politicians let the hype die down, Canada will revert back to dealing with C-19 similar to dealing with flue.

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Best post in a while thank you Werner

The "vaccines" do nothing to stop transmission. You still get COVID, it's just that your body begins to fight it right away, before it has a chance to embed itself in your body ... which is why the main point is you don't get as sick, and don't die from it.

If you get COVID, there's going to be a period where you are infectious ... you cannot stop that.

The point is to vaccinate people so if they get it, they aren't really getting all that sick, and now we are into the "normal cold" scenario.

But after being vaccinated ... here's the catch ... the government SHOULD treat this like it is the normal cold, because the majority of the population will never really get really sick from it anymore ... so if these shut downs carry on ... then it's pure BS.

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The "vaccines" do nothing to stop transmission. You still get COVID, it's just that your body begins to fight it right away, before it has a chance to embed itself in your body ... which is why the main point is you don't get as sick, and don't die from it.

If you get COVID, there's going to be a period where you are infectious ... you cannot stop that.

The point is to vaccinate people so if they get it, they aren't really getting all that sick, and now we are into the "normal cold" scenario.

But after being vaccinated ... here's the catch ... the government SHOULD treat this like it is the normal cold, because the majority of the population will never really get really sick from it anymore ... so if these shut downs carry on ... then it's pure BS.

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60% of hospitalizations had some form of the vax.

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60% of hospitalizations had some form of the vax.

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As in an adverse effect from the vaccine, or they got COVID so bad that they had to go to ICU?
If it's the latter ... that is insane ... it basically means that the vaccine is not effective at all.
How do I come up with that? If let's say 50% of the ICU population was not vaccinated, and the other 50%
was vaccinated ... it means the vaccine does nothing to change the number .... you have an equal chance
of getting really sick from the virus (especially right now where roughly 50% of the Ontario population has
had at least their first shot).

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60% of hospitalizations had some form of the vax.

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Where is your evidence of this number? How long after vaccination did they end up in hospital?

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Where is your evidence of this number? How long after vaccination did they end up in hospital?

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Yeah that
But I call BS on that stat so I don’t expect any real answer

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60% of hospitalizations had some form of the vax.

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Source please ?

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Just picked this off the news feed this morning.
So it's taken over a year - but the great minds in the health industry are finally coming around to the same conclusions that the people I know with healthcare back grounds (ER and remote healthcare nurses) were telling me a year ago.


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...ntp&li=AAggNb9

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I highly suspect it will mutate several times and most likely yearly like all the other flu's do.

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Where is your evidence of this number? How long after vaccination did they end up in hospital?

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There is no public stat on that it came from whistle blower nurses, one from a hospital in Ontario and the other from B.C. I posted an article a week ago from Simcoe news about 2 long term care workers one was fully vaxxed for 3 weeks and and the other had only received 1 dose.

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Yeah that
But I call BS on that stat so I don’t expect any real answer

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Believe whatever you want you will anyway.

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Believe whatever you want you will anyway.

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I believe facts not made up stats

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I believe facts not made up stats

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Me too. Our government are not about facts
Tam speaks lies not facts. Another paid puppet that cannot be trusted in the least.

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I believe facts not made up stats

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Where's your proof of that allegation?

Everything you need to know about vitamin D at the 19 minute mark.
https://rumble.com/vgp66z-dr.-grimes...f=7ju1&mrefc=3

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Where's your proof of that allegation?

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Seeing as only 40% of Ontario is vaccinated and you stated 60% of admissions are people that are vaxxed than the implication is that having a vaccine actually increases your chances of contracting and getting hospitalized for COVID by 50% as compared to the un-vaccinated general public. If that were the case than countires like the US, Israel, and UK who are more vaxxed than we are should be overwhelmed and they are not.

If you believe your 60% number, that is your choice but taking anecdotal reports from whistle blowers as proof is dubious at best.

Vaccine, baseball stands full no masks. US

No vaccine, lockdown stay at home order. Canada

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Vaccine, baseball stands full no masks. US

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Only 35% of Texans are vaccinated. There's 40% vaccinated people in Ontario. Texas still has 2000 - 4000 cases a day. I think masks spread it more than they prevent it.

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Seeing as only 40% of Ontario is vaccinated and you stated 60% of admissions are people that are vaxxed than the implication is that having a vaccine actually increases your chances of contracting and getting hospitalized for COVID by 50% as compared to the un-vaccinated general public. If that were the case than countires like the US, Israel, and UK who are more vaxxed than we are should be overwhelmed and they are not.

If you believe your 60% number, that is your choice but taking anecdotal reports from whistle blowers as proof is dubious at best.

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They must of got their poke of frankenjuice and figured they were invincible. After all they are calling it a vaccine which it isn't. No more dubious than your government.

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No more dubious than your government.

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I never claimed anywhere that the government was believable or reliable. They are no more my government than they are yours. I just don't believe a number of 60% based on internet hearsay.

Believe what you want, the hearsay was generated from a boots on the ground worker then broadcast over the internet. The percentage of vaccinated population that received 1 dose from the U.K. is over 50% as is Israel, the U.S. at 46% and Ontario at 40% the differences are somewhat negligible add to that the fact this was after the dump of Astra Zeneca with an efficacy rate of 62% on to Canada because nobody else wanted it while the other brands are at 94%. Now take into account those countries having had more cases generating a greater natural herd immunity.

I don't conform very well too tyrannical government or law so it's not mine.

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Believe what you want, the hearsay was generated from a boots on the ground worker then broadcast over the internet. The percentage of vaccinated population that received 1 dose from the U.K. is over 50% as is Israel, the U.S. at 46% and Ontario at 40% the differences are somewhat negligible add to that the fact those countries having more cases generating a greater natural herd immunity. I don't conform very well too tyrannical government or law so it's not mine.

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One internet video by a "boots on the ground worker" is still anecdotal hearsay. A 100 similar internet videos from different sources are still anecdotal hearsay. Plenty of opposing "boots on the ground" opinions and videos that would contradict what you are saying. All anecdotal hearsay. Unless you publish the medical records i don't believe any of them. It stops becoming hearsay when someone pulls a Snowdon and actually publishes/leaks the proof.

Belief, unbelief, conformance, non-conformance are all irrelevant. You reside in Ontario than it is your government. You can hate them, disobey them, break the law, protest them etc. and at the end of the day they are still yours. The only way to change that is to move somewhere else or topple them - until than like it or not they are yours.

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One internet video by a "boots on the ground worker" is still anecdotal hearsay. A 100 similar internet videos from different sources are still anecdotal hearsay. Plenty of opposing "boots on the ground" opinions and videos that would contradict what you are saying. All anecdotal hearsay. Unless you publish the medical records i don't believe any of them.

Belief, unbelief, conformance, non-conformance are all irrelevant. You reside in Ontario than it is your government. You can hate them, disobey them, break the law, protest them etc. and at the end of the day they are still yours. The only way to change that is to move somewhere else or topple them - until than like it or not they are yours.

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Sorry I was editing my post to include the efficacey rates of the different vaccines while you were posting. As stated in my original post there were two sources, each from opposite sides of the country. Like I said believe or unbelieve whatever you want. Seeing as they do not have our best interest at heart they are not my government.

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Sorry I was editing my post to include the efficacey rates of the different vaccines while you were posting. As stated in my original post there were two sources, each from opposite sides of the country. Like I said believe or unbelieve whatever you want. Seeing as they do not have our best interest at heart they are not my government.

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Two sources, a 100 sources it is still an internet video. Any jack-arse working at any hospital with an axe to grind can string together a coherent video either for or against. Unless they go on the record with documented proof it is all anecdotal hearsay and meaningless. Until i see credible documented proof i tend not believe the narrative from either side.

Government interests are irrelevant with respect to being your/our government. It like parents that abuse their kids and don't have their kid's best interests at heart. At the end of the day those people are still the kids parents no matter what the kid wants or thinks and those people will remain the parents essentially until they die.

At the end of the day until you move or the government changes they are still yours/ours. You may not like it and somehow think otherwise but if you live in Ontario than that is your government. You break the law and get caught the government will punish you. You may not care and maybe willing to take it or even fight back but at the end of the day, short of suicide, a government agent (law enforcement or judge) will decide your fate. Regardless of what you think - you have no choice in matter - they are your government unless you move or can somehow topple them.

One thing I don't believe, is these lockdowns are for just battling covid-19.

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One internet video by a "boots on the ground worker" is still anecdotal hearsay. A 100 similar internet videos from different sources are still anecdotal hearsay. Plenty of opposing "boots on the ground" opinions and videos that would contradict what you are saying. All anecdotal hearsay. Unless you publish the medical records i don't believe any of them. It stops becoming hearsay when someone pulls a Snowdon and actually publishes/leaks the proof.

Belief, unbelief, conformance, non-conformance are all irrelevant. You reside in Ontario than it is your government. You can hate them, disobey them, break the law, protest them etc. and at the end of the day they are still yours. The only way to change that is to move somewhere else or topple them - until than like it or not they are yours.

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This is well put. But I do have to fire off a huge "like" to the Weird Al Yankovich video as well.

So, when we are 70% vaccinated, all the lock downs stop right?

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Only 35% of Texans are vaccinated. There's 40% vaccinated people in Ontario. Texas still has 2000 - 4000 cases a day. I think masks spread it more than they prevent it.

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In the news today.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...io-and-alberta

Toronto well at least from the mouth of the mayor is apparently 50 % first shots.

Still locked down. Their new goal is to juice up 65 % of torontonians.

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I don't think so.
The lockdowns are more about pushing through their agenda than battling covid, just my opinion based on word of mouth from our federal government
https://youtu.be/X2s0XjDHVAg

Canadians should educate themselves of what Freeland is bragging about.
Our own prime minister has made it crystal clear vaccines are not enough. As long as Trudeau is running our country, Canadians should be aware of our future of feeding the globalists. Its no joke.
UK has less cases than Ontario, but watch Justin spread lies and fear about UK to those that believe everything he tells them
https://youtu.be/53pNegyiFnY

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Two sources, a 100 sources it is still an internet video. Any jack-arse working at any hospital with an axe to grind can string together a coherent video either for or against. Unless they go on the record with documented proof it is all anecdotal hearsay and meaningless. Until i see credible documented proof i tend not believe the narrative from either side.

Government interests are irrelevant with respect to being your/our government. It like parents that abuse their kids and don't have their kid's best interests at heart. At the end of the day those people are still the kids parents no matter what the kid wants or thinks and those people will remain the parents essentially until they die.

At the end of the day until you move or the government changes they are still yours/ours. You may not like it and somehow think otherwise but if you live in Ontario than that is your government. You break the law and get caught the government will punish you. You may not care and maybe willing to take it or even fight back but at the end of the day, short of suicide, a government agent (law enforcement or judge) will decide your fate. Regardless of what you think - you have no choice in matter - they are your government unless you move or can somehow topple them.

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I suppose the axe they were grinding was the suppression of the medical facts. The info came from atleast two nurses or doctors and was reported by two different alternative news sources and activists that I consider credible not just "internet videos". Who Knows maybe one day Canada will lose a couple of patriotic, oath upholding front line health care workers to a Russian airport when Operation Medical Chart is exposed. In the meantime I will treat credible sources like medical advice and in time it will all come out in the wash.

https://www.mykawartha.com/news-stor...c0qFcTxF8hJraA

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...fCrkqs0cfoNUJs

As for your government, "You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying it's orders and decrees. An evil system does not deserve such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul." - Mahatma Gandhi