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Funny enough I had this question answered the opposite way by a CO by email and posted it here. It was a long time ago but might still be found with the search function.
I've also met with numerous CO's while wearing a large camo backpack over my vest without issue.
Like most scenarios, it depends on the CO you are speaking to and your attitude at the time.
This is generally a popcorn topic.
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Logically do you want to your back be a moving target for somebody ...
Some hunters take a shot even on moving bushes ...
This question should not have to be asked ...
Would you wear a
Realistic Black Bear Mascot Costume
over your full blaze orange clothing ...?
On Bear hunting trip ????
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Originally Posted by OODMag
Just buy an el cheapo one to wrap around your backpack, better than getting shot.
never had a problem wearing a backpack and slinging my shotgun over my shoulder. seems like it depends on your CO and where you are hunting.
if i was hunting public land best believe i would be putting orange tape all over my bag but i hunt private land with family so i havent had a issue at all
hm, the regulations say :
All licensed individuals hunting during the rifle seasons for Deer, Moose or Black Bear, must wear an outer garment of at least 400 square inches of hunter orange above the waist.
prety clear, 400 square inch of orange above waist. visible on all sides ... if backpack covering part of orange, it doesnt count in the 400 inch^2
now what if you are also carrying a climbing tree stand on your back ... those sure do look like I have antlers .. lol
The way I look at it is to err on the side of caution rather than hope to live to regret my decision
I know watch some YouTube videos from states see guys crawling across field holding turkey fan infront of them. OQuote:
Originally Posted by firedeptlt
Don't have to watch it on YouTube. Every season I'll come across at least one guy in full camo while upland hunting in the bush. I'll ask them about it and always get the same answer Ya I saw you (I'm dressed brighter than a pumkin) but its not legally required. My response Wish I can say the same as you look like all the other trees. Sometimes though the light does come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn
I bought an oversize blaze orange backpack on Amazon last year for $40ish ......its been great and well worth it......
I took the "can I" equation out of it by replacing my old camo back pack with an orange one when they were on sale at BP.......Daniel
The orange has to be visible from all sides. It doesn’t mention how much orange needs to be visible. One would have to be very small to have a backpack that covers your entire back, shoulders, arms etc….I don’t have that problem !!
I've talked to quite a few CO's over the years in the field and it's never been an issue. As long as we're wearing vests or jackets and caps that meet criteria,most CO's don't seem to be the least bit concerned.
What time of the year?Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
When I am upland bird hunting solo outside of a gun season for big game I sure as heck are not wearing hunter orange .
I wear orange all the time,especially,when hunting solo. The open season for Black Bear in our area starts on the first Tuesday in September and closes November 30. As such,it's never wise to look like a bear when walking in the southern woods.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I found the email and response from the MNR in 2014:
Hello,
I'm curious about blaze orange requirements when wearing a backpack. Obviously, a backpack will cover up a significant portion of the blaze orange vest. Would you consider this as having less than the required 400 sq inches of visible material? Are there other variables to consider? I suppose a 250 lb man would have more visible blaze than someone who is 150 lb. It came up in a discussion recently and would like to have some clarification.
Thanks,
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Hello,
Thank you for your inquiry. We apologize for the delay in responding to your email.
As long as you are wearing the required 400 square inches there should be no problem. You should remember however that wearing a backpack that covers a large portion of your hunter orange makes you less visible to other hunters. You may choose to purchase an orange backpack or cover your existing backpack with a piece of orange fabric or an orange vest.
We hope you have found this information helpful. If you require further assistance contact the Natural Resources Information Centre toll free at 1-800-667-1940.
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Thanx GW11-it means in plain english,it is not mandatory to show 100 % orange on the back of a hunter,but it is advisable.
Exactly. Do it as an extra precaution, but if you're wearing the required amount, you're already compliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
If you think about it, how much blaze orange is visible when you step into a pop up blind?
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X2 GW11 -so far there is no" mandatory Hunter Orange pop up Blind "rule in effect.
I have never been concerned while out hunting grouse, never been considered to be a bear either, except for when I am snoring.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
I wear orange while hunting in a group for small game but for solo hunts it is no different than turkey hunting (bear hunting is on then too) and hunting waterfowl, yes you can walk to hunt waterfowl too.
There is a risk yes, but there was a guy killed in his decoys by a guy shooting from the road at his goose decoys with a rifle from his truck so you are not going to remove all risk and I know that I am still more likely to die in my vehicle going to and from my hunting spot than hunting, with or without hunter orange.
Nope, you can also hunt in the bush with hunter orange on, or behind a fence with hunter orange, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
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Originally Posted by Fox
Any time of the season. You wear orange when you are in a group but not when your by yourself. Thing is possibly you are not by yourself in the woods. In a group at least you know for sure who is around so if orange is good than the possibility of someone else hunting should motivate you to wear orange also. Help a fellow hunter out and wear orange ,small game doesn't see colour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Always about making safer choices.
I don't wear orange to walk a dog, I don't wear orange to go for a jog, I don't wear orange to walk down the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
I see nothing different than doing any of these other things.
It is called managing risks, I do not feel as though I am in an area where there is much of a chance of there being another hunter in the area I hunt, mind you I hunt small game and there does not seem to be any other people ever out there when I am hunting.
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Originally Posted by Fox
Well if that works for you great. Like I said at least once a season I run into an upland camo hunter while upland hunting and although I consider myself a safe hunter I would feel bad if I pepper someone because they prefer to look like a tree than a pumpkin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
We always wear orange, except coyotes, turkeys and ducks
I was going to say...I'm sure Coyotes see Blaze orange...I swear I got busted once because I had a Blaze Orange Toque on..Otherwise fully camoed up behind a fence and he spotted me from over 200 yds !!Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Oh yea, they will pick you out in a heartbeat ! Even in snow camo, they pick us out….I think if anything, it’s the least amount of movement they see…Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Definitely the movement. Mrs.T got me a new orange camo parka last Christmas for hunting with the crew. Works like a charm.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
I modified a hunter orange youth vest to work as a flap on my bag and can expose it when needed. It tucks away nicely if I have to stash my bag and don't want it to be seen or if I just don't want to sit beside an orange bag. I wear my regular camo hunting gear with an orange vest and hat when required.
My coat has a built in pouch in the back and I wear a Fanny pack so no issue with orange. My experience has been that CO’s don’t move far from the truck, so I would be extremely surprised to get checked in the woods.
Watched my usual Sunday morning hunting show with folks out in Alberta hunting mulies and white tailed deer they wore camo no hunter orange at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300wsm
Requirements in Alberta are different than Ontario. used to be just a hat years ago but I believe that has changedQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
I've been stopped lots of times and had CO's that are more concerned with just having a quick friendly chat and others that have actually held up a swatch of fabric to check if your orange is the correct orange (Manitoulin island posse)
I hunt public land most of the time where it's always wise to presume there's others around. Turkey and spring Bear is on at the same time and,in the fall,small game,Wild Turkey,archery Deer and Black Bear is also all on at the same time. What I find strange is that hunter orange is only required for "licensed" Bear hunters (except when in a tree stand),but,not required for the others. I always wondered what the rationale was behind that rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
This visibility rule is all over the place in Canada,and NO orange is required in Alberta(and BC also).Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Many other provinces have a mix and match,with most interesting the full White Garment option for Saskatchewan(in the snow too....?!)
If it was up to me, all hunters should be able to opt out of the orange requirement when in a tree stand. However, hunters should wrap an orange band around the tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Hunters using ground blinds should have a conspicuous orange patch attached on all sides.
I hunted deer in Saskatchewan several times, and thought nothing about wearing white or red. I think that Ontario hunters are the only ones who think that deer are white. Yes a deer’s flag is white, however if that is what you are shooting at, maybe you should think twice at what you are doing!Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk