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Heard a rumour of over a dozen deer found dead about 2 weeks ago, then nothing else. Now hearing the number might be in triple digits. Both reports from completely different sources, 1 a non-hunter.
Anyone else with input, do not want to give a specific location at this time but am hearing it from another area about 20 kilometers away from the first site.
John
Covid?
Could you narrow it down to a wmu or county? my investigation skills really are enhanced when I can ask the right group of local yocals.
I hope it is just hear say or exaggeration
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EHD? This a serious disease in many locations in the US. Kills more deer than CWD.
I reached out to a friend. He had heard of some death in 2 locations.
https://www.ontario.ca/page/epizooti...c-disease-deer
That was his thoughts as well.
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laced crack corn. hunter was after head gear for years and was a terrible shot.
Bingo...saw this on FB this aft..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Menard
Bloodlines lost forever. Years of ethical harvesting down the drain. Such a waste of life. Breaks my heart. EHD has reached us here for the first time and its hitting them hard. The Gananoque Lake area and Wolfe Island are the only 2 I’ve heard of with this problem so far.
Pray for cold weather folks.
https://i.imgur.com/IDrimwum.jpg
If that’s what happening that’s terrible news.
Be nice to hear something from MNRF.
Sorry for my ignorance but what is EHD
See link in post #5.Quote:
Originally Posted by huntnmachine
I live around Kingston area I herd about this roomer of EHD being on Wolfe island from nurse at work her husband hunts on Wolfe island she was telling me that he had come across 5 dead deer caused by EHD so asked another buddy at work that hunts over there and roomer is 90 dead deer have been reported on the island caused by EHD and just last week have herd now Gan lake is having the same problem of EHD what fine strange is that the MNR has not put out report about this back in 2017 London Ontario area had EHD and it was all over the news and this situation seems a lot worse if the roomers are true now my buddy from work Bowed doe on the island October 1st he said the deer was acting in very strange manor his words acting very nervous twitching and constantly licking it self when I saw the photo of the deer other then looking dead too me colour of the coat was off and looked sick
Wowsers that’s not good news. A few deer hunting groups I’m in on Facebook have a lot of Americans. They have been posting pictures about finding many dead deer every time they walk their properties.
Not trying to be insensitive but deer populations in the US are insanely high.. no wonder disease is striking them and ultimately killing them off. I'm sure high population densities are helping spread various diseases. Every time I drive down to see family (dozens of times over the past few decades), I see so many roadkill deer, it's unbelievable...Quote:
Originally Posted by C.F.
Confirmed that it's EHD in the Kingston and Ganonaque areas:
http://ofah.convio.net/site/R?i=EGle...X8h9Te4qJ5ZOgw
To myself, it just strikes me as very strange that we had over 100 deer deaths in a confined area over just a few days and nothing official was said about it for over a month.
With deer season already in progress it makes you wonder that MNR warnings were not issued, at least until a non-transmittable (to humans) cause of death could be confirmed.
If it were something else disease could already have been transferred to humans.
I wonder if big money (read American) hunt camps in the area were a factor in official decisions being made?
I know I personally would have had 2nd thoughts about feeding children fresh venison harvested from the area until more info came out.
John
It'll be interesting next week when the Orange Army heads into the bush how many will find deer who may have died from EHD. It's probably more widespread than we know.
Does make you wonder what will happen, if your camp is in an area where there's EHD, will you feel safe to harvest deerm ?
I don't find this comment very helpful:
Quote:
There is no human health risk from being bitten by EHD-positive midges or from consuming meat from EHD-infected animals that appear otherwise healthy.
This EHD situation is very concerning as it has the potential to reoccur and expand. Additionally, these dead deer don’t get replaced overnight so there could be herd population implications if this worsens. EHD is nasty on the deer population!
I'm sure there was a very good idea of what was going on, but it takes time to get confirmations on these things.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjyb
I think your overthinking the issue
Hopefully the spread is minimal if it becomes to much of a problem it will definitely make the tags less available for next year.
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oodmag has a thread on this.
https://oodmag.com/deer-ehd-outbreak-confirmed/
Won’t know until reporting is done on how bad wide spread EHD is in wmu 69 and may not really know we are loaded with coyotes so bad in this wmu they would be just feeding on the deer I thought never see this in my life so sad my guess the doe tags will be cut big time for next year
One thing i do not understand-why EHD did not wipe out all the whitetail down south?
Like-all experts say-this is a disease controlled by frost and winter.Midgets die-virus dies.
There are MANY areas in the USA,have a whole lot milder climate then us. Deer flourishes there.
Am i missing something?
The attached article and video might answer your questions.https://www.northamericanwhitetail.c...tetails/383402Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
Thanx Sam,sad indeed,hope winter comes fast and hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Menard
This is all going too end up being political all about money I’ve hunted this wmu69 for 25 years and the last 15 years there has been steady drop in deer numbers nothing has been done about it doe tags have remained the same I live west of Kingston in loyalist town ship - greater napanee this was one of the best deer hunting areas in all of Ontario at one time now it’s we been calling on mnr to reduce doe tags and reduce gun hunting and bow hunting so the numbers can bounce back now we are dealing with EHD all the reports coming from hunters that hunt this area are all saying the same no ing deer but they don’t change the the tag quota 30 deer die test 2 give me brake let’s start doing some fly overs and get mnr in the bush to see the real numbers from EHD die off because that’s what we are dealing with any one is familiar with Taylor Kidd boulevard goes from county rd 4 to Collins bay rd into Kingston you will always see deer anytime of year its all private land own by bombard transportation and township I haven’t seen deer there since end of July and travel it twice a day going too work and my parents live rate there just like moose population in Ontario mnr it up this province is one the worst poorly ran wild life management provinces in Canada the tree huggers have more of say then hunters that are putting the money into wild life management