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You can't fix stupid. What was that idiot thinking? Oh,wait.......
Perhaps we will know soon enough, that this was just the way it should be..........and it is ok.
What that article omits is that this took place on the Garden River First Nations reserve. Not condoning it, just filling in a few blanks that were left out.
Well, that explains a lot !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
I was thinking the same thing I have heard similar stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
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It does doesn’t itQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
I went to rez today to get fuel thinking hmmm no deer but then I’ve never see deer near or on the rez. Lol
Unfortunately this has been going on for decades in N Ontario.
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Here's a link to the video. https://saultonline.com/2021/10/mini...IVuAX-Lo_CxDjI
Im quite certain thats not how their ancestors did it. What an absolute disgrace
It’s only tip of the iceberg and a small glimpse into how the “keepers of the earth” exercise harvest rights. Happens all over northern Ontario with regularity and witnessed it many times over my years in the north.
It’s a sad state of affairs…all the moose management objectives and controls on licensed hunters is useless if they don’t get this garbage under wraps.
Nailed it, used to see them night hunting in MB with spotlights and leave the dead deer for the crows and coyotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggamer
I live in northern bruce, and they will actually pull deer out of the bush and gut them on the side of hwy 6, they are hunting on res property, but they gut right on the side of the highway, I stopped one day and asked, 1) why is it they shoot fawns, answer so does can continue to reproduce, 2) why gut on the side of highway,, too many yotes and maybe some will get hit by car coming to guts.
insane if you ask me
No different in the Quinte area. Quite a few deer are jack lighted in PEC by the local natives and not to mention the tons of walleye that are gill netted for Commercial sale. I didn't know they had spot lights and nylon gill nets 200 years ago that's some tradition if you ask me.
And yet the gatekeepers will be keeping a close eye on the licensed hunters this coming week. Making sure that there are no more than 3 shell capacity in a shotgun designed for 8, that the firearm is encased exactly between 1/2 hour after sunset and 1/2 hour before sunrise, that the cheap printed piece of paper is properly affixed to the deer, that the ball cap is fully blaze orange with no camo on it and so on and so on........
Rules for me and rules for thee.
That is the difference between a sovereign nation and slaves to a corporation.
While I think that it’s ridiculous what goes on out there in the name of “harvesting” on occasion, and this being a blatant example of wrongdoing by shooting moose from a highway, no matter where it is. Lets not kid ourselves fellas, if the majority of us wanted to poach or jacklight, or not tag animals and harvest extra, the fact is we could do it and 90 percent of us would get away with it. Enforcement is inadequate in Ontario and the only thing keeping us honest is the individual ethics of the hunter, and a very little bit of it is the CO’s as they don’t have the resources to police every hunter. My last field check other than ice fishing was probably 8 years ago. We’ve never been checked dragging an animal out, and the only time we’ve had tags checked was when they where hanging on a meat pole in a long established hunt camp that of course the CO’s where aware of. In reality, you are your own conservation officer. The Ontario CO’s could in no manner police us all, they do not have the resources to do so.
Well said!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by biggamer
FN or not there are some safety concerns that need to be addressed by the courts! What a can of worms!
You are 100 % right- safety is #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanO
Hovewer,another shooting the exact same way resulted in a dead man few years back......and what happened as a result of that shooting....?
Did you know that, years ago, when the MNR was exploring whether to change the law with respect to loaded firearms and discharging from road allowances that many hunters were against it?
So I live and hunt in WMU 65, which is shotgun only. My understanding is that we are shotgun only because of the number of people hunting and the open areas so rifles generally travel farther. Apparently if your FN you can hunt with a rifle as safety is not affected.
Miles of old logging roads, many grown in enough only atv width is what many moose hunters use in the north.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Menard
Most of the old logging roads we hunted never seen vehicals for years. The only use of vehicals during our hunting only used from retrieval of an already downed moose or dropping off hunters to different areas. Big difference driving down a hwy and shooting big game imo.
The keepers of the land are at times a disgrace to hunting
I cam tell you there is more deer on the rez near Brantford them anywhere in Ontario.Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn
I run dogs with some guys dowm there and have walked a ton of that land.
Lol the first moose that I shot (37 years ago) was from the shoulder of Highway 17. It happens all the time in northern Ontario even today. In southern Ontario I understand that you can’t do it, but you can in the North (except in Kenora and Rainy River). As long as your off the travelled portion of the road and shooting safely towards the woods (Crown land). I don’t see what the fuss is about:
I agree...people tend take things out of context....and then get 'offended' when applying our value system to an incident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Menard
Not saying the North is behind the times, but it's still a place where the laws are a little less rigid to accommodate the Northern culture. People, up there, are a little more laid back and less judgemental. ..just ask Bushmoose :)
Interesting- I somehow thought that 8 m is the mandatory distance from the TRAVELED portion of any road ,where loaded firearm can not be had in hands(once was even checked for it by a CO-around Mount Forest).He was happy,i was too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Menard
Is there a different rule up north?Would be good to know.
Where is starts then?
Thank You Sam.
Check out s.63 of Reg 665Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/980665#BK11
The area description where the regulations apply are on Schedule 2 of Regulation 663
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/regulation/980663#BK4
For the record, although I shot my first moose from the shoulder of the road, I’ve grown as a hunter and prefer to hunt away from roads and vehicles.