I'm sure the snowflakes are having a meltdown. Doug Ford is doing the right thing and scrapping vaccine mandates for hospital workers...Cheers....lmao
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I'm sure the snowflakes are having a meltdown. Doug Ford is doing the right thing and scrapping vaccine mandates for hospital workers...Cheers....lmao
Check the fine print. Ford is not "scrapping vaccine mandates for hospital workers." He is not imposing a province-wide requirement and is, for the moment, leaving the decision to local hospitals and health units. Many hospitals already have them in place and can retain them if they choose.
Ford finally realized he fighting a loosing battle....lmao:tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
How I see it he's choosing the lesser of two evils. unvax is only slightly better than understaffed. Hence where facilities can function without them so be it. In more underserviced areas kind of forced to accept them until a better option avails itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
It sounds like Que backed down too...Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Shortsighted policy...in the category of 'Cutting off your nose to spit your face' HaHa..
Nuremberg Code.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
You see it that way all you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
Others see as the right thing to do....cheers
Probably because Quebec is standing strong . 14,000 health care workers in Quebec have yet to receive a first dose.
Stay strong Quebec
https://globalnews.ca/news/8346947/q...e-workers/amp/
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With students no longer needing vax, teachers will not be vaxxed.
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Who cares? What snowflakes are you even dreaming up? Really? Do you see mass protests anywhere?Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
You think there's this big band of people that are upset by this.
WHO CARES??
Stop making this a them against you scenario ... talk about dividing people ...
The government doesn't need the political liability with vax mandates for workers. Employer's obligations to ensure safe work places under the OHSA already cover that as we're seeing in the private sector all over the province.
No worries, you like to refer to others as anti-vaxxers, I don't cry about, just like to return the favor. See how that works....who cares...Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
The only divide has been created by trying to force people into medical experiments
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Mass protests MSM won't report..cheers
What snow flakes is he referring to. I'll tell you who they are they are all these self-righteous liberals that hang off of every word justlied tells them. I myself am double vaxxed and do I care if the person next to me is unvaxxed not in the least as we both made our own choices. So yes who cares if someone is unvaxxed if you are vaxxed as there is nothing to worry about. If the vaxxed are still worried about the unvaxxed go live under a rock while the rest of us Carry on with life.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Agreed ... this generalization that all vaxxed are sheep and snowflakes is just so stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
CARRY ON WITH LIFE ... nothing to see here. 100%
Almost as bad as..Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
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Originally Posted by MarkB
I think people should have a choice to take vaccines!Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
You think people who are against the vaccine shouldn't be called anti-vaxxers?? What?
OK, what are they then?? What is the politically correct term, lol. (and here we are calling
vaxxers snowflakes, lol).
^^^ READ THIS ^^^^^
Mike, lol ... you are really grabbing at thin air. Why you guys acting like snowflakes all of a sudden??Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Tell me what is unfactual that there are lots of anti-vaxxers that do not eat healthy food, smoke and/or drink?
1) IMO the term is dishonest, and has connotations of a backwards hillbilly who's never heard of SCIENCE (the new secular religion). That's how it is used.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
It's like calling someone racist for pointing out statistics on government handouts worsening certain problems.
"What, you're skeptical of reckless spending? Haha you must hate minorities!"
Or like calling any Trump supporter a Nazi. Same thing. There is a smug and condescending note to those who use the anti-vaxxer phrase. The uppity Leaside liberals who think their *&^$ doesn't stink. Same with the anti-masker phrase.
Many people who are skeptical of these dangerous experimental jabs have received other vaccinations. So it's not an accurate title. It's simply a way of lumping anyone who disagrees with you together and demonizing your political/ideological opponents so that you can just dispense with them without actually engaging their arguments. What's the saying, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
2) I could care less what people call me. I don't want to police anyone's speech.
Both 1 & 2 can be true simultaneously.
The term "anti-vaxxer" predates COVID has been frequently used to describe people who do not accept vaccines nor allow their children to be vaccinated. It is an accurate and appropriate term to describe people who refuse to take the COVID vaccinations as are "anti-lockdown" and "anti-mask" for people who oppose those public health measures.
And Factually...there is a whole whack of vaccinated people that fill the same description..so why are you continuing to associate that behavior to only the anti-vaxxers ??Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
That's very true...like Hillary calling Trump supporters deplorables...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
There are a handful on here that have grouped anyone that questions what's going on as anti-vaxxers...that don't eat well, smoke and drink HaHa..
The origin of the term is not in question. The context of its usage is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
It lumps the casual skeptic (who may have already received a negative reaction from a 1st dose) in with the more hardcore "no vaccinations ever for any reason" crowd. So that would automatically be an incorrect and dishonest framing.
Why are pro-abortion folks heroically referred to as pro-choice? Not anti-baby or anti-life.
Anti-vax is synonymous with anti-science as I've outlined above. And in our modern secular culture being anti-science is just about the worst thing someone can be. So it's a way to demonize a large group of very different people (including many prominent scientists & doctors), who might only happen to share one thing in common: questioning an ineffective, dangerous, experimental gene therapy that's being forced on them.
Those opposed to lockdowns, masks and forced experimental jabs could be referred to as:
- pro-choice
- pro common sense
- freedom lovers
- defenders of liberty
- exposers of tyranny
- critical thinkers
- brave patriots
- alpha males with healthy testosterone levels
etc.
As mentioned I don’t think anyone really cares about the term, but we shouldn’t be disingenuous or naīve regarding its usage.
Those who oppose government intervention in a woman's right to make her own choices regarding her reproductive system are not "anti-life" or "anti-baby" because a fetus doesn't qualify as either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
Anti-vaxxers meanwhile are anti-science pure and simple. It is possible a handful might have legitimate reasons to not take the shots however the opposition to the vaccine is being dominated by anti-vaxx zealots posting nonsense from crackpot websites and referring to the billions of people who have taken the shots as "sheep."
While they may imagine themselves to be "brave patriots" and "alpha males" they are in reality small-minded reactionaries, misanthropes and conspiracy theory kooks. If they weren't unspooling over COVID vaccines they'd be haranguing about 5G, fluoride in the water, George Soros and the NWO.
Anti science?Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Like the science that says kids are at a rare risk of needing medical attention?
Theņ say that it shouldn't be a reason not to vaccinate the kids with an emergency use only vaccine?
Clearly it's not an emergency.
Like the hundreds of studies peer reviewed about early treatments keeping people out of the hospital?
What about the one push narrative that only a vaccine will get us out of this ?
Or the evidence of natural immunity that is being ignored
What science are they following. ?
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Thanks for showing your hand, and completely nuking yourself out of any semblance of rationality or morality whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
No reproduction is occurring at the time of an abortion (it already occurred during the sexual act) so that's another dishonest framing of the discussion.
So in your view a fetus is not a life?
"Anti-vaxxers meanwhile are anti-science pure and simple. It is possible a handful might have legitimate reasons to not take the shots however the opposition to the vaccine is being dominated by anti-vaxx zealots posting nonsense from crackpot websites and referring to the billions of people who have taken the shots as "sheep." -- I would disagree. You are just repeating and reinforcing my previous claims...
"While they may imagine themselves to be "brave patriots" and "alpha males" they are in reality small-minded reactionaries, misanthropes and conspiracy theory kooks. If they weren't unspooling over COVID vaccines they'd be haranguing about 5G, fluoride in the water, George Soros and the NWO." -- You are just repeating and reinforcing my previous claims...
I like real science when it comes to medications. So far the political science and MSM on medications is a complete failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
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Real proven safe and effective science I can agree with
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From a common sense thinker who used ivermectin to treat covid
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1. Honestly, when I say anti-vaxxer ... I truly don't mean it in a negative way ... it is a simple term to explain whether someone is against taking the vaccine or not ... so, really, I'm a bit surprised people are taking that term so personally ... I mean "anti" means "opposed to" or "against" ... and I have no idea why people who are against the vaccine take issue with that ... it is no where near calling someone a Nazi. I have family that are anti-vaxxers ... again, all that is, is a term to quickly designate a person's opinion on that subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwhacker
2. That's how I thought people should receive that ... especially as I'm not trying to insult anyone with it. And honestly, because I'm confused why some guys are being so sensitive with that word ... I'm like ... and those guys are calling other people snowflakes??? Sounds hypocritical to me (not talking about you by the way).
Mike ... and factually, I stated that I am vaccinated and also eat horrible grocery food due to convenience.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
So, un-factually (do you not read, or are you lying?) you state I am exclusively saying this has to do with anti-vaxxers.
WRONG MIKE ... READ my stuff.
And by the way ... here's the point, because you are wildly missing it ... man I have to start drawing pictures for you!
Anti-vaxxers are concerned about injecting something in their body because it may "poison" them ... fair enough.
There's a subset of anti-vaxxers that are eating poorly, smoking, drinking ... and all that will kill them way before the jab!
That's the idiocracy in that position.
Let's take the same scenario with a vaxxer.
Vaxxer takes the vaccine, either not concerned or less concerned.
They may also eat poorly, smoke, drink ... but they aren't the ones singling out a vaccine as if it's the only thing in the world
that is killing them.
The only hypocritical scenario is an anti-vaxxer that smokes, drinks and eats poorly!
I'm sure you stopped reading half way ... so I'll probably have to repeat this over and over and over and over and over, like usual.
Yes, you're the one that has done that grouping Mike, not me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
You just don't read my posts, cut and paste things ... just to keep that argument going.
Hope it makes you feel better ... not sure how it makes you feel smarter ... especially when
I point out how many times you've missed key things I say ...
It's a joke actually.
The problem is, you only look at the data that suits your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
If data shows otherwise, it's a lie, made up by MSM.
That's where the problem is.
You're data is as much a lie as any news data ... you just believe your sources.
Your right ....just more of your drivel trying to explain yourself, when we all know what you meant in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Repeating it over and over to try and clarify what you think of anti-vaxxers, is not required. You've painted yourself into that box sufficiently, we know where you stand.
More fake news for ya...lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
https://thetruedefender.com/canadian...ated-patients/
https://www.thecountersignal.com/new...vid-propaganda
https://thenationaltelegraph.com/reg...u-bed-capacity
Fake newsflash..Fully vaccinated doesn't exist....
https://youtu.be/MU2KcwQGK5Y
Who do you consider fully vaccinated when the vaccine protection is waning 50 days after getting it?.
Short term protection is what it's giving.
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I am also for unity.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
"The snowflakes." I'm exceedingly tired of this divisive jargon. Why start a thread out like this to begin with? These are the threads that get closed, though I don't hate how it righted itself again. We should all be paying attention to language used as rationalizations, especially in the media.
The is what unity looks like, mass protest against vaccine passports/mandates. If it wasn't for those who stand up and speak out against crimes your freedoms would have been gone long ago.
The divide is created only by our government and MSM attempting to justify crimes against humanity...Cheers
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