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This is really funny - https://www.foxnews.com/us/universit...-competition-- I think all guys should claim they are girls and enter the girls sports and everywhere else girls are - this would then make some stupid people realize how stupid this whole transgender thing is - society has gone nuts - we need hard times to get the folk's feet back on the ground - if they have to worry where their next meal is coming from then they won't have time for this crap
Agree.
The sign of a crumbling civilization, not of ‘progress’
So wouldn't that just make them lying cheats? So much for honesty and integrity. Is that the America that you want?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
He wants an American well before all people were considered equal.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
A longing for a time round about the civil war. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Wrong - I want a country that spends its time and resources on things that are important and not on stupid things - we have all kinds of problems that need fixing - because some kid thinks it is a guy in a women's body society goes bonkers and start adjusting everything to the detriment of the majority to make a few feel better - nothing good comes from this type of reaction - you are born either male or female - that's it - you act and live accordingly - no room for all these off shoots - if your different you learn to conform to society - you don't change society - no wonder everything is collapsing and so many kids are all screwed up - some need a good old fashion swift kick in the back side
Well said Joe and very true!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Let them set up a transgender Olympics.
If that is all you can concentrate your mind on with all the problems faced by present day America you in an altered universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Exactly. Just do your own thing, instead of hijacking your way into every nook & cranny of existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn
Same with remaking iconic film characters as *insert latest woke champion/victim du jour* — Star Wars, Superman, James Bond, being on the cover of a magazine as ‘woman of the year’ even though you’re a man, etc.
Aren’t you supposed to be different and creative? Enjoy the fringe, have fun, be non-conformist. Why do you want to be boring?
No, what you do is find things that are not white and christian and you attack it, you claim that it is just this or just that but you don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
What happens if someone comes out as gay? Gay is wrong to you right.
What happens if your daughter wants to be with a black man? You ok with that?
What if your grandchild was trans, would you tell them to conform, sorry, ya, you probably would.
we had an older guy at the gym, before all this pandemic stuff.
he would identify himself as Genderfluid ... meaning he is flexible with gender.
he would come in daily around 630 PM, busiest time, and go sit in women shower area naked.. lol
I cant remember how they got rid of him, but was super funny ...
Yes the switch Olympics lol.
Here is my take some can make it happen others are mixed up in emotional thoughts and could be possible be used as a cry for help.
Some pull it off and try and make the changes put in the efforts and make it happen. Others don't and let themselves go dressed as a girl with a face full of hair.
I know a few who have pulled it off amazingly but then there are others who are just confused and do not put in what they are trying to achieve.
It's the times we are in do I respect it? the choice is theirs but don't expect me to call you Sally when you still look like Joe. People have the choice to do what they want should we reshape society around it not yet nope.
But in the end we must respect the decision they make. I know of half dozen like I said some can pull it off others can't.
Just my take on it as I personally know many making the move
Ps when they did go from women to man they got the man jobs lol. It's only fair you are a man now buck up and carry that couch in lol.
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Well Fox since you asked - If someone is gay it is unfortunate but having sexual relations with someone your own sex I consider it wrong - and I make no bones about it - why - because the Christian faith says so - if my daughter wants to be with a black man I would be reluctant to support it because differences in race, religion, education .etc are factors that will likely make marriage more difficult - why would my daughter want to be with someone of a different race - there are enough guys around that are of her same race - if a grandchild shows tendency to be different I would get help and do everything to discourage this tendency - if it was a boy I would make sure that he was involved in manly things and grew up with strong men with character - the last thing I would do is encourage him to be a sissy
As long as we are on the subject - I believe that all people should be treated with dignity no matter what the color of their skin is - when asked which of the commandments was most important Jesus said to love God with all your heart and soul and to love your neighbor as yourself - I try to live that way - but this doesn't mean that what a person does is always moral and correct and one should agree or tolerate everything -when something is wrong it should be pointed out - we just can't lay back and accept everything that people do for the sake of being a nice guy -
What is happening society is expected to tolerate everything and accommodate everyone who wants to be different to the detriment of society as a whole - I have been around awhile and have seen the gradual decay of the western world because of the lack of people with good moral character - yes I have my ideas as to what is right or wrong and I am not ashamed to admit it - hope that answers your questions
The good news in Canada is that devout Christians who think gays are "sissies," are horrified at the prospect of their daughter marrying a black man and get their jollies making fun of transgendered are a rapidly shrinking minority. What bible bigots call "decay" is what most of modern civilization calls progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Pretty much sums up my feelings as well, when you see the Evangelical So Called Christian's lining up en masse to support THE DONALD we can clearly see a complete disconnect to the teaching's in the Bible. Supporting a person who is a liar, full of pride with a deceitful tongue and has hate in his heart towards others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Its interesting that a free thinking American would still hold himself chained to the ultimate form of societal control and conformation.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
It's more interesting that many enlightened progressives don't appreciate the irony of essentially trading one God for another while thinking they are so clever. Like my man G.K. Chesterton says, "The special mark of the modern world is not that it is skeptical; but that it is dogmatic without knowing it."Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
Many are brainwashed by the ruthless social engineering of the 60's -- free love without consequence (explosion of std's & abortions), pornography, endless consumption of disposable goods, the erosion of Christian social mores, Marxist revolutionary sentiment in academia and popular culture, etc. We see the affects today within the wasteland of moral relativism, where the only acceptable decree is "if it feels good, do it!". That's not liberty, that's licentiousness...which is actually a form of slavery, not freedom. It's gluttony, not prudence. A vice, not a virtue.
As St. Augustine said: "Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but what is worse, as many masters as he has vices.
"By their fruits you shall know them" -- Matthew 7:15-20
Look at Freud. Back in the 60's to be a Freudian was to be on the cutting edge of the left wing avant-garde in America. When you look a little closer at the man and his life you realize he was a complete degenerate and a fraud who rationalized his incestuous appetites by projecting them on -- and encouraging them in -- other people...hence the classic Freudian line of men wanting to sleep with their mothers. We traded confession for 'psychoanalysis', prayer for meditation, and have ended up with some sort of bland, hollow pseudo-Buddhist neo-spirituality. Anxiety and depression are through the roof in many young people, even though we're so kind and tolerant now. Perhaps it's the so called progressives who fell victim to the ultimate form of societal control, because they are neither free nor thinking.
Let's face it we will never agree on many issues because - I believe that God created man and the universe that surrounds us - you think that every thing around you came about by accident and you evolved from a ape - let's leave it there because attempting to persuade anyone is a waste of time - Merry Christmas
Hear, Hear!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
While this topic is quite controversial, it shows yet again the true face of the "good" progressive, open minded and open hearted .
They are SOOOO tolerant in their mind-speech and writing, that they DEMAND tolerance from EVERYONE, and frown on, ridicule, stomp on-,etc , on anyone who does not talk or write the way the SOOO tolerants do.:joker::(:joker::D
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No tolerance need be extended to bigots who believe gays are "sissies," would be mortified if their daughter married outside her race and find the transgendered a source of amusement and refers to them as "off-shoots." Archie Bunker was funny 50 years ago. Not so much today.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
You can a free thinker and rebel as long as free think the same way and rebel against the cause defined by.... [emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
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Wow- did not take too long to prove me right-did it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
So-let's say:
Mr B says : certain group of people are "sissies"in his mind,and he talks with no tolerance towards them!
That word makes Mr A say: Mr B is bigot............BAAAD thing being bigot,no tolerance extended towards bigots.
So-what on the Earth makes Mr A and Mr B being different????
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Mr. A has made an accurate assessment of Mr. B. The difference is Mr. B. has ascribed derogatory characteristics to an entire group while Mr. A. has reached a conclusion about a specific individual based on their actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
réponse fantastiqueQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
mauvaise réponse
The comparison still stands-there is ZERO difference between Mr. A and Mr. B-they both show same attitude.
They both think-they are right.
They both think they can tell on others.
They both display great level of intolerance.
Mr B thinks he can judge others
Mr A thinks,he can judge Mr B ,for Mr B judging others
différence zéro
A picture is worth a thousand words, as the saying goes. Here's a few that sum up the progressive position on this issue (a position which they can't even really define, because to do so would draw an actual border around something...and that is not permitted in leftist orthodoxy).
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There is a great difference between broadly passing judgement on group and reaching a specific conclusion about an individual.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
No...as an example....you pass judgment all the time on here about individual anti-vaxxers and anti-vaxxers in general...You're a prime example of a sanctimonious attitude against anyone and any group that doesn't agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
You are right here-in ONLY ONE thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
If we analyze the cause (who started)it is clear , Mr B started the Lack of Tolerance Olympics.
THAT is the only difference between Mr A. and Mr B.
Now,if the "reaching conclusion" part would be low keyed, the wording perhaps chosen to keep two way communication open(chance to turn the "bigot" opinion around)sounding not as a judgement, then maybe-just maybe,the "unasked and unwanted"opinion would be seen as positive attempt to make impact.
Othervise:
Both Mr B and Mr A-excercised their right for free speech.
Both Mr B and Mr A showed zero tolerance towards their target .
Both Mr A and Mr B are in positon where their input is seen as "talking down from a morale high horse".
One more thing ,as opinion:
There is a difference between one making "legally allowed "statement about a group-until one does not generate actions/major hatred/create any kind of upheaval.
The person exercises his/her right to a freedom of speech.
At the other hand-jumping on an individual ,because he/she legally exercised his/her legal right to state an opinion-not sure how to qualify that?
Morale superiority urge? Righteousness-my way is a right way........ anyone else is wrong .
At the end-if one would be PERSONALLY attacked by the next person-go at it,defend yourslef !
Otherwise, stating opinion in a clear,calm and collected way-maintaining integrity of the communication ,is the way of the tolerant.
And,perhaps,excercising this tolerant communication on few and far between ocassions,to avoid presenting opinions as political mantra.
There's a difference. My disdain for anti-vaxxers is not based on who they are, what colour their skin is, their sexual orientation, etc. but what they do or don't do.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
But anti-vaxxers are only exercising their rights and thru freedom of expression protesting against the loss of those freedoms...Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Your disdain is your problem,...
Like I have said before: "I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It"
note: MOD (FFF))..this is on topic of 'Freedom of Expression'...just an example no need to move it to the Covid forum. :)
What does it matter what a person does vaccinated or not .Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
The person vaccinated is protected if you are protected then why does it matter.
Again is it a case of your vaccination won't work if I'm not vaccinated?
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Since you brought it up thinking this whole thread should go as per ruleQuote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
2. Controversial, religious or political threads deemed inappropriate or needlessly provocative will be removed without warning.
Will kick it upstairs and let admin decide.
For the moment will close thread until decided upon.
closed for now
As gbk says, "stating opinion in a clear, calm and collected way-maintaining integrity of the communication."
This thread would have been closed anyway because it's deliberately non-inclusive and controversial, but I am impressed how you've all conducted yourselves within it. That Fox News link has a broken 404 and I encourage everyone to seek more reliable sources of media referencing.