Sounds like it is AP incendiary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBzMzesFjUY
This and other recalls.
https://www.cabelas.ca/pages/product-notices
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Sounds like it is AP incendiary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBzMzesFjUY
This and other recalls.
https://www.cabelas.ca/pages/product-notices
Ya......like people will be lining up to return it - LOL
It would be idiotic to not return it for all the reasons Ian Runkle specified and if the gov't decided to track down the missing boxes Cabelas has records on who bought them and if the govt/police did decide to be real nasty, I bet it would be tempting to some, they can pull Cabelas license to sell ammo. Not returning them and knowing there was a recall and they are AP incendiary is just plain asking for trouble at best and off the scale idiotic.Quote:
Originally Posted by 410001661
Charges for illegal ammo, Cabelas loosing their ammo license.... imagine the fun the CBC could have with it,"Gun owners arrested with hundreds of rounds of military grade armour piercing incendiary ammo" ... a good excuse to have a new OIC with the SKS on it or a ban like idiotic 25 and 32 cal handgun laws.
Your key comment was "Not returning them and knowing there was a recall"
Would they not have to prove you were (i) aware of the ammo recall, and (ii) that you still have the ammo in question? Say I was unaware of it and took it up north and burned through 1/2 the crate at a gravel pit? I'd say they were barking up the wrong tree going after someone that legally purchased ammo in a commercial store & then used it. Would the blame not lie squarely on the back of the retailer and his supply chain?
While you are sitting in jail and waiting your court date, how will you prove you didn't know.... you would be in possession of illegal ammunition and the responsibility would be on the owner. Laws change too, look at the ATT, and the OIC and the fact there are over 325 "variants" that have been classified as banned too that weren't even on that original list. Many bought lead shot for hunting ducks, I still have 2 boxes of my Dad's, if I took them hunting what would happen. Owning the ammo, owning the firearm, owning the car... the owner is responsible and for what the lawyer would cost a new IWI X95 and 2 or three cases of ammo would be a savings if caught alone and any penalties added on top that!Quote:
Originally Posted by 410001661
So how many people on here actually knew of this recall? I didn't never seen it on Cabelas website and I have never received any mail concerning it.
I wish I would have had some of that recall. Never get to have any fun chit woulda never seen inside if the store again just saying
Now you are starting to sound like Fox! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
The longer they wait the more likelihood that this ammo will be shot because that it why people purchased it to begin with. What has been done to advise the customers of the recall - I'd have to say squat. Nothing posted in the stores, none of the customers have been notified by the store that there was a recall of the ammo.
I very much doubt one would be jailed for legally purchasing and using ammo - completely unaware of the recall. But if I was jailed I really like my chances of a $$ when I lawyer up because there was no reasonable means to notify me of the recall.
It is on their product notices page with a few other items and since they have records of who bought the cases I doubt anyone but the purchaser would get the notice. They might not if you got the legal or the illegal ammo but they would know you bought the ammo for sure and at some point someone recognized it for what it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
One person with the illegal ammo causing an issue or even just someone caught with it (and the police recognizing it from a bulletin or something) could trigger some eager beaver and a friendly judge to go on a records search at Cabelas and that's a "lotto win" (referring to the odds) it would be so easy to avoid and depending on their belligerence as one of the larger ammo sellers in Canada might make their license a target too. Like I said, a person knowing it wasn't legal won't stop charges, lawyers etc. and maybe some media attention if they want to spin it that much, especially as an excuse with the OIC or should I say adding the SKS to a new OIC.
So, going by the law sounds like me, crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 410001661
What you are saying is exactly the same as claiming that you did not know that the M14 was banned or the AR-15 and using them at the range or for hunting.
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
Atta boy.......I was waiting for you to chime in - look at you go!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Now that is the Fox I remember..........making up false information to prove you are somehow more informed or are morally superior to other members. My case in point - please advise the post where I said I did not know about the M14 being banned or AR's being banned and that I used them at a gun range or hunting for that matter!!??? Last time I checked, even before the ban, one could not hunt with an AR as these firearms are classified as restricted. I know full well as I have a couple of them in my possession - how many do you have?.
One could not hunt with an AR-15 but they could with many that looked and felt like an AR-15, that also ended up on the banned list.Quote:
Originally Posted by 410001661
I have nothing luckily that was banned, but I shot a number of them as restricted at the range and have multiple friends with many thousands of dollars sitting locked up in their cabinets at the moments.
The M14 was a non-restricted firearm before the ban, if you claimed that you did not know it was banned, even with posts, medial outlets, etc, you could still be arrested for using it, no matter if you claimed "you did not know".
......and that is why I do not know anyone willing to go through the buy back program. If it comes to a mandatory buy back program I expect there is going to be lots of "oh that old gun........ya I sold that years ago" on the formerly non restricted firearms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I'am sorry John, I told Billy and he is coming with Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse as predicted by Saint John. Oh yeh we are onto you and bringing along a master electrician to de volt those door knobs and safe door.LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by 410001661
Sounds like one of billys stories never does tell the truthQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Did Billy lie to you, I am sure he delivered exactly what he said he would.Quote:
Originally Posted by js4fn
Hence the registry and now the almost registry they have implemented to record new purchases and track your subsequent firearm exchanges.Quote:
Originally Posted by 410001661
.... if you start counting you may run out of digits before you run out of lies, a few here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Lying to the CCFR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0WGbTULugc
10 here alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zvu9CD4WR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxtKHey3f8Y
He lied about the types of firearms, so he broke that promise too ... lies are what it takes to make LIbErals!
https://cssa-cila.org/billblairlied/[I]
Public Safety Minister Bill Blair lied when he told Canadians his gun ban via Order in Council would not prohibit shotguns.
The RCMP’s Firearm Reference Table (FRT) now lists approximately 150 makes and model of bolt-action, pump action and semi-automatic shotguns as Prohibited firearms through Part 87 of the Minister’s OIC gun ban.
87 The firearms of the designs commonly known as the M16, AR-10 and AR-15 rifles and the M4 carbine, and any variants or modified versions of them…
The list of shotguns reclassified by the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program as Prohibited Firearms in the past 24 hours are:
Adler B210 Bolt-Action Shotgun[ii]
AlphaArms 15SA Semi-Automatic Shotgun[iii]
Axor MF-1 Semi-Automatic Shotgun[iv]
Canuck Havoc Pump-Action Shotgun[v]
Derya Arms VR90 Semi-Automatic Shotgun[vi]
Eternal FX12 Semi-Automatic Shotgun[vii]
(many more guns being added as this is written, including the Canadian made Maccabee Defence rifles)
It’s crystal clear. Minister Bill Blair lied to Canadians about banning shotguns.
lies
https://christopherdiarmani.com/1589...tition-e-2341/
Lies, debunking idiots on hunting and a good looking recipe! :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6zttcvXGs
Liberal spending lies that would actually help make Canada safer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHpNTWFtn6M
Considering 99% of hunters would not be aware of this as it was not really publicized I find it difficult to believe how a judge could find you guilty. Unless the government emailed every PAL holder I doubt it would stand in court very long.
99% of hunters do not care, as they still have in their possession all the guns they ever started out with, Minister Blair must have done his homework and there is very little hue and cry from the vast majority of hunters in Canada. We will all have the NRA types on here funded by vested interests beating the drum but any hunter I know these laws do not affect them.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Gilroy I know guy's in their 80's that don't even know the FAC was replaced with the PAL and still hunt the CO's don't even question them nor do the RCMP in NS and NB.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
I have no problem with that, although today at least in Ontario your probably going to get asked for that PAL if your out and about.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I have only ever been asked for my PAL once by the Ottawa Police. I can tell you I doubt if he has ever seen one before. I realized after giving it to him that it was expired by 1 year the good one was underneath it.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Honestly, ask yourself how many times have you been asked for anything in Ontario?Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
I have been hunting for 22 years now and I have been checked by the Ministry once, been fishing all my life and never been checked fishing, not even a road side stop coming back from the north.
Not being checked is a matter of luck ,and perhaps hunting in less frequent areas.
In a course of 25 years i have been checked 2 x roadside MNRF Moose hunter check while driving home (both at Sault St Marie)everyone looking like a hunter was pulled over ,and checked from top to bottom.
Guns pulled-chambers checked-the whole package.
2 x while deer hunting coming out from the bush,and 2 x just waking alongside main road(going to my spot)The main road was NOT 401 ranked though...........
2x up in moose hunting -straight in the camp/or just around the camp-plus once coming out from the clear-cut.
Once driving out from the bush ,on moose hunt-was stopped on asphalt ,ways away from hunting roads-road side check.
Maybe more-just can not remember.
Lack of the draw.
All is good as long as all is good -and we had no issues.
I have been checked at least 5 separate times, several times on roadside check's in Northern Ontario, once by the OPP when the registry was in full swing and at least 3 times at the camp. Even had a CO walk right into the camp from the road. All in order all times. I am in wmu 60Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
WHICH HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF HUNTERS SO ITS A TARGET RICH ENVIROMENT.
Actually this summer fishing in Espanola I don't really remember the CO asking for my Outdoors card.
I showed him the one fish I had and we chatted a bit. Didn't ask for my boating card either.
Under careful consideration I do feel it would be better NOT to tell anyone the previous non-restricted firearms were sold or transferred to another PAL holder. You would be much better just saying it broke years ago and you cut it up and threw it away.
Less paperwork!
You all get email from your ranges today . How’s tannerite type substance get into these rounds. Hollow point filled ?
I think I have been asked for my PAL/validation/game seal once when we were gun hunting during the dark days of the gun registry. I get been asked for my fishing license and boat license a couple of times a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
The Chief Firearms Office has been informed that there has been a recall on ammunition Chinese 7.62X39 surplus CH 762 39-1500.
The post Dangerous ammo recalled appeared first on Ontario OUT of DOORS.
More...
... only almost a month after the original post.Quote:
Originally Posted by OODMag
https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...=1#post1182527
I'd cut 'em some slack the article says notices was issued begin of Dec, monthly publication may be the answer Meghan from Admin might be able to clarifyQuote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
Again 99% will never know about this recall unless the RCMP sent everyone an email.
......and 99% will not care about the recallQuote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite