The Pandemic: How society has been brain washed.

For those on here that have been able to distant themselves from the fear-mongering that has gone on during this pandemic and wondered WTF has been going on, I found this youtube video done by Dr. Malone that speaks out on how society has been coerced and manipulated by MSM and politicians.

His early work as an inventor, collaborator of the mRNA technology and his bio below gives him the credentials ( not just "some guy in a basement" making videos), to have an opinion worth listening to.

Moreover he's right. You have to question what has happened to society. How did we get to the point where we started to turn on our families and co-workers out of fear of them being unvaccinated. Irrational fear and irrational behavior as a society.

Spent 10 minutes and listen to the video...it makes sense...

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Dr. Malone is an internationally recognized scientist and the original inventor of mRNA vaccination, DNA vaccination, and multiple non-viral DNA and RNA/mRNA delivery technologies. He holds numerous fundamental domestic and foreign patents in the fields of gene delivery, delivery formulations, and vaccines, including for fundamental DNA and RNA/mRNA vaccine technologies. He has approximately 100 peer-reviewed publications and published abstracts and about 12,000 citations of his peer reviewed publications (per Google Scholar with an "outstanding" impact factor rating). He has been an invited speaker at over 50 conferences, has chaired numerous conferences and he has sat on or served as chairperson on numerous National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and Department of Defense study sections.

Dr. Malone received his medical degree from the Northwestern Feinberg School of Medicine. He completed the Harvard Medical School fellowship as a global clinical research scholar in 2016 and was scientifically trained at the University of California at Davis, the University of California at San Diego, and at the Salk Institute Molecular Biology and Virology laboratories. Dr. Malone has served as an assistant and associate professor of pathology and surgery at the University of California at Davis, the University of Maryland, and the Armed Forces University of the Health Sciences.

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excellent video on what has 'intentionally' been perpetrated on society during this pandemic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvYTF5XWWc

Yes the fear mongering 24 7 didn't help.
Seems people get stuck on certain pieces like India or the mobile morgue in new York. The media jumped on every opportunity it could to create the fear.

As it provided an opportunity to build back better.

The split society is devastating yes families are split caught in the middle being used between the unvaccinated and the vaccinated.

It's horrible.







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Killing the economy is another way to achieve their goals. With inflation the way it’s going there are plenty of people who are struggling to make ends meet without realizing what is going on around them. They need their next paycheque so they just go along with what is happening to avoid a major disruption to what they have achieved.


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Another rumble/jumble conspiracy theorist blabbing away on this platform as he has been banned off other platforms.

Even in this interview with Fox news Tucker had to load the question about adults under 18 years old and small children to obtain a angle he was seeking.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker...ccine-inventor

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

Another example of you failing to engage the actual argument and resorting to slander.

First rule of holes: when you’re in one, stop digging.

And if you still don’t see why certain people are banned by the unholy alliance of big tech & big gov, not sure there’s much hope.

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"slander the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation."

"A fair comment is a privilege that allows the media to publish opinions about public officials and public figures without fear of a libel suit. It also allows the general public to share their opinions about these individuals."

Well media has not only made judgement on this character but it has been harsh and he is no longer allowed on some mainstream media.
When he goes on the media he is allowed on Fox News, they craft the question and narrow into a small portion of the population to get an answer that they want. In the Fox interview I posted, he does not come out against the vaccine, why would he when he was "collaborator of the mRNA technology". So now we are asked to believe the guy who helped invent the vaccine technology that we are all being brain washed
and that the vaccine MAY not be needed. I say MAY because during the entire interview he complains about not getting enough date about results on possible adverse effects.

Maybe you tin hat crowd should ask why he was messing around with DNA and vaccines in the first place.


" Along with many other physicians and scientists advocating early treatment, I have toured globally to help educate physicians and the public about early treatment options while also opposing the unethical mandates."

https://www.rwmalonemd.com/

I think this link best reflects what Dr. Malone is thinking.

One thing that is fact is supply chain issues are a major problem.
Almost everything I order is out of stock, and on back order.
It's literally insane.

Friend in the auto industry says new car inventory is dry, and if
dealerships don't have cars, they don't have revenue.

So, if it wasn't the shut downs that killed business ... seems that the supply
chain issues will bring many businesses to their knees.

It's actually terrible.

Started by 3 infectious disease experts from Harvard, Oxford, and Stanford. Now has over 60,000 scientists and doctors signed on all telling you to refuse mandatory jabs and lockdowns.

https://gbdeclaration.org

"The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection. "

"Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal... Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity."

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

Started by 3 infectious disease experts from Harvard, Oxford, and Stanford. Now has over 60,000 scientists and doctors signed on all telling you to refuse mandatory jabs and lockdowns.

https://gbdeclaration.org

"The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection. "

"Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal... Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity."

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We have had students low risk adults as you say at St. Francis Xavier University in NS in a major outbreak because of unsanctioned get togethers and the same in Kingston, Ontario with the same age group affected when they decided to party last month, now paying the price.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

We have had students low risk adults as you say at St. Francis Xavier University in NS in a major outbreak because of unsanctioned get togethers and the same in Kingston, Ontario with the same age group affected when they decided to party last month, now paying the price.

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Last month lol that's not omicron
. Yes the fully vaccinated establishments having out breaks imagine that. It is mandatory for university is it not?

They are protected nothing to see there lol.



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You all been brainwashed by Facebook's opinions not facts. Should I capitalize on that "OPINION" not facts.

Fact-checking is just another opinion nothing more . I think I said that a few weeks ago when someone tossed up a fact-check. I was smart enough to know what they we're doing and they were not checking the facts. Some yes many no they just twist the story and claim it's not peer reviewed yet bringing no facts of their own.

Even climate change.

https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.or...-is-opinion%2F

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Australia pm says getting people vaccinated are like trying to heard the sheep through the gate.

In other words he called the vaccinated sheep lol.

https://youtu.be/M8mkcJ2p4tg



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Originally Posted by fishfood

Last month lol that's not omicron
. Yes the fully vaccinated establishments having out breaks imagine that. It is mandatory for university is it not?

They are protected nothing to see there lol.



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Who mentioned OMICRON.

Answer. You did and not me.

We are talking Covid period and if you want to get picky omicron was detected in November. Universities are a case by case basis for mandatory vaccination from what I am reading.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Australia pm says getting people vaccinated are like trying to heard the sheep through the gate.

In other words he called the vaccinated sheep lol.

https://youtu.be/M8mkcJ2p4tg



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No he never he said trying to get them into vaccination centers was like herding sheep . So there is a word for this and a description

A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes an object or action in a way that isn't literally true, but helps explain an idea or make a comparison. ... A metaphor states that one thing is another thing. It equates those two things not because they actually are the same, but for the sake of comparison or symbolism.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

You all been brainwashed by Facebook's opinions not facts. Should I capitalize on that "OPINION" not facts.

Fact-checking is just another opinion nothing more . I think I said that a few weeks ago when someone tossed up a fact-check. I was smart enough to know what they we're doing and they were not checking the facts. Some yes many no they just twist the story and claim it's not peer reviewed yet bringing no facts of their own.

Even climate change.

https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.or...-is-opinion%2F

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Maybe this guy should stop saying stupid stuff. I am pretty sure Facebook considers him like a pesty mosquito and not at all worried about his on and off again law suit.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Maybe this guy should stop saying stupid stuff. I am pretty sure Facebook considers him like a pesty mosquito and not at all worried about his on and off again law suit.

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When a representative lawyer for Facebook says it's an opinion rather than facts that is a problem. I don't care about the person who is suing .



It's about controling the information that is seen by the large portion of the population .



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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Who mentioned OMICRON.

Answer. You did and not me.

We are talking Covid period and if you want to get picky omicron was detected in November. Universities are a case by case basis for mandatory vaccination from what I am reading.

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Yeah I was poking fun about the fully vaccinated established dealing with outbreaks. It's one of the reasons why I disagree with the mandates .

Saw this morning that the place you mentioned in NS is now dealing with the omicron variant.

It's supposed to become dominant by next week. The booster campaign is supposed pick to the highest levels in the next few days.
Unfortunately by they time they are done omicron should be done it's going to run its course really fast.








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We should be following the science.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

We should be following the science.

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There seems to be a lot of version's of the science, you chose which one to believe and I will chose mine.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

There seems to be a lot of version's of the science, you chose which one to believe and I will chose mine.

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Not lots of version,s lol.

Pushing an experimental vaccine on everyone ,mandating emergency use Vaccinations in work place, pushing the shots even right after infection, have no scientific evidence to support them but fear.

Making teenage kids take experimental drugs to participate in society when they have little risk of severe outcomes. And still spread the disease.

Now with omicron how many shot will they need to stop the spread? 3 4 ? and still be able to spread it. Just cuz it's good for them ?

The push for one naritive is following the science.


You are definitely on a better path than most . Most haven't even talk to a doctor. Just told by the media that it's safe and effective.

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The real victims of brainwashing are those who've been convinced by anti-vaxxers on social media to not take a vaccine that would reduce their risk of being infected, hospitalized and admitted to an ICU.

https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/onta...cinationstatus

https://i.imgur.com/9A9j1Ov.png

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The real victims of brainwashing are those who've been convinced by anti-vaxxers on social media to not take a vaccine that would reduce their risk of being infected, hospitalized and admitted to an ICU.

https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/onta...cinationstatus

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Seems like gm gave some exemptions after the first dose how come ? Maybe the second one would kill them?

It's called human rights and I have the right to deny any experimental vaccine.

It should be illegal for any company to push this experimental drug at this time. We have no idea what the long term effects will be but we have a clue of the instant side effects leaving hundreds a week to seek medical attention.

How's the hospital's working out now seems like it's a pandemic of the vaccinated. Fully vaccinated need to take daily test again short staffed because they would rather work harder than work with an unvaccinated person.

You keep pushing that example of but how many people are over 55 year's hat are unvaccinated in the hospital? Because we know over 20 percent of the population has little risk of being hospitalized unvaccinated.

Hospitals will be filling up shorty you can count on that. When the body can't react to a single bee sting we have a problem. Yes fact checkers are right the vaccine can't make a cold worse but when the body ignores it there is going to be a problem .

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The real victims of brainwashing are those who've been convinced by anti-vaxxers on social media to not take a vaccine that would reduce their risk of being infected, hospitalized and admitted to an ICU.

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Not sure where the 'Science Table' is getting their info...but straight from Ontario Health yesterday...

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Another 1,536 new cases of COVID-19 were reported in Ontario on Monday as the positivity rate for the disease in the province reaches its highest level in months.

Of the new infections logged, 809 were found in fully vaccinated individuals, 601 were found in those who are unvaccinated, and 33 were found in partially vaccinated individuals. The vaccination status of the remaining 93 cases is unknown.

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Not fancy math:

1536 infections.
809 fully vaxxed + 33 partial vaxxed = 842 or 55%
601 unvaxxed = 40% ...

I'll stick with that data....

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Not sure where the 'Science Table' is getting their info...but straight from Ontario Health yesterday...



Not fancy math:

1536 infections.
809 fully vaxxed + 33 partial vaxxed = 842 or 55%
601 unvaxxed = 40% ...

I'll stick with that data....

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The Science Table data is per capita. There are at least four times as many vaccinated as unvaccinated in Ontario. Unvaxxed are 25% of the population but 40% of the new infections and an even greater proportion of hospitalizations and ICU admissions.

You keep harping on and on about Hospitalizations...they're a moot point now.

ie: In Ottawa with 802 active cases ...there are only 6 patients hospitalized and 0 in the ICU....who cares what their vaccination status is ..it's irrelevant.

edit add: City of Toronto..6.8 million people: As of December 14 at 8:30 a.m., there have been 186,016 cases (338 new), 34 people are in hospital... they're irrelevant on a % basis. !!


With the Ormicon variant about roll thru Ontario..everyone regardless of the vaccination status is open to infection. Pfizer admits that it's only 23% effective to stop it....so the 'Verified' status means Bupkis :)

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Originally Posted by MikePal

You keep harping on and on about Hospitalizations...they're a moot point now.

ie: In Ottawa with 802 active cases ...there are only 6 patients hospitalized and 0 in the ICU....who cares what their vaccination status is ..it's irrelevant.

edit add: City of Toronto..6.8 million people: As of December 14 at 8:30 a.m., there have been 186,016 cases (338 new), 34 people are in hospital... they're irrelevant on a % basis. !!


With the Ormicon variant about roll thru Ontario..everyone regardless of the vaccination status is open to infection. Pfizer admits that it's only 23% effective to stop it....so the 'Verified' status means Bupkis :)

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Hospitalization rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated should matter to the individual who wants to stay out of one. The best way to do that is to be vaccinated.

The 23% efficacy is for two shots. Early studies say a third will take that to 70 so you might want to book your booster appointment.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/10/boos...ency-says.html

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Regardless of the initial vaccine a patient received, a Pfizer-BioNtech booster provided 70% - 75% protection against symptomatic infection for people.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Early studies say a third will take that to 70 so you might want to book your booster appointment.

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Your chances of being hospitalized (even back before vaccinations) is slim.. ..and then it was mostly autoimmune comprimised people. It really is an irrelevant metric in the grander scheme.

Canada accumulated only 1.8 Million positive cases (5% of the population) and only 7% of them (93K) were hospitalized.


Booster...fat chance of that happening...and if you think they'll get anywhere near 50% of the public to get a booster of a failed vaccine..you're really brainwashed :)

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Your chances of being hospitalized (even back before vaccinations) is slim.. ..and then it was mostly autoimmune comprimised people. It really is an irrelevant metric in the grander scheme. (Canada accumulated only 1.8 Million positive cases...only 93K were hospitalized or 7%. )


Booster...fat chance of that happening...and if you think they'll get anywhere near 50% of the public to get a booster of a failed vaccine..you're really brainwashed :)

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Don't forget you can take 21 percent of those cases and say they have only a slight chance low risk of needing medical attention. Considered even as rare . Then the next group of about 20 percent have a low risk of developing serious and it continues to expand as the age group go's up. It will be months before we get the last group of kids vaccinated up to par, then a fourth come spring.

Places are already mandating a 3rd shot it's now classified as a 3 dose vaccine for omicron.

The right thing to do would worry about the ones who are most at risk instead of wasting [emoji817] s of thousands vaccine's on kids who won't be fully protected until March lol. We know it was taking 2 months for a 2 dose be activated enough to be considered fully vaccinated. 2 weeks after the second shot with a delay in the middle. The longer they hold between shots the longer it will take to pump 3 shots in the younger people. Look at how much effort they are going to put in for them to say the kid was unvaccinated.

With the hospital's full of non covid patients they should be looking at what's putting them there. That will come out soon enough Dr tam just mentioned the other day we needed more hospital space something that should of been considered last year lol. Can't fix stupid.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

Hospitalization rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated should matter to the individual who wants to stay out of one. The best way to do that is to be vaccinated.

The 23% efficacy is for two shots. Early studies say a third will take that to 70 so you might want to book your booster appointment.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/10/boos...ency-says.html

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Yes if your in the high risk groups yes you should think about getting protection. Having someone that is unvaccinated near you shouldn't cancel out your protection you are vaccinated you are protected .

Your vaccine should work if I don't take mine that's what it's for to protect you.

We have created a divide between the unvaccinated and the vaccinated that its accually sickening. Families torn because they think if your unvaccinated you are the problem. I think if your fully vaccinated people have a problem it's the vaccine not living up to its word. Or the government words safe and effective .

If they were effective you shouldn't care who is unvaccinated or vaccinated the vaccinated should be protected.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Yes if your in the high risk groups yes you should think about getting protection. Having someone that is unvaccinated near you shouldn't cancel out your protection you are vaccinated you are protected .

Your vaccine should work if I don't take mine that's what it's for to protect you.

We have created a divide between the unvaccinated and the vaccinated that its accually sickening. Families torn because they think if your unvaccinated you are the problem. I think if your fully vaccinated people have a problem it's the vaccine not living up to its word. Or the government words safe and effective .

If they were effective you shouldn't care who is unvaccinated or vaccinated the vaccinated should be protected.

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No vaccine is 100% and while I've been vaccinated against diphtheria and pertussis I'm not about to invite anyone infected with either over to the house. No vax, no visit.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

No vaccine is 100% and while I've been vaccinated against diphtheria and pertussis I'm not about to invite anyone infected with either over to the house. No vax, no visit.

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Still apples to oranges . One is a shot every 10 years that has a 5 to 10% fatality rate. It's also been properly approved and tested for what decades?

This is an emergency use only experimental vaccine. With a virus that shows a 1 to 3 % with heavily inflated deaths.
The Adolescent population has a 99.995% survival rate and that is even inflated. Not a 90 percent chance


Even before everyone had vaccines as of April 22 2021 we only had 0.9% of the cases admitted to the ICU from the the past 13 moths. Also those were not all from covid many were already on the ICU when they become infected or just on it for other reasons.

But I guess that's enough to use the public as lab rats .


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Hey badenoch

45 % of this fully vaccinated health care party got covid .
But fire the unclean ones right ?
This was before omicron as they were watching very closely this article says several cases in the country the other more not your reliable source says 10 at this time.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59561876

Then just listen to the how silly it sounds when they fire all the health care workers because it's for the safety right ?

Special privileges for special groups right ?

https://youtu.be/z4MXVBqlPg4

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People have certainly been brainwashed into believing the vaccine protects against infections, it does not. With a fully-vaccinted University now remote learning from 900 confirmed cases should be proof enough it doesn't stop infection/transmission.

Hospitals are not full or over full with covid patients as they'd like people to believe, far from it...

The vaccines design is hope of less severe adverse effects of covid. Fully-vaccinted people can, do and are dying from covid complications.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The Science Table data is per capita. There are at least four times as many vaccinated as unvaccinated in Ontario. Unvaxxed are 25% of the population but 40% of the new infections and an even greater proportion of hospitalizations and ICU admissions.

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Don't bother ... I've tried that with MikePal many times, he doesn't seem to get the importance of comparing on a per capita basis ... which is basic statistics.
I've learned, there's no point in trying to share education with someone who just doesn't care to see it any other way (and disregards seeing it the right way).

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

People have certainly been brainwashed into believing the vaccine protects against infections, it does not. With a fully-vaccinted University now remote learning from 900 confirmed cases should be proof enough it doesn't stop infection/transmission.

Hospitals are not full or over full with covid patients as they'd like people to believe, far from it...

The vaccines design is hope of less severe adverse effects of covid. Fully-vaccinted people can, do and are dying from covid complications.

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Based on what? What you read on Rebel news?
Have you been in the ICU and know what is going on?

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Still apples to oranges . One is a shot every 10 years that has a 5 to 10% fatality rate. It's also been properly approved and tested for what decades?

This is an emergency use only experimental vaccine. With a virus that shows a 1 to 3 % with heavily inflated deaths.
The Adolescent population has a 99.995% survival rate and that is even inflated. Not a 90 percent chance


Even before everyone had vaccines as of April 22 2021 we only had 0.9% of the cases admitted to the ICU from the the past 13 moths. Also those were not all from covid many were already on the ICU when they become infected or just on it for other reasons.

But I guess that's enough to use the public as lab rats .


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I actually can't argue against this ... but here's one point I'll make ... how do you know what is in the other vaccines you are comfortable taking?
That's where I don't understand non-vaxxed logic ... unless you live by principle of NO VAXX at all, if you are taking some vacccines and not others ... at some
stage you are convincing yourself one can be trusted and the other not ... like, how do you know it's okay? You don't even know the manufacturing process,
and what's really in it ...

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Originally Posted by MarkB

I actually can't argue against this ... but here's one point I'll make ... how do you know what is in the other vaccines you are comfortable taking?
That's where I don't understand non-vaxxed logic ... unless you live by principle of NO VAXX at all, if you are taking some vacccines and not others ... at some
stage you are convincing yourself one can be trusted and the other not ... like, how do you know it's okay? You don't even know the manufacturing process,
and what's really in it ...

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They are not in clinical trials.
How well was this particular mrna vaccine studied? These new vaccines its new technologies before the pandemic they said it was relatively safe for humans but still needed time before going out into the public. Was anything changed to make the relatively safe vaccine safer?

This has an emergency use authorization only . Yet we don't have a problem making everyone get it. In fact it's the only thing they are pushing and is very irresponsible. Even the fda member who left because the government was going around what they say. We should be using as they are not pushing multiple shots of who knows what into everyone just because.

Like the union making mandates without any medical evidence in court room. Who are they to say what is good for a person. What if the person has already recovered ,people getting it just to travel or go to a restaurant. With an experimental vaccine.

If you took the vaccine you should be protected no excuse. We can't blame the adolescent for the vaccine not doing its job. Or even the unvaccinated. Hospitals are not overwhelmed with covid patients we didn't need everyone vaccinated for that. Now look at the condition of the Hospitals
What's with the mask why do you need a mask when you are protected ? We know fully vaccinated family's can still end up with covid. When is it considered a breakthrough when one ends up in the Hospital? We did something horrible and it will be hard to get back.

Who misleads the public into thinking they would get back to normal in a year if we only had vaccines. During a pandemic ? With experimental drugs? Even the fda said "we won't get the data until we start giving it" sorry not my children. They have a higher risk of dying from influenza than covid facts they never had a vaccine for it .





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Well when you have an incompetent, narcissistic, treasonous spoiled brat as the PM what should we expect?

Expect lots more of this:

Rebel News journalist ASSAULTED by Trudeau's bodyguards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQBbS__N17U&t=212s

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Based on what? What you read on Rebel news?
Have you been in the ICU and know what is going on?

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Based on many discussions with doctor working in a covid unit since the start. I have family working in ICU.
Where is your information from?

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I actually can't argue against this ... but here's one point I'll make ... how do you know what is in the other vaccines you are comfortable taking?
That's where I don't understand non-vaxxed logic ... unless you live by principle of NO VAXX at all, if you are taking some vacccines and not others ... at some
stage you are convincing yourself one can be trusted and the other not ... like, how do you know it's okay? You don't even know the manufacturing process,
and what's really in it ...

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It doesn't take much rational thought to realize the no other vaccine ever has used experimental emergency use only mRNA technology that never even passed animal testing in the past as it failed miserably. Somehow you seem to miss that very important point to rationalize your thinking. Btw, another point you are way off on is that the list of ingredients are readily available to anyone. You're starting to sound like Gilly and Bad more all the time. At least get your facts straight if you want to debate points.

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Originally Posted by smitty55

You're starting to sound like Gilly and Bad more all the time. At least get your facts straight if you want to debate points.

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None of them can back up their facts, because they don't exist or they're too lazy to find them.. They refuse to look up data to support their nonsense and refuse to accept that they are being misled. Just spout off anything to be antagonistic (troll). Then when they get backed into a corner they just resort to personal attacks. It's called Cognitive Dissonance

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Originally Posted by MikePal

None of them can back up their facts, because they don't exist or they're too lazy to find them.. They refuse to look up data to support their nonsense and refuse to accept that they are being misled. Just spout off anything to be antagonistic (troll). Then when they get backed into a corner they just resort to personal attacks. It's called Cognitive Dissonance

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It works well for both camps. The main difference being the sources of the information/disinformation.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

It works well for both camps. The main difference being the sources of the information/disinformation.

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One narrative with an emergency use only vaccine. Mandates within the union based on assumptions without any evidence .

To end this pandemic we need cases and a low hospitalization and deaths. It needs to stay manageable that's it. We will never get to zero covid look at Australia or China with the extreme first lockdown.

People say they need to vaccinate the children to stop the spread how many children have already had covid recovered from covid and now have natural advantages like stopping the spread . Evidence tells us that it's rare for reinfections.

We need to be rational about this not live in fear and use one narrative with experimental drugs.




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Originally Posted by smitty55

It doesn't take much rational thought to realize the no other vaccine ever has used experimental emergency use only mRNA technology that never even passed animal testing in the past as it failed miserably. Somehow you seem to miss that very important point to rationalize your thinking. Btw, another point you are way off on is that the list of ingredients are readily available to anyone. You're starting to sound like Gilly and Bad more all the time. At least get your facts straight if you want to debate points.

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Considering I am supposed to be on your ignore list, how could you possibly know what I am writing.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

None of them can back up their facts, because they don't exist or they're too lazy to find them.. They refuse to look up data to support their nonsense and refuse to accept that they are being misled. Just spout off anything to be antagonistic (troll). Then when they get backed into a corner they just resort to personal attacks. It's called Cognitive Dissonance

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Amazing posting about fellow members and calling them trolls and then not considering they are trolling. LOL