The unvaccinated

Who are they and what is happening to them.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ons-in-country

This is what's happening south of the border: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/13/supr...-mandates.html

U.S. Supreme Court blocks Biden's federal vaccine-or-test mandate for large businesses.

Come on Chucky!...answer the question......lol

https://rumble.com/vsrcoh-press-conf.html

Well, I found out first hand what happenes to the un-vaccinated yesterday!

Not pretty at all and I'm now sitting here giving things some thought....

Long story short. I went out on the lake and braved the cold yesterday with two vaccinated buddies. We hit the ice before first light and grinned about the upcoming sunrise and we were sure of some chunky splake hitting the ice. My buddies managed 3 nice fish each, I didn't even get a bite! The brisk breeze wouldn't even lend some excitement by knocking my line off the switch. Nothing!

Gotta make an appointment now...

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Gotta make an appointment now...

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Nicley Done... HaHa

See incentives work better than mandates !!!

OP, the unvaccinated are the only people standing up for your medical privacy rights and freedoms of choice. Without the strong and brave your freedoms would be lost forever. How about respect for those willing to sacrifice for freedom

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Originally Posted by Patriot

OP, the unvaccinated are the only people standing up for your medical privacy rights and freedoms of choice. Without the strong and brave your freedoms would be lost forever. How about respect for those willing to sacrifice for freedom

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I’m sorry to scoff at this, but a hero you are not. Your body, your choice. It’s still your choice.

You must have very little respect for the average Canadians intelligence. The majority have made their choice on vaccinations. You do realize vaccination disclosure is required to register your kids in school.

What exactly are you sacrificing?

Why isn't standing up to tyranny heroic in your view?

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You must have very little respect for the average Canadians intelligence

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. -- Yes. It's quite easy, generally speaking, to manipulate the majority of people, mainly by appealing to their base desires & instincts. The majority of people do not think critically, the majority of people are not brave, and Canadians generally love to just go along to get along.

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The majority have made their choice on vaccinations. You do realize vaccination disclosure is required to register your kids in school

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. -- The majority have been pressured, coerced, lied to, forced, etc. and a growing amount of them regret getting 2 shots and will not be getting any more based off this. That's a non-issue re schools as exceptions are in place, and those deal with different vaccines and illness. It's also limited to schools, and not grocery stores or services. We never had to show papers to go about our daily lives here.

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What exactly are you sacrificing?

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-- Enduring public shaming, ostracization, job loss, abuse, discrimination, attack on/suspension of basic fundamental rights, etc.

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Still haven't got fired like they said they would on Jan 1st....then Jan 15th, Now no talk about it lol. Take it day by day I guess, Done worrying about it.

I'll go work cash jobs all year if it comes down to it.

Probably be a mandate on covid pill next as I see health Canada just approved it.

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

Why isn't standing up to tyranny heroic in your view?

. -- Yes. It's quite easy, generally speaking, to manipulate the majority of people, mainly by appealing to their base desires & instincts. The majority of people do not think critically, the majority of people are not brave, and Canadians generally love to just go along to get along.

. -- The majority have been pressured, coerced, lied to, forced, etc. and a growing amount of them regret getting 2 shots and will not be getting any more based off this. That's a non-issue re schools as exceptions are in place, and those deal with different vaccines and illness. It's also limited to schools, and not grocery stores or services. We never had to show papers to go about our daily lives here.

-- Enduring public shaming, ostracization, job loss, abuse, discrimination, attack on/suspension of basic fundamental rights, etc.

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I guess a lot is based on your perception of tyranny. I’ve yet to see anything cruel and oppressive that can’t be justified.

By believing the majority of people made their decisions by being manipulated and not by their own good judgement is a tad accusatory and without evidence.

I wouldn’t believe the hype about your sacrifices. I doubt the average Canadian holds the unvaccinated accountable for the virus spread, especially with the data we have. Don’t buy into the medias sensalization.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

I guess a lot is based on your perception of tyranny. I’ve yet to see anything cruel and oppressive that can’t be justified.

By believing the majority of people made their decisions by being manipulated and not by their own good judgement is a tad accusatory and without evidence.

I wouldn’t believe the hype about your sacrifices. I doubt the average Canadian holds the unvaccinated accountable for the virus spread, especially with the data we have. Don’t buy into the medias sensalization.

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Times 2.

https://rumble.com/vss4bh-say-again.html

From a hospital in Quebec, Canada

Patient:
Miss, the covid cases coming here are mostly vaccinated or unvaccinated ?

Nurse:
Vaccinated

Patient:
Oh, vaccinated ?

Nurse:
All the patients I’ve had here were vaccinated

Patient:
..and they had covid ?

Nurse:
Yes

Patient:
Oh my God… Okay…

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https://rumble.com/vss4bh-say-again.html

From a hospital in Quebec, Canada

Patient:
Miss, the covid cases coming here are mostly vaccinated or unvaccinated ?

Nurse:
Vaccinated

Patient:
Oh, vaccinated ?

Nurse:
All the patients I’ve had here were vaccinated

Patient:
..and they had covid ?

Nurse:
Yes

Patient:
Oh my God… Okay…

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1 nurse. Wow, great reporting. What’s the provinces total data? Then we can start to form a conclusion on trends.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

1 nurse. Wow, great reporting. What’s the provinces total data? Then we can start to form a conclusion on trends.

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Looks like a trend to me.

Is there going to be a gofundme to pay the non vaccinated fines ?

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Is there going to be a gofundme to pay the non vaccinated fines ?

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I bet it goes to court and gets thrown out.

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

Why isn't standing up to tyranny heroic in your view?

. -- Yes. It's quite easy, generally speaking, to manipulate the majority of people, mainly by appealing to their base desires & instincts. The majority of people do not think critically, the majority of people are not brave, and Canadians generally love to just go along to get along.

. -- The majority have been pressured, coerced, lied to, forced, etc. and a growing amount of them regret getting 2 shots and will not be getting any more based off this. That's a non-issue re schools as exceptions are in place, and those deal with different vaccines and illness. It's also limited to schools, and not grocery stores or services. We never had to show papers to go about our daily lives here.

-- Enduring public shaming, ostracization, job loss, abuse, discrimination, attack on/suspension of basic fundamental rights, etc.

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Bushwhacker you are 100%er right there.

Terminating careers destroying families for refusing experimental drugs. The day doctors and nurses are terminated for making personal health decisions is Tyranny.
Forced to wear mask Tyranny.
Boosters Tyranny.
Passports Tyranny.

Nothing cruel there unless your a slave.

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Bushwhacker you are 100%er right there.

Terminating careers destroying families for refusing experimental drugs. The day doctors and nurses are terminated for making personal health decisions is Tyranny.
Forced to wear mask Tyranny.
Boosters Tyranny.
Passports Tyranny.

Nothing cruel there unless your a slave.

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Some people living in a dictatorship might consider you fortunate.

A little bit more data on covid admissions to hospitals in Quebec. The mandates and lockdowns are clearly failing given the number of people who got jabbed.
Pandemic of the vaxxed.

http://i.imgur.com/DlK4nWn.png

https://i.imgur.com/K7dtEyr.png

I would disagree. The data shows that the majority of people in the hospitals are 60+. One possible reason could be seniors residences. We know that the vaccine is lousy at stopping transmission.

While the other age groups represent far fewer hospitalizations. I would infer that the social distancing and number restrictions in stores, along with bars/restaurants closed for in house dining is working. After all it is the younger crowd making use of those facilities. And transmission is high with omicron.

The numbers in the ICU are also quite low. I wonder what the break down is of people vaccinated versus unvaccinated.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

While the other age groups represent far fewer hospitalizations. I would infer that the social distancing and number restrictions in stores, along with bars/restaurants closed for in house dining is working. After all it is the younger crowd making use of those facilities. And transmission is high with omicron.

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This graph would contradict that lockdowns are working...as you said the most socially active are the highest degree of cases.

https://i.imgur.com/tTKZFnAl.png

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

numbers in the ICU are also quite low. I wonder what the break down is of people vaccinated versus unvaccinated.

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Hospitalizations are still far greater for the vaccinated...which would suggest that it's more young people per the chart above.
Vaccinated in the ICU are over 50%

https://i.imgur.com/I5NsLJ2l.png

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This graph would contradict that lockdowns are working...as you said the most socially active are the highest degree of cases.

https://i.imgur.com/tTKZFnAl.png




Hospitalizations are still far greater for the vaccinated...which would suggest that it's more young people per the chart above.
Vaccinated in the ICU are over 50%

https://i.imgur.com/I5NsLJ2l.png

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I was remarking on impacts post of Quebec’s numbers.

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I was remarking on impacts post of Quebec’s numbers.

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That's fine, but my posted data still contradicts your statement...Omicron infections are running rampant thru the age group that is most socially active and least likely to take procautions.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

I guess a lot is based on your perception of tyranny. I’ve yet to see anything cruel and oppressive that can’t be justified.

By believing the majority of people made their decisions by being manipulated and not by their own good judgement is a tad accusatory and without evidence.

I wouldn’t believe the hype about your sacrifices. I doubt the average Canadian holds the unvaccinated accountable for the virus spread, especially with the data we have. Don’t buy into the medias sensalization.

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I guess we'll just have to disagree on this one double b.

If nothing in the past 2 years strikes you as tyrannical, I'm not sure what would?

My observation is not without evidence, it's a simple fact that most people do what they're told. Look up the Milgram experiment, the Stanford prison experiment and other such examples. There are several hidden camera videos of people doing things like sitting uncomfortably close to others in public spaces, and only 1 out of 10 people actually say something or reclaim their space...most others simply accommodate. The social science on this is pretty clear. With our covid situation, most people thought they were doing the right thing and that things would get back to normal if they simply complied. Now after 2 shots, they are shocked, disappointed and frustrated to find out they are in the same place. Many of these people (talk radio call-ins, random conversations in public, family members, friends, prominent public figures, members on this forum, etc.) have said they don't plan to take the booster out of principle. This misplaced anger and resentment also causes many of these people to continue blaming the unvaccinated / unmasked.

The solution? Either say "enough is enough" or continue complying with a 3rd, 4th shot and further restrictions that we all know are useless, while trying desperately to justify that to yourself in the face of emerging data that continues to refute everything. Which path do you choose?

Also, my pointing out that people have been manipulated is less a critique of those people and more of a critique of those who lied and manipulated them. It's predatory and subversive behaviour that deserves to be called out in defense of those people it harmed.

I am not 'hyping' my sacrifices or positioning myself as some sort of hero to be praised. I am correctly pointing out what most unvaccinated (and to a large degree those opposed to the mandates, regardless of their vax status) endure in response to your question, which had a tone of dismissive cynicism. Just a few days ago I flicked on am640 in the truck for a quick minute, and Dr. Gorfinkel, one of their 'experts' was going on about bogus #'s and how "this is still very much a pandemic of the unvaccinated!"

The unvaccinated / unmasked skeptics have been continually and incorrectly blamed for our situation.

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I guess we'll just have to disagree on this one double b.

If nothing in the past 2 years strikes you as tyrannical, I'm not sure what would?

My observation is not without evidence, it's a simple fact that most people do what they're told. Look up the Milgram experiment, the Stanford prison experiment and other such examples. There are several hidden camera videos of people doing things like sitting uncomfortably close to others in public spaces, and only 1 out of 10 people actually say something or reclaim their space...most others simply accommodate. The social science on this is pretty clear. With our covid situation, most people thought they were doing the right thing and that things would get back to normal if they simply complied. Now after 2 shots, they are shocked, disappointed and frustrated to find out they are in the same place. Many of these people (talk radio call-ins, random conversations in public, family members, friends, prominent public figures, members on this forum, etc.) have said they don't plan to take the booster out of principle. This misplaced anger and resentment also causes many of these people to continue blaming the unvaccinated / unmasked.

The solution? Either say "enough is enough" or continue complying with a 3rd, 4th shot and further restrictions that we all know are useless, while trying desperately to justify that to yourself in the face of emerging data that continues to refute everything. Which path do you choose?

Also, my pointing out that people have been manipulated is less a critique of those people and more of a critique of those who lied and manipulated them. It's predatory and subversive behaviour that deserves to be called out in defense of those people it harmed.

I am not 'hyping' my sacrifices or positioning myself as some sort of hero to be praised. I am correctly pointing out what most unvaccinated (and to a large degree those opposed to the mandates, regardless of their vax status) endure in response to your question, which had a tone of dismissive cynicism. Just a few days ago I flicked on am640 in the truck for a quick minute, and Dr. Gorfinkel, one of their 'experts' was going on about bogus #'s and how "this is still very much a pandemic of the unvaccinated!"

The unvaccinated / unmasked skeptics have been continually and incorrectly blamed for our situation.

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Honestly what can be said? The government’s around the world did what they thought best for their respective populations. You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. If the government stood idle and we allowed the virus to go rampant, who knows where we would be. But you can guarantee if fatalities spiked, the people would be looking for blood. We are now living with government decisions made for our safety (depends on your perspective). Currently I believe the majority are fine with the current state of affairs and it is only a minority looking for blood. But the bottom line is, you can’t make everyone happy.


ps. Am640 is highly opinionated.

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Some people living in a dictatorship might consider you fortunate.

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Living in one now. How very Unfortunate.

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Living in one now. How very Unfortunate.

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Perhaps you should read up on the differences a little more. But I can sense your frustration. Patience.

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Perhaps you should read up on the differences a little more. But I can sense your frustration. Patience.

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+1. To babble on about tyranny and Ontario being a dictatorship reflects the pampering of the modern age. Never having been in an actual dictatorship or faced hardship or privation of any sort some people tend to act out when their demands and expectations are not immediately met. Patience is an unknown concept to them.

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+1. To babble on about tyranny and Ontario being a dictatorship reflects the pampering of the modern age. Never having been in an actual dictatorship or faced hardship or privation of any sort some people tend to act out when their demands and expectations are not immediately met. Patience is an unknown concept to them.

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Patience has run out for the general population worldwide.
Tyranny is in our face and citizens are reacting to it in a firm and peaceful manner.
I would say that Agents are in damage control right now with their backs against the wall.

So, in essence you are correct Badenoch. It is We The People against a minority of "them"
Which side are you on?

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+1. To babble on about tyranny and Ontario being a dictatorship reflects the pampering of the modern age. Never having been in an actual dictatorship or faced hardship or privation of any sort some people tend to act out when their demands and expectations are not immediately met. Patience is an unknown concept to them.

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That's great to hear from you two that it really won't be that much of an inconvenience as the rest of us move forward and you suffer the consequences of the decision you made to get vaccinated. Remember it's for your safety and the "greater good" and when things get tough never forget patience is a virtue. Carry on.
https://www.tiktok.com/@speakup_21/v...app=v1&lang=en
https://www.tiktok.com/@speakup_21/v...app=v1&lang=en

A lot of mention of “which side are you on” and “which path will you take”. Incredible it took one pandemic in modern times to influence so many to call to arms. I guess there is some plan of another 1837?

Take a walk outdoors and enjoy the wonders of winter. Time is controlled by no man.

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I, am thinking about sending the Patriot a one way ticket to North Korea. LOL

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I, am thinking about sending the Patriot a one way ticket to North Korea. LOL

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Save your money. Travellers can't board commercial flights without proof of vaccination. An exception is made however if they are less than 12 years and 4 months old. :D

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Save your money. Travellers can't board commercial flights without proof of vaccination. An exception is made however if they are less than 12 years and 4 months old. :D

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How are your travel and restaurant plans these days?
That QR tattoo of yours getting itchy?....lol

Thank-you Gilroy. I'd take you up on the generous offer but unfortunately I'm unable to leave the country. Kinda sorta the same for North Koreans wanting to travel abroad.

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I, am thinking about sending the Patriot a one way ticket to North Korea. LOL

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how are your travel and restaurant plans these days?
That qr tattoo of yours getting itchy?....lol

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I think it serves little purpose, except maybe for entertainment, to egg each other on. We all have different views on many matters, and that’s what keeps these threads lively.

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How are your travel and restaurant plans these days?
That QR tattoo of yours getting itchy?....lol

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Ontario and Quebec plans are temporarily on hold for another week. Elsewhere it's full speed ahead!

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Ontario and Quebec plans are temporarily on hold for another week. Elsewhere it's full speed ahead!

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How's well is your QR pass working tomorrow for dine In? Just asking I have Donald on the phone,he'd like to do meet and eat. Any recommendations of places for eat and drinks?

Hey Siri, what are some symptoms of low testosterone?

"I've found this" -- https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/new...xico-v67bc2136

Late night hosts cheer Mexican news anchor's anti-vaxxer rant: https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/night-ho...091608921.html

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