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Gilboa Snake Double Barrel AR-15. :scream: :scream: :scream: :moose: :goodstuff:
https://special-ops.org/gilboa-snake/
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/d...-barrel-rifles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD4u_e2xjE4
Make sure to catch slow mo at 13:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKQBNPHh2u0
http://geniwalactes.be/pics/liberal-tears-coffee.jpg
I believe these kind of weapons have been designed to defeat body amour.
Simultaneous impact of two bullets within an inch have great chance to render the opponents armor useless.
We have few LEOs and Former CF members here -any opinion?
I presume you are talking about the body armour currently worn by law enforcement. I seem to recall an article a while back about and individual who acquired some body armour and got a friend to help test its effectiveness with a shotgun, loaded with buckshot at him. The guy is now dead, killed by the load of buckshot his friend fired at him. I believe the body armour, to be effective, relies upon the spin of the bullet to gnarl it in the protective fabric of the vest. I believe in this case, the problem was with the buckshot, in that it doesn't spin so didn't gnarl and passed straight through the vestQuote:
Originally Posted by gbk
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
Standard "bullet proof" vests do not stop 223 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
sorry but I had to laugh at the stupidity of the test subject and the shooter..uhhh what were they thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Nut
That dude should get the Darwin Award! Re: 2 barrel ar. I bet a toonie some sick idiot will use one in either a mosque or a night club in under a week. What the hell are they thinking when they allow crap like this to be legally marketed?
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Originally Posted by Fenelon
Interesting tech and all you can see is bull sh**... double barrel handguns, rifles, shotguns etc. have been around for atleast 200 years.. example below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSEMz3iaSxo
1911 in double
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCOQf12y3kw
This double AR is intended for special forces and in the public available version is still a semi auto with one trigger per barrel and at over $2000.... about 3 times a regular Ruger or S&W AR and the ARs are a tiny percent of firearms (highest I have heard is 5% and as popular as it is that is very low) used in crimes in the US so your statement is really ill-informed or just ridiculous at best.
Based on the last numbers I saw for Canada the AR is responsible for less deaths than in the case of this thread the number of idiots wearing body armour let their friends shoot them with buck shot.
P.S.
Saw this, thought the history and tech guys would like it.
Ross Rifle converted to automatic in 1916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UI0XvrIfl0
???? Not sure what you're looking at for those stats. Just a simple perusal of Wiki shows a list of the most deadly us mass shootings that have occurred in the us in the past 50 years. High capacity semis (with precisely this type of ar platform being #1) were used in 6 out of 10 of the worst on record according to what I'm reading.
This rifle is a solution looking for a problem.
I wonder if the twin barrels will function with a bump stock eg. two rounds per contact on double triggers. What's the highest capacity mags a civilian can buy in the states for an AR type rifle?
Labradors bite more people in the US than any other breed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenelon
It is the same thing, the AR platform is the most numerous firearm in the US and the US has by far the largest number of mass shootings in the world, not hard to figure out that the AR-15 would be used in mass shootings in the US.
I guess you would be ok with double barrel lever action win 94 then, never been used in a mass shooting in the US and only 1 terrorist attack in Canada.
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Originally Posted by Fenelon
If you limit it to the worst cases and other criteria perhaps so, site sources.
A bit dated but one of the few that did actually look, now note this is the US NOT Canada
https://kirbysandersbiz.wordpress.co...-shootings/
Given the fact that murderer Adam Lanza used a .223 caliber AR15 style rifle in the December 14, 2012, shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary, much of the current debate has again focused on “military style assault rifles”. These types of weapons have been used in eight of the 62 incidents. AR15 variant weapons using .223 caliber ammunition were used in five of the 32 incidents since Columbine (one case being a European variant roughly equivalent to .224 caliber). AK47 variant weapons chambered for European 7.62×39 caliber were used in three incidents. None of those were fully automatic, true military “assault rifles”. All were civilian semiautomatic weapons.
Given that Lanza also carried a Glock brand semiautomatic pistol and a Sig Sauer semiautomatic pistol, those, too, have come under scrutiny. Glock pistols have been employed in eight of the recent incidents. Sig Sauer pistols have been used in two. Handguns have been used in most of the recent incidents with semiautomatic pistols constituting the vast majority. Of the incidents where handguns were used, five involved revolver type weapons — the balance employed an array of different brands and calibers of semiautomatic. Far and away, the most often employed caliber is the nine millimeter (9mm). This 9mm ammunition has been involved in 14 of the 32 cases since Columbine. It should be noted, however, that 9mm is probably the most common caliber of ammunition available in the United States.
In four of the incidents, the specific model of firearm used could not be determined.
Shotguns have been used in eight of the incidents, being 12 gauge chambering, pump action models every time.
Actually listed in this article from the same era, several 22 firearms listed I see, a Remington 870....
https://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0057.htm
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Originally Posted by Fox
https://www.guns.com/news/2020/11/17...-ars-150m-mags
Of those, "America's Rifle,"the AR-15 and similar semi-automatics dubbed Modern Sporting Rifles by the NSSF, account for an estimated 19.8 million, lending concrete numbers to the argument that such guns are in common use.
So the pump action 12 guage was used in more mass shootings at the date of the old article and admitted that probably changed but to blame a piece of metal.... a disconnect from reality is a polite phrase. There have been many mass shootings stopped before they got far and the .223 and 9mm have been used in many many self defence situations. As for those with criminal intent, well for example Runkle of the Bailey recently talked about 3-D printers firearms charges, the person dedicated to violence will find a way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9InXH2-0b8E
I think the moment you start the dialogue that the gun is the issue and not the person using it you become one of the Liberal minions that feel taking AR's out of CANADA........we are not talking the US here, will make Canadians safer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenelon