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Canadian athlete out after having a bout with Covid19 and testing shows heart inflamation . No mention of how many jabs if any the healthy 25 year old had received to be able to globe-trot and play for his German club team, if any at all, but the narrative is that Covid caused it, not any jabs. Who decides Covid19 is the cause and not the needles??
John
The narrative I read was he had covid now shows heart inflamation. Anything else will be driven by the jab vs no jab cliques. The one thing we'll never know in his case is how much worse would he be with or with out those jabs what ever the case maybe.
Vaccine injury reporting systems decide: https://rumble.com/vs0dvk-vax-injuries.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by johnjyb
I don't know as a system that includes everything from irritation at injection site to death is a great way to exaggerate the numbers but hey if it pushes the narrative what the heck. As always if you're that concerned about the boggy jab don't get it however follow the guidlines of the path you choose.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
If you are unable to read and comprehend the physicians medical notes on each and every VAERS reports why do you even comment?Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
What is your intended purpose of minimizing important information?
Are you not concerned with the harm being brought to the population?
Should there not be safety recalls on defective products?
Theres always a balance between society benefit and individual risks. Sure if a products safety is a concern it should be pulled. However fear mongering of 900 000 reports when most of them are for nothing more than irritations is a little narrative pushing. As always its your chioce but I wouldn't take it away from the majourity that find a benefit for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
"Follow the guidelines of the path I chose" My path included training to certify myself in redseal trades which will give me an honest income with pension and able to provide for my family under guidelines that were clear and defined. All of a sudden people are putting walls up on the sides of my path, with gates opening at random times with no reason and many being forced down these dark paths while others take bright paths which I have paid to have well lit and paved and are now denied to me.
This is not about choice this is about punitive actions to force people to comply, nothing else. If I have a choice, it is to keep what I have worked hard and long for, not have it ripped from my hands.
John
I see FFF has already edited his post and no longer has the statement "Follow the guidelines of the path I chose",oops, it is back 2 posts.
How many deaths and lifetime injuries do you find acceptable before a recall should be issued?Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
As a Trades person your profession has always been governed by rules and guidlines and for which if you choose to ignore them or do what ever you feel like you'll be sanctioned right? Life is ever changing and when circumstances change than the requirements of duty will adapt. Do you think I enjoy having to wear an N95 mask, Face shield, non pourous gown and work within a sealed room while monitioring air exchange no but its done because thems the rules. No I'm not a mindless sheep but give credence that those that govern my profession are making the best policies for all.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjyb
As alway Follow the guidelines of the path youy choose
How many lives saved before you find it acceptable? We elect people to make those hard decisions, periodically we have an oppurtunnity to affrim that resonsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
Its has always been the great debate
https://medium.com/the-devils-advoca...w-a26496d1c47f
How about we listen to expert opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
https://rumble.com/vspkto-vaccines.html
Hey impact, we can both agree on some kind of adverse affects of the vaccine. Can you agree that the vaccine has benefited many from suffering serious illness?
Can you agree that the timely release of therapeutics by government agencies would have prevented millions of unnecessary deaths and injuries worldwide?Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdbuff
Of course any Canadian msm outlet is going to be careful of any sentiment critical of the jabs.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjyb
As we all know, the chances of severe covid sickness for healthy people, especially young healthy people are extremely low. Common sense would indicate injecting yourself with an emergency-use experimental cocktail 2 or 3 times would be the more likely culprit. Vaccines also tend to harm those of African ethnicity more frequently.
We know there have been numerous athletes who've suffered severe side effects (including death) after the jabs, with myocarditis being the main one.
As with anything, we can wait until more info rolls out before confirming our suspicions. But certain things that contradict the narrative tend to get left behind.
Sounds a very sensible response. These issues we face certainly common sense can achieve no argument there.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
When money power and censorship get involved heavily influenced outcomes rule the day. Money and power can buy many lives
The difference is that the covid #'s are also exaggerated, and this has been confirmed straight from the mouths of numerous horses.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
The msm, the health 'experts' and others have been engaged in constant fear mongering for over a year & a half, yet only one side is flagged for 'misinformation'. Why?
And it isn't a clean wash -- it's not like we have our pick of the blue car or the red car that perform exactly the same so who cares.
If the majority of covid cases, say 75% are just an irritation, and a minority of vax cases, say 40%, result in just an irritation, that's still a huge fail for the vax relatively speaking. Especially when we were all promised 100% efficacy and a return to normal life...and many made the decision to jab themselves based off this.
I understand your point but this is a pretty important distinction.
Here you go!
https://rumble.com/vsq9gt-vaccine-efficay.html
Taken out of context I believe, but you guys decide. Logically I can’t see why a CEO would try to sabotage his company.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2TT29Z
Can you explain how it is possible to have a negative efficacy rate? I understood the formula to be based on a scale of 0-100%, how do their numbers achieve a negative percentage? The video would have been better made if they showed the data they were extrapolating from. It is difficult to place blind trust in the video because I feel it doesn’t explain enough of where they got the numbers and how they drew their conclusions. Rumble isn’t exactly known for being the most factual when it comes to information.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
It is all explained starting at the 2:15 mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdbuff
Not sure what you don't understand. Watch it again and again and again...lol
https://rumble.com/vsq9gt-vaccine-efficay.html
From the CDC website:
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dsepd/ss19.../section6.html
“Vaccine efficacy/effectiveness (VE) is measured by calculating the risk of disease among vaccinated and unvaccinated persons and determining the percentage reduction in risk of disease among vaccinated persons relative to unvaccinated persons. The greater the percentage reduction of illness in the vaccinated group, the greater the vaccine efficacy/effectiveness. The basic formula is written as:
Risk among unvaccinated group − risk among vaccinated group divided byRisk among unvaccinated group
OR: 1 − risk ratio”
By this formula your rumble video would suggest that the vaccinated are more susceptible to covid versus unvaccinated individuals. This we know not to be true.
Who is WE?....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Birdbuff
https://i.imgur.com/IyhsGNX.jpg