Physicians and Nurses

I was perusing their respective websites and haven’t found anything to indicate they are anti vaccine or mandate.

https://www.cpso.on.ca/

https://www.ona.org/

I would assume that our frontline healthcare workers would surely speak up en masse if the vaccine was as dangerous as some believe or as inadequate as some believe.

If there was some sinister actions at work here, I doubt that it would influence the majority of these workers. In fact they should be consulted more on their data based evidence and their opinions should be respected. We should be listening to these folks a lot more then the media.

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I was perusing their respective websites and haven’t found anything to indicate they are anti vaccine or mandate.

https://www.cpso.on.ca/

https://www.ona.org/

I would assume that our frontline healthcare workers would surely speak up en masse if the vaccine was as dangerous as some believe or as inadequate as some believe.

If there was some sinister actions at work here, I doubt that it would influence the majority of these workers. In fact they should be consulted more on their data based evidence and their opinions should be respected. We should be listening to these folks a lot more then the media.

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You can speak up all you want. if the media won't cover it your voice goes unheard

About 20 thousand alone in Quebec had been threatened in September.

Vax or out .

Those people never got heard.
Many got it to keep their careers.

Sad reality


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About 20 thousand alone in Quebec had been threatened in September.

Vax or out .

Those people never got heard.
Many got it to keep their careers.

Sad reality


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20k nurses threatened is no joke. I can’t help but wonder, with those numbers why they wouldn’t have made some noise. We have less than 20k protesting in Ottawa and look at the coverage.

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20k nurses threatened is no joke. I can’t help but wonder, with those numbers why they wouldn’t have made some noise. We have less than 20k protesting in Ottawa and look at the coverage.

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Doctor just on the telly, he will be having a counter demonstration along with other health care workers near Queen Park to show their displeasure at nurses getting threatened while on coffee breaks and to stand up for the rights of patients in the nearby 5 major hospitals
some of whom will be people dying of cancer and now people getting operations cancelled because possibility of problems.

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20k nurses threatened is no joke. I can’t help but wonder, with those numbers why they wouldn’t have made some noise. We have less than 20k protesting in Ottawa and look at the coverage.

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The Doctors who have spoken have been silenced and stripped of their medical licenses.

They always say because they are giving misleading or false information, then like I have said they don't give anything other than that.

Yet it's ok for the government to mislead and misrepresented the numbers.

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Doctor just on the telly, he will be having a counter demonstration along with other health care workers near Queen Park to show their displeasure at nurses getting threatened while on coffee breaks and to stand up for the rights of patients in the nearby 5 major hospitals
some of whom will be people dying of cancer and now people getting operations cancelled because possibility of problems.

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Sad the counter protest is about a few people who have abused the health care workers.

Why not the counter protest the evidence and science we should be following lol.

Like the counter protest in Ottawa for them to go home.

Why not counter protest with facts about why the vaccine pass should stay in place.

That is the counter part to defend the science the evidence to keep these in place.


But they never really have any of that. Lol.

Just call them names because you don't believe in what they believe.

Ps the majority of the protesters love the health care workers. A few bad apples and the counter protest is to defend the workers not about the virus or mandates and the reasons they are in place.



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What really surprises me is the resistance to vaccinations by front line health care workers.....MD's included. Those folks are in the thick of it watching people literally take their last breath. Granted,90% of Sars2Cov-19 deaths are from co-morbidities people already have before they went to hospital,but,to me,it would be like patrolling highways,streets and back roads without soft body armor. It ain't happenin'. I'll never understand why they'd do it.

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The Doctors who have spoken have been silenced and stripped of their medical licenses.

They always say because they are giving misleading or false information, then like I have said they don't give anything other than that.

Yet it's ok for the government to mislead and misrepresented the numbers.

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I don’t think the doctors and nurses are united against the mandates or vaccines. If they were we would see a strong statement from them.

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I don’t think the doctors and nurses are united against the mandates or vaccines. If they were we would see a strong statement from them.

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Doctors don't have a choice or their medical licenses are suspended from not taking the vaccine.

New Brunswick's unvaccinated doctors to be suspended at midnight
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...nded-1.6268066

Take the jab or your gone

Don't want to take the jab oh well to bad you can't be a doctor anymore.

Want to tell someone they don't need a vaccine suspended.

Want to tell a patient they are low risk suspended.

If you speak of the side effects opps your suspended.

Want to try and treat a patient with something we don't recommend because its not covid specific suspended.





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Doctors don't have a choice or their medical licenses are suspended from not taking the vaccine.

New Brunswick's unvaccinated doctors to be suspended at midnight
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...nded-1.6268066

Take the jab or your gone

Don't want to take the jab oh well to bad you can't be a doctor anymore.

Want to tell someone they don't need a vaccine suspended.

Want to tell a patient they are low risk suspended.

If you speak of the side effects opps your suspended.

Want to try and treat a patient with something we don't recommend because its not covid specific suspended.





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Don’t believe the media. Ask your doctor.

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Sad the counter protest is about a few people who have abused the health care workers.

Why not the counter protest the evidence and science we should be following lol.

Like the counter protest in Ottawa for them to go home.

Why not counter protest with facts about why the vaccine pass should stay in place.

That is the counter part to defend the science the evidence to keep these in place.


But they never really have any of that. Lol.

Just call them names because you don't believe in what they believe.

Ps the majority of the protesters love the health care workers. A few bad apples and the counter protest is to defend the workers not about the virus or mandates and the reasons they are in place.



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They'd be better off joining them, this whole thing would be over tomorrow.

Just for fun google the third leading cause of death.

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They'd be better off joining them, this whole thing would be over tomorrow.

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Yet they’re not. Makes you think.

Wondering what is the point of dwelling on this COVID 19 anymore?
Not saying to anyone what to do-but there is a clear:

Unbridgeable difference between the Pro Vaccine and No vaccine people(so bad -the Pro Vaccine people coined a "swear word" for No vaccinated people, and call them = Anti vaxer!Lined up alongside many other "swear"words,mostly happily used by the SOO democratic and SOO inclusive left).
It should be clear to anyone who is willing to have open eyes(ears)that the MSM dictates what is HAPPENING in the world.If it is NOT on the news,or just at the bottom,with very small letters-then it DID NOT happen.
It is also clear -NO government (ever) and in any Country (regardless how much they claim they are SOO Democratic country-never mind the rest=not Democratic ones) willingly supported opposing opinions. Especially opposing opinions this magnitude.
It is also clear(first and foremost-to the Employers of those Health Care workers = Government)that opposing opinions are NOT welcome,not tolerated,and :Either you are on the Bus ,or under the bus!

So what is the big surprise ,little if any significant opposition is heard from Heath care workers ?
What our Family Dr should /could also say anyway???

I would chalk the "silence"of the Health Care workers to the side of the AntiVaxxer crowd opinion.
It seems-Health care worker opinions are "off the table".

Everyone has a right to do whatever they want .
Very interesting ( to me)in all this Vaxxer vs Anti Vaxxer debate : the Anti vaxxers blame the Governement and openly say -the vaxxer crownd is "weak"or "gulliable "or else.Soft opposition.Mostly.
At the other and -the Vaxxer crowd(at least the vocal ones)openly and vehemently "attack" Anti vaxxers . Hard.Most of the time. Like they are "threath"to other ppl's health,and threat to our" freedom".

This Covid is a "diminishing" topic by now(hope i am wrong)and even the Governements world wide see,that the measures from the past 2 sad years can not be dragged on a whole lot more.

PS-i understand the cabin fever factor.:);):tongue:cheers

ps-just so some can sleep well-i am by no mean Anti Vaxxer(got all 3 shots by now-PLUS i got thru the COVID 1 month ago) but also not a Pro Vaxxer at all,and took the vaccine only because of "my circumstances"which are related to my Family back home. Could not care less about who wants what.
I belive in freedom of opinions,and the equal rights of the Anti Vaxxer crowd.

Eventhough-the older i get,the less i belive in the "freedoms-equality-democracy- " etc.NOT in those ideas(just the real world implementation of them)

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Yet they’re not. Makes you think.

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The Coles notes. https://rumble.com/vu04lo-say-what.h...wXmL4Cunkf9qlc

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The Coles notes. https://rumble.com/vu04lo-say-what.h...wXmL4Cunkf9qlc

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Just to be clear, you’re getting your information from someone named “potatocakes4”

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Just to be clear, you’re getting your information from someone named “potatocakes4”

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Yup it looks like we got another potato head.

https://medika.life/reiner-fuellmich...onspiracy-con/

There were counter protests in Toronto today by a number of nurses and doctors that weren’t afraid to talk to reporters and have their say. We should really be listening more to these people. They save lives!

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There were counter protests in Toronto today by a number of nurses and doctors that weren’t afraid to talk to reporters and have their say. We should really be listening more to these people. They save lives!

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Why would you listen to these people, if you get appendicitis just drop by a truck stop and a big burly guy will do a quick operation. LOL

I had a long chat with my doctor before getting the vaccine. This is a relatively young doctor that did quite a bit of research for not just his patients but his own family as well. I've trusted his opinion on numerous health issues that have arisen in our family over the years and this is no different. I respect those that have chosen not to get the vaccine and agree it's none of my business. When those with opposing views tell us how stupid we are or sheeple following gov't orders it doesn't do much good.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/02/...rotest-letter/

We should be listening more to this majority of health care workers. Here are some of their thoughts. Talk to your doctor and see what they think.

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https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/02/...rotest-letter/

We should be listening more to this majority of health care workers. Here are some of their thoughts. Talk to your doctor and see what they think.

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Is that what you believe. That article only mentions hate, racism, mysoginy, violence, LGBTQ, and that we should be worshipping them nothing about health. It would seem this group of health care workers have taken the same stance as Trudone , wonder why?

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Is that what you believe. That article only mentions hate, racism, mysoginy, violence, LGBTQ, and that we should be worshipping them nothing about health. It would seem this group of health care workers have taken the same stance as Trudone , wonder why?

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I believe my doctor. I trust my doctor. I listen to my doctor.

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Is that what you believe. That article only mentions hate, racism, mysoginy, violence, LGBTQ, and that we should be worshipping them nothing about health. It would seem this group of health care workers have taken the same stance as Trudone , wonder why?

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If it’s such an isolated incident it does make one wonder why healthcare workers needed to write this in the first place.

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I believe my doctor. I trust my doctor. I listen to my doctor.

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What does that have to do with the propaganda you posted. It seems like you're jumping all over this forum trying to put fires out.Just curious does your wife or kids work in health care?

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What does that have to do with the propaganda you posted. It seems like you're jumping all over this forum trying to put fires out.Just curious does your wife or kids work in health care?

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Just giving everyone a different perspective than the one others are offering. Let’s call it food for thought more than propaganda. Of course if one has a distrust in the health care profession, I could see how it would be misconstrued as propaganda.

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I had a long chat with my doctor before getting the vaccine. This is a relatively young doctor that did quite a bit of research for not just his patients but his own family as well. I've trusted his opinion on numerous health issues that have arisen in our family over the years and this is no different. I respect those that have chosen not to get the vaccine and agree it's none of my business. When those with opposing views tell us how stupid we are or sheeple following gov't orders it doesn't do much good.

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Well said. I completely agree and made my own educated choice with a lot of research and council from many people who are way smarter than I am.

That being said I respect and listen to the opinions from the other side right up until they tell me I can’t think on my own or am a sheep

Just because I have a different opinion on something does not mean I don’t think. I would bet I put more thought and research in than many but I’m also smart enough to realize I don’t know everything and that I’m not a doctor despite my research. And most of all I don’t make life choices based on a meme

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Doctors don't have a choice or their medical licenses are suspended from not taking the vaccine.

New Brunswick's unvaccinated doctors to be suspended at midnight
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-b...nded-1.6268066

Take the jab or your gone

Don't want to take the jab oh well to bad you can't be a doctor anymore.

Want to tell someone they don't need a vaccine suspended.

Want to tell a patient they are low risk suspended.

If you speak of the side effects opps your suspended.

Want to try and treat a patient with something we don't recommend because its not covid specific suspended.





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So what was the point? https://www.wnd.com/2022/05/bill-gat...xIiwvT_NuECfUo

nurses cant really speak out! but if you want to listen to dr or nurse go talk to one working in emergency of intensive care etc not dr scholls

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So what was the point? https://www.wnd.com/2022/05/bill-gat...xIiwvT_NuECfUo

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Still not sure why people are taking medical advice from a computer tech lol. He is an investor not a doctor lol. " his best investment ever 20 to 1 " lol. But hey.


This doctor gave up to 500 kids their shots "off label" under 5 and as young as 6 months old.

Where is the mainstream? It's ok to give out vaccines that are not recommended to children . But it's not to discuss the side effects lol. It's ok when it fits the narrative.


https://tnc.news/2022/05/27/doctor-g...ix-months-old/


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A Dr gets punishment for off label treatments but ok for off label vaccines wacked.



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