Social Credit Score

If you haven't got up to speed on what all the talk is about with the development of a 'Social Credit Score'...time to pay attention.

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China’s social credit system is a combination of government and business surveillance that gives citizens a “score” that can restrict the ability of individuals to take actions — such as purchasing plane tickets, acquiring property or taking loans — because of behaviors. Given the position of several major American companies, a similar system may be coming here sooner than you think.

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The potential scope of the soft social credit system under construction is enormous. The same companies that can track your activities and give you corporate rewards for compliant behavior could utilize their powers to block transactions, add surcharges or restrict your use of products. At what point does free speech — be it against biological males playing in girls’ sports, questioning vaccine side effects, or advocating for gun rights — make someone a target in this new system? When does your debit card get canceled over old tweets, your home loan denied for homeschooling your kids, or your eBay account invalidated because a friend flagged you for posting a Gadsden flag?

from ..a good read; https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/...-credit-system

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Cutting to the chase, this is a good summary.

https://rumble.com/vwgtfl-social-credit-score.html


The pandemic proved that the largest purveors of misinformation were the Politicains (via MSM) ..and they will be the ones who will decide if what you print/post/buy/say is along party lines or misinformation. And they have the tools to restrict you, cancel you, your bank accounts (Truckers) and even your insurance policies.

Time to wake up and see what all those tracking apps ( Arrive Can, QR codes, GPS tracking, FB) you've put on your phones for convenience, actually allows them to watch, study and know all about you...even what you eat using the food delivery and grocery purchase apps.

Conspiracy theory...not a chance, already in place.

Example: Today's headline

Russian lawmakers approve prison for anyone spreading 'fake' reports on Ukraine war

(understanding it's the government who decides what is 'Fake' news. )

Surely even the staunchest Liberal mind can see the parallel in principle to what the Village Idiot did with the Truckers....

I understand the fear coming from this kind of theory. But I believe in a democratic situation it would be much more difficult to implement this kind of system. Phone apps, bank transactions and social media posts have been “go to” tracking tools for a while now. Smart devices do listen in on conversations and technology is a double edged sword. But it would be a very hard sell for a government to openly program a social credit system on a freedom loving society. Our armies and police have freedom of thought and are not indoctrinated like China and Russia.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

I understand the fear coming from this kind of theory. But I believe in a democratic situation it would be much more difficult to implement this kind of system. Phone apps, bank transactions and social media posts have been “go to” tracking tools for a while now. Smart devices do listen in on conversations and technology is a double edged sword. But it would be a very hard sell for a government to openly program a social credit system on a freedom loving society. Our armies and police have freedom of thought and are not indoctrinated like China and Russia.

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It’s Easier To Fool People Than To Convince Them That They’ve Been Fooled.

While i am not into conspiracy theories ,the likelihood of this happening is more then probable.
To what degree and which fields-we have yet to see.

Why? It works for everyone-except the small guy.
If(when)it will happen-we will never know.
It will come unannounced ,small steps at the time,over 1-2 generations.
Or -a major world event will speed it up,used as Casus "Belli".

Actually-it is already here ,in many ways.

By the time it is all over ...no one will know any better.
Those few they would-and dare ,will be silenced/marginalized/made pariah.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

Our armies and police have freedom of thought and are not indoctrinated like China and Russia.

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That depends who you ask. Lol.

The introduction of such system won't be instant.. it's all about building a habit in population
first, let just switch to government backed Bitcoin
because fiat is having so much trouble (financial instability is already there)

Then switch centralized health card,ID,
e-wallet,TTC metro pass, Air tickets, vaccine ID on your phone - because it's "fast, safe and convenient "

Then, grab some incident that has a public tearing up about some child being hurt or what ever other emotional means and use it to "It could have been prevented only if we were had laws in place to tie their social speeches to block their access in advance". You get some antiFA "hey hey ho ho" crowd to walk around, PM kneels for the poor little child, everyone get brains washed that "we have to give up our rights for the good of society to stop the criminals"

And there you have it - a social system in place...


When introduced gradually - the brainwashed public will gladly accept it,
Afterall good guys have nothing to hide, right ?

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And what is the other option? Reject technology?

Our youth is hooked on technology, they know nothing else. My kids know how to use an iPad and it’s apps far better than I do. The schools openly encourage the use of calculators (it was frowned upon in my day) to achieve answers that could be done long hand. Computers, tablets and smart boards have taken front stage to the old fashioned way of printing or cursive writing ideas on paper. Almost every child in 6th grade and up has a smart phone. This is a world wide phenomenon.

The conditioning to be technologically dependent is occurring whether we like it or not. Brains will go unchallenged and become weak in future generations. Those that reject technology will be outcasts, left behind.

The social scores of society won’t really matter, there won’t be much use of a large population in the future.

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

And what is the other option? Reject technology?

Our youth is hooked on technology, they know nothing else. My kids know how to use an iPad and it’s apps far better than I do. The schools openly encourage the use of calculators (it was frowned upon in my day) to achieve answers that could be done long hand. Computers, tablets and smart boards have taken front stage to the old fashioned way of printing or cursive writing ideas on paper. Almost every child in 6th grade and up has a smart phone. This is a world wide phenomenon.

The conditioning to be technologically dependent is occurring whether we like it or not. Brains will go unchallenged and become weak in future generations. Those that reject technology will be outcasts, left behind.

The social scores of society won’t really matter, there won’t be much use of a large population in the future.

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To be honest, I keep thinking about it and cannot come up with a reliable solution in my head..
I agree you cannot reject tech innovation - simply impossible.. it brings benefits and dangers at the same time.

The dangers is in of how tech gets used and who owns your data. That why it makes sense to have strong pushback on any privacy breaking laws and "society over individual" rhetoric.

Every little move nowdays against the above values is a slippery slope..that could and will get used against the same individuals.. I am strong believer that legal framework should be in place to protect individual data, so that when this data is used secretly - at very least they can go back in court and raise all kinds of stink..

Unfortunately, the complete opposite is actually happening



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Estonia has a pretty decent attempt to handle this problem.
They are one of the most advanced countries in this field. Everything is digitized, however individuals have can at any point review who accessed their data and for what reason.
If they disagree or consider access illegal, they can officially dispute such access and force government officials to provide a detailed explanation for certain access request

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It's being pushed through as we speak bill C11 and C36, they will be able to fine or imprison you for your thoughts, look them up. Right now the WHO is trying to pass a treaty that will give them and their partner the U.N. sole control over your country and the world for what the deem a world health risk, don't forget they recently changed the definition of a pandemic to fit the narrative of the one that just passed. Back in 2018 Bill Gates in an interview said that there would be two pandemics and repeated it again this January. Ukraine is/was home to 15 bioweapons labs Kazkhstan had one and is the new home of the NWO with all their Masonic infrastructure in place. Digital ID is already here if you don't believe in conspiracy theories now would be a good time to start. Noah was a conspiracy theorist and then it began to rain, I'm sure you know the rest of the story.

Would misleading information come government and cdc withholding information is a form of misinformation.

When governments get to pick what the public gets to know on the information it want you to know is corruption.

So the big guys can manipulate the people.


I heard Russia might be doing a good thing towards this current corrupt government leader's.

Using the pandemic for opportunities that wouldn't have a chance without is again is corruption. When you use a pandemic for opportunities they will base it on the agenda not the health of us individually.

Rant over lol.



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Originally Posted by MikePal

Example: Today's headline

Russian lawmakers approve prison for anyone spreading 'fake' reports on Ukraine war

(understanding it's the government who decides what is 'Fake' news. )

Surely even the staunchest Liberal mind can see the parallel in principle to what the Village Idiot did with the Truckers....

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The Liberals can recognize the "fake truckers" being composed of many far right conspiracy groups and individuals from the get go.

If you have downloaded tracking app's on your phone, been on face book for years, have a Visa card, is this all a Liberal conspiracy.

One would have thought that the Conservative freedom fighters when in office for 11 years would have saved us all. LOL

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Would misleading information come government and cdc withholding information is a form of misinformation.

When governments get to pick what the public gets to know on the information it want you to know is corruption.

So the big guys can manipulate the people.


I heard Russia might be doing a good thing towards this current corrupt government leader's.

Using the pandemic for opportunities that wouldn't have a chance without is again is corruption. When you use a pandemic for opportunities they will base it on the agenda not the health of us individually.

Rant over lol.



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Funny how all the Wuflu conspiracies came true, even this was a conspiracy theory a year ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...Uo3-_fGvygIyiA so I have to ask, who are the real conspiracy theorists and what makes them so gullible to propaganda and blind to the truth?

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Originally Posted by GloHole

Funny how all the Wuflu conspiracies came true, even this was a conspiracy theory a year ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...Uo3-_fGvygIyiA so I have to ask, who are the real conspiracy theorists and what makes them so gullible to propaganda and blind to the truth?

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"I am not a Canadian but let me speak on behalf of them at 3.04 minutes"

No thanks Bud I think I will speak for myself. LOL

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

The Liberals can recognize the "fake truckers" being composed of many far right conspiracy groups and individuals from the get go.

If you have downloaded tracking app's on your phone, been on face book for years, have a Visa card, is this all a Liberal conspiracy.

One would have thought that the Conservative freedom fighters when in office for 11 years would have saved us all. LOL

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Back to blaming Harper I see. yawn https://tnc.news/2022/03/04/gofundme...eZ0rmxisBDTJYU

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Originally Posted by GloHole

Back to blaming Harper I see. yawn https://tnc.news/2022/03/04/gofundme...eZ0rmxisBDTJYU

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Not suspired your yawing you obviously slept through those trade deals.

https://canadians.org/analysis/harpe...anada-31-years

https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/...hina-continue/

I can post a lot more links, just ask my friend.............

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Not suspired your yawing you obviously slept through those trade deals.

https://canadians.org/analysis/harpe...anada-31-years

https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/...hina-continue/

I can post a lot more links, just ask my friend.............

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The point is this really isn't a partisan issue "they're all in this together" it's global so let's not get distracted or the topic derailed. I thought I was comrade what happened now I'm friend?

While I agree with the fact it's going to be almost impossible to not have our lives surveilled by technology, the use of the data collected is the bigger issue.

The info below comes from our Federal Government website and details how China is using the data to control not just civilians but business to ensure that they stay in line with the government goals, etc. The people and business deemed to be non compliant are then 'Blacklisted"...

from: https://www.canada.ca/en/security-in...sequences.html

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The function of social credit in the CCP’s management methodology is to automate ‘individual responsibility’, a concept according to which each citizen upholds social stability and national security. Social credit would automate responsibility by using technology to improve the depth of cooperative and coercive tactics that the Party-state uses to maintain social and political control. The objective of implementing individual responsibility is not simply to identify ‘irresponsibility’ and punish it, such as through a social credit blacklisting system. The objective is also to prevent irresponsible decision-making by encouraging, either through cooperative or coercive means, responsible decision-making. More specifically, social credit is designed to create ‘trust’. Trust is not simply a construct that improves the reliability of individual and business social and business transactions. Trust also means that a person or business is deemed worthy to continue to uphold the Chinese Communist Party. The reward, in simplified terms, is their continued participation in and benefiting from the Party-state’s economic and social development.

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Like private credit scores, a person's social score can move up and down depending on their behavior.
The exact methodology is a secret — but examples of infractions include bad driving, smoking in non-smoking zones, buying too many video games, and posting fake news online, specifically about terrorist attacks or airport security.

Other potential punishable offenses include spending too long playing video games, wasting money on frivolous purchases, and posting on social media.

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You or your kids could also miss out on the best jobs and schools — seventeen people who refused to carry out military service in 2017 were barred from enrolling in higher education, applying for high school, or continuing their studies, Beijing News reported.

And in July of 2018, a Chinese university denied an incoming student his spot because the student's father had a bad social credit score for failing to repay a loan.

You could also get your dog taken away. The eastern Chinese city of Jinan started enforcing a social credit system for dog owners in 2017, whereby pet owners get points deducted if the dog is walked without a leash or causes public disturbances.

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A lot more info here: https://www.businessinsider.com/chin...plained-2018-4

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

The Liberals can recognize the "fake truckers" being composed of many far right conspiracy groups and individuals from the get go.

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Just like Putin can recognize a western spy in every Russian citizen who is protesting then war

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The social credit score is to create trust lol.

Wow will the government be getting a score as well.low score out the door they go lol.



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Originally Posted by newbiehunter

Just like Putin can recognize a western spy in every Russian citizen who is protesting then war

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Putin is going to have a very hard time explaining the number of body bags comin home from a peace keeping mission. An even harder time when his entire economy is in ruins.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Putin is going to have a very hard time explaining the number of body bags comin home from a peace keeping mission. An even harder time when his entire economy is in ruins.

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I completely agree with you
On the other hand Tredope has a very good excuse for ruining the economy - truckers and Putin. The most amazing thing is with most left thinkers will actually believe him [emoji1787][emoji1787]

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SHHHHH>>>>>don't expose or tell people what is really happening....shhhhh….

ummmmm….they just did by seizing GiveSendGo and GO Fund ME...please empowered the banks to seize via government order individuals bank account who have not been convicted of any crime....you VAX status is public verified on app, your drivers, OHIP, digital ID are all subject to be being turned ON/OFF currently.

Bill C-10 died on election and has been brought back worse as C-11, C-12 Terrorism financial act - had inclusions to ban crowd source funding included under EMA - permanently - S-223, the list goes on and on in the suppression and growth of the digital social credit implemtation…

And yet...people are distracted by "New War"

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

I understand the fear coming from this kind of theory. But I believe in a democratic situation it would be much more difficult to implement this kind of system. Phone apps, bank transactions and social media posts have been “go to” tracking tools for a while now. Smart devices do listen in on conversations and technology is a double edged sword. But it would be a very hard sell for a government to openly program a social credit system on a freedom loving society. Our armies and police have freedom of thought and are not indoctrinated like China and Russia.

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Correct...yes correct...

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Originally Posted by GloHole

It's being pushed through as we speak bill C11 and C36, they will be able to fine or imprison you for your thoughts, look them up. Right now the WHO is trying to pass a treaty that will give them and their partner the U.N. sole control over your country and the world for what the deem a world health risk, don't forget they recently changed the definition of a pandemic to fit the narrative of the one that just passed. Back in 2018 Bill Gates in an interview said that there would be two pandemics and repeated it again this January. Ukraine is/was home to 15 bioweapons labs Kazkhstan had one and is the new home of the NWO with all their Masonic infrastructure in place. Digital ID is already here if you don't believe in conspiracy theories now would be a good time to start. Noah was a conspiracy theorist and then it began to rain, I'm sure you know the rest of the story.

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A satirical look at the truth about Klaus and the WEF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3nWyoQ5CQ