PCP Pellet guns

PCP (PreCharged Pneumatic) Pellet gun selection is rapidly increasing.
Shopping for a new break action but PCP pellet guns appears to be the direction the sport is going too.
Would prefer keeping it simple with a break action but would also like the best accuracy possible.
They are suppose to be more accurate, consistent shooting and less noise.
Is a shame can't air charge them from a regular air compressor. My garage air compressor red lines at 125psi, PCP guns need near 3000psi.

Does anyone have experience with PCP pellet guns, and what is your opinion on it compared to a break action?
Interested in comments on how and when you air charge your pellet gun.
Do they need the air pressure bled out when storing?

My friend has a Pyramyd Air gun in .25 cal. Incredibly sub MOA accurate and really packs a bunch. He's cleanly killed raccoons, beaver, and porkies with one shot to the head. He bought a used scuba tank off kijji to make filling easy. The gun also came with a hand pump. He keeps it charged all the time. Has had it now for about 3 years with no issues like leaking seals, etc. I'll find out what make and model he has.

His gun is a S510 Air Arms XS Superlite sporter in .25 cal. It's about $2K for the gun. There is a distributer in Toronto.

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Originally Posted by Big Tuna

PCP (PreCharged Pneumatic) Pellet gun selection is rapidly increasing.
Shopping for a new break action but PCP pellet guns appears to be the direction the sport is going too.
Would prefer keeping it simple with a break action but would also like the best accuracy possible.
They are suppose to be more accurate, consistent shooting and less noise.
Is a shame can't air charge them from a regular air compressor. My garage air compressor red lines at 125psi, PCP guns need near 3000psi.

Does anyone have experience with PCP pellet guns, and what is your opinion on it compared to a break action?
Interested in comments on how and when you air charge your pellet gun.
Do they need the air pressure bled out when storing?

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OMG,my SCUBA tanks are filled to 3000psi. I know nothing about the new generation of air guns. Maybe,I should check them out.

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Originally Posted by Fenelon

His gun is a S510 Air Arms XS Superlite sporter in .25 cal. It's about $2K for the gun. There is a distributer in Toronto.

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In Stock:

https://www.airgunsource.ca/us/air-a...al-walnut.html

You can buy a yong heng compressor that can fill up 3000 psi also. I use one to fill up a scuba tank also, but I like to fill up my gun directly with compressor. This is probably one of the cheapest ones you can buy. Air arms makes good air guns and fx air guns are good also. I was told you need to leave the guns full of air to keep the o rings sealed properly.


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And some pcp guns can shoot slugs now. So you can get longer range out of a airgun if you wanted, or to shoot bigger game.


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One of the main benefits of a PCP is they are mostly repeaters, either bolt action or with a side lever with the odd semi thrown in. I don't believe they are inherently more accurate than a break barrel. The downside is up front cost and filling and the cost associated with filling. Generally the guns are more money although you can get a pretty good one for around $500. For filling you have a few options. You can get a hand pump (around $250-$300 for a good one), a compressor in conjunction with a SCUBA tank or without a tank or just a tank if you can find a place to have it filled. One major benefit is you can get larger bore rifles that are much cheaper to shoot than powder burners but with shorter range. I'm talking anywhere from .25 calibre to .50. I have a few PCP rifles and a PCP handgun and I love them. I just use a hand pump and for the calibres I shoot, .177 &.22 it works well. If I go bigger, which I'm considering, I will need to get a tank which I can get filled locally. TC

Some interesting reads on PCP guns. Is a shame favored models are out of stock to actually purchase.
Hope that will improve in spring/early summer when new models are typically released to stores.
Same applies to purchasing many of the break actions.

Was surprised to read about PCP Arrow Riles. Operate same as a PCP pellet gun but shoot crossbow bolts.
Would they qualify as a crossbow for Ontario bow season?

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OMG,my SCUBA tanks are filled to 3000psi. I know nothing about the new generation of air guns. Maybe,I should check them out.

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700 ft lbs of energy with the high end big bore models :O

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Was surprised to read about PCP Arrow Riles. Operate same as a PCP pellet gun but shoot crossbow bolts.
Would they qualify as a crossbow for Ontario bow season?

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I wish they would allow use them in X bow season-looked at them few years back at one of the Sportsmans show.
They would be SWEET to use instead of an X bow.

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Originally Posted by Big Tuna

Some interesting reads on PCP guns. Is a shame favored models are out of stock to actually purchase.
Hope that will improve in spring/early summer when new models are typically released to stores.
Same applies to purchasing many of the break actions.

Was surprised to read about PCP Arrow Riles. Operate same as a PCP pellet gun but shoot crossbow bolts.
Would they qualify as a crossbow for Ontario bow season?

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A popular one you can get now is the Umarex Gauntlet. Send me a PM if interested in one. Also the airbows don't shoot crossbow bolts, they have their own arrows. As for hunting it's only small game and maybe coyotes but I'm not sure on that one. TC

Thanks Trky for the offer on the Umarex. I am going to wait till early summer to make a choice.
Still hoping to get a simpler underlever or side lever like a Diana 470TH or 460 Magnum but am getting more and more interested in a PCP after doing daily research.
Hoping new models and Covid supply chain issues will start resolving by summer.
Letting the pigeons get past baby season and then game on again when the whse doors start getting left open on summer days.

You'll never own a "springer" again after you shoot a PCP! There is zero imparted error due to recoil/barrel jump from a PCP. Your accuracy goes through the roof, as in crazy sick accuracy! It's like shooting an Anshutz or Walther .22!

Just a an interesting fact:Lewis and Clark had air rifles back in the day ,discowering Amerca's west coast

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700 ft lbs of energy with the high end big bore models :O

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I built a homemade pneumatic cannon that can be shoulder fired. Based on the thermo-dynamics model i used to design it, it develops about 1700 to 1800 ft-lbs.

Shoots a 2 inch potato slug (+/- 1150 grain) at about 800 to 900 fps (any faster and it becomes difficult to get a potato to stay in one piece - even at that speed typically need hard new potatoes) and at 25 to 30 yards it is minute of deer accurate. Video showing a "low power" shot hitting an 8.5 x 11 sheet with 2x4 backstop:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlUbT...ature=youtu.be

The mist on impact is the potato atomizing.

Damage pic showing potato blew through the 2x4s:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4020aa8f_h.jpg

20 or 25 years ago i used to use it at my kids birthday parties for marshmallow scrambles. Load it with a potato slug to act as wadding and than put half a bag of mini marshmallows in on top of the potato and set the cannon at a 40 degree angle. Than get the kids to stand about 30 or 40 yards out. Fire away and the potato would land a 1/2 mile down range and it would rain marshmallows on the kids.