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It's going through a transition. With any luck it just might revert to what it was meant to be, instead of the World Federation of Sumo Wrestling show.
Agreed!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by alfoldivandor
Summer doldrums. Things will pick up when hunting seasons approach.
There's nothing stopping the remaining users from posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfoldivandor
Personally, I'd rather see fewer, quality posts than the constant bickering and attacks that were going on before.
Exactly! We're shaping up pretty good lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by rf2
If by September the forum will not pick up, and will not keep up strong till the end of the yea(Hunting season in its strongest) the Forum "is indeed dead".Quote:
Originally Posted by canthitathing
Regardless what is the wishful thinking of some( do not take this reply personally please-it was not meant YOU)
It will be a shame-but hey......this is the way it goes.
There is a delicate balance in everything in life:Quote:
Originally Posted by rf2
from :
healthy eating to stay healthy-till eating to enjoy the meal.
from enjoying a good quality wine-till getting drunk.
from buying quality hunting gear-till "hording"unnecessery hunting stuff just because.
Unfortunately ,we lost that much needed balance, in a name of something .
The forum was lively ,because of those many threads!
Yes-there was a bit more of bickering than it may be handled once in a while-but looking back-i think,it was just the nature of the beast.
Some could not handle it-some thrived on it.
Balance.
We lost just about every each profilic member,and we had them a lot.
They were kicked out ,or they left disillusioned.
The remaining us,do post new threads and reply here and there,(but as far as i can see- less then usual).Yet,the "remaining"us were never the big guns for keeping things moving.
Except few current members,but even they are keeping it low....
One thing was missed out in the big scheme of things:
No threads = no forum.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo not dead ! It's only sleeping... that's all. It was wore out by that pandemic nonsense and now that things are getting back to normal the Forum just needed a vacation too. Members come and members go for many reasons but the core members will remain and so shall the Forum.
So breath a little life into it instead of complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfoldivandor
I think we're all a little warn out, a little tired, a little older. Complaining about the members who are gone either through breaking the Forum rules or of their own volition will not bring them back. It's time to move forward.
I do challenge the naysayers to contribute more positive posts. It's not just about the new threads, in the obvious quieter time of the year. There's a wealth of information on this Forum to peruse; a veritable digital library of first-hand knowledge and life-long experience, not just from those who have moved on, but from those who are unfortunately, no longer with us on Earth as we know it. Personally I'd like to see more feedback in the Outdoors News section; these stories are taken directly from the latest edition of OOD and are fresh fodder from Ontario's Hunting, Fishing, and Outdoors forefront.
I like this forum, and find it very helpful. I have learned about different hunting methods, been kept updated on relevant MNR dates, and hopefully along the line helped some other folks out too.
That is not to say that some changes are not needed to keep recruitment up, like anything else there is a an expected useful life of technology and design layouts, even logos have expected life times.
I personally enjoy this forum and would not want to see it come to an end
As OP have said there has been some bickering between members and that will weed themselves out
No difference than hunt camps, I belong to 2 different ones one for moose and one for deer hunting.
We have seen many members come and go and even had to ask a few not come back and that's just how life is either you roll with the punches or give up entirely and I don't give up that easy
The forum is what you make it.
currently 300 guest are viewing the site so there is life.
Thanks to a special few members that continue to contribute content.
Yes there still seem to be a few that are pouting about changes made, hopefully they get over the need to feel vindicated and accept the new norm for the site and get on with sharing their outdoor spirit.
Well said sir, we did lose that much needed balance. In the name of what I what I won't comment on but as we can all see has left us with a quiet board.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
Wait till monday, things will start to pick up again... hopefully.
This lull in activity always happens. Mid Summer, and mid Winter....for some reason the fishing guys don't seem to as prolific....
As far as the folks that are gone...well...
There are lots of places for political discussion...even debate. However, rational discourse on opposing ideas is fast becoming a lost art. Disagreeing with someones principles is not a personal attack, but in fact resorting to insults, and ad-hominem attacks is, and as a very public facing forum, it denigrates us all, and our pursuits.
The forum isn't dead. The tone has changed...it's now where it was a while ago, where it's more outdoors focused once again.
X2 Thanks for that post.Quote:
Originally Posted by rf2
I have tried to post some interesting things and questions in the hunting, fishing and off topic but none seem to get much traffic.
We lost a lot of good people that were very knowledgeable. One that were both on the Left and Right I won't name them but many know who they are.
These "lulls" happen every year. With weather like this,nobody is likely sitting in the house. There's lawns to cut,gardens to tend, fish to catch,varmints to hunt,BBQ's to fire up and backyard beer to drink,not necessarily in that order,either. As for the loss of members and (no doubt) we've lost a ton who used to be quite prolific and entertaining to read,I can't really comment on that not being involved in the political threads where I used to read their posts. I'm very surprised I haven't seen them elsewhere on this forum. I don't quite know what to think about that. Different strokes for different folks.....I guess. Then,again,maybe,I shouldn't be surprised,at all.
greatwhite-it is clear ,that You have tried.Hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Thank you for that.
Some members are-were,more prone to be major contributors.They had more time at hand,interest to participate,this Forum was their "hobby",they strived on a good discussion.They would start threads,post and reply,build relations,they were just-Forum NERDS.
The rest of us-more or less,participate to our "liking",interest and time at hand.
Forum members are human beings without obligations, and they can not be made to be more willing to cooperate with rules, or keep all of their thoughts along the line.
Or they-us,we can not be enticed to start threads,or post ,or reply,just because there is a lack of those.
We do though-when time/interest sparks a start of a thread,or a reply-at least ,so it looks for most of us .
Forum is ,as many things in life - a two way street. People like to have their destination,goals and space on that street,and will veer different ways if they do not see that .
Sad- if no uplift by the end of the hunting season, the OP was right.
Thank You Tigboy 304.........somehow,an old adage comes to mind :those who dare to speak up,care the most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
I'm looking at Page 3 of "This Forum is dead" and it don't look so dead to me.
No it’s not.
So what happened in off topic educate us that oped out of that mess
Every year the forum goes into a semi-hibernation as members go about their "summer" lives, getting stuff done that they have no time for in the fall. Many who hunt will now be out on the water, fishing and looking at new waterfowl opportunities. As September rolls around, the bugs slow down, the blinds get brushed in and the fever takes hold again. I would guess that the vast majority of regular posters do come here daily to read any new posts, but they just do not have anything hunting-related to post so they don't.
Give it a month and the post counts will ratchet back up.
John
This site is so much more than just hunting. Or at least it could be? Fishing, camping, trapping, boating, etc..... I believe lots of possible members may have been too intimidated to come on here and post. I'm hoping once things settle down from the battles that went on, more people will ease their way in and partake.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjyb
935 active users online, and 15 active threads being posted in.
Hardly dead.
I'm still here, I'm not dead unless the wife tells me I can be!!!
As someone who signed on a couple of months ago, I think this board is not dead, but rather, very sick. It doesn’t appeal to me on a number of levels and I am sure I am not alone.
The first is its appearance. The look of the board itself is very clinical - sterile if you will. Blue and white and blocky, like I am standing in a hospital corridor. It is certainly not outdoorsy or appealing to the eye.
There are too many forums. Some need to be eliminated or combined with others as stickys. Covid and a few others in that area should be put in a general area as sticky posts. It would increase traffic to the Off Topic area for example.
Theoretically, Ontario should have a vibrant board, but having so many sections only serves to confuse.
The admins need to go section by section, count to threads, and combine, rearrange or completely eliminate the deadwood.
Traffic flows have to be redirected.
Because sometimes, having too many places to go isn’t worth the bother of exploring.
This is your third post Michael. Pretty early to be complaining. :) 476 users on line right now at 2 in the afternoon ; hardly dead nor "sick".
Wow, 3 whole posts in....Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
Volunteering to be a mod?
Trust me, if you think the adjective is "sick" it was worse.....it was toxic...
I'd say the body in in recovery now that some cancers have been cut out.
Are you a member or administrator on other forums? If so,which one(s)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
The subject line is about the forum being dead. I responded to it. The number of posts I have has nothing to do with my observations.
Good luck to the ones who live in hope that it will get better.
The problem I see is that the ones who complain the forum is dead, sick or what ever are the ones who contribute little to no content and only take from it. For example you started a thread asking for info, great. Several members contributed to the conversation however when asked about your set up nothing but crickets. This forum is what you make it add nothing get nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
I have no desire to get into a fight on an Internet forum. I will say this however. As much as it bothers some people, suggestions should be welcomed, not met with hostility.
I don’t know if the admins can fix the flow problems, but it should help things.
No hostility meant just responding to your observations. If you're saying you don't participate because the forum isn't pretty enough for you not much can be done about that. What has been pointed out is you haven't participated in your own thread so what's up with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
This post kinda reminds me of all the new neighbours that have invaded our little local community this last 3 yrs. Quite an influx of them buying up everything that wasn't nailed down. They were quite happy to move to the north, but now many of them are moaning about the differences of this northern lifestyle, to that of the quagmire they left behind. If they don`t like it here, maybe it`s time to move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
"Like"Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
Double like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
I think it’s hilarious how much traffic he’s got on this thread by saying the forum is dead.
So instead of complaining why not make a contribution? What do you hunt? How do you hunt? What do you fish? What guns interest you? Tell us your best field story? Do you own hunting dogs? What's the funniest hunt you've had? The most meaningful? Upland, big game, fly fishing, trolling (the fishing kind) what's your thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
Pointing out problems is easy. Why not be part of the solution?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
So lets cut him some slack as everyone has the right to their opinion. Hopefully his comment was made in an honest effort to improve the forum in the long run. In the same sentiment hopefully he takes to heart what he can do to improve the forum immediately. in the mean time enjoyQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnciwwsvNcc
Maybe the guy kicked the door in...maybe he meant no harm.
For sure he was rubbed the wrong way for that...if one is asking me.
First-lets mop up the floor with him,then ask clarifying questions.
At the end ,give him suggestions.
I for sure will appreciate the comments to come: Hey,he is a grown up, he should be able to take it!
Heard it more then once.
Yet- WE are not grown ups? To take it, be a bit political,and perhaps listen?
Maybe....... i am just naïve.
Gentlemen, please talk amongst yourselves. I do not believe that most of you want to discuss “This forum is dead”
The point is made.
100% agreed [emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
To mods who get all defensive:
That's why your churn is high and new folks don't really participate..
You can talk about statistics (that users don't see [emoji85]) all you want, but I have been watching this forum for a while and find pretty much the same group of folks chatting (no one new)
I am pretty sure there is a better approach to handle a new guy who makes a genuine suggestion
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Sorry if the mods may seem to come off as defensive, its not, more like shock and awe that put forth the solution to more active participation is a total forum overhaul to make it look more pretty. When in reality as the member put forth all that is need is..Quote:
Originally Posted by newbiehunter
If all members new and old would quit their complaining and just did the above you'd see much more activity. For those that just sit back and take from the forum continue to do so that's just fine, just don't whine about it then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Most fishing and hunting forums have seen a decline in activity in recent years . Lots are using the Facebook groups .
I'll stay here and other forums never mind that Facebook garbage lol.
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I am glad your staying now we can start arguing again . LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
That’s the fun of it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Gotta give you credit Gilly. Your opinions are always wrong, but you stay in the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
I have followed a number of forums ( photography, cars, motorcycles, aviation and more) over the past number of years and have noted that participation has gone way down due to reasons that have been listed. I am grateful that this forum is still ALIVE and mostly well. As for the Mods - keep up the good work and let's keep it going. P.S. A forum does not have to be pretty to be a good forum.
rodmcd
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
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Welcome to the forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
You make some valid points imo.
Nothing wrong analyzing status quo and making positive changes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
So lets look at the suggestionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Deer Hunter
Guess the adage don't judge a book by its cover comes to mind. I personally spend very little time looking at the cover page. Hit the new post button and catch up on the latest post. After which move to forum of interest for topic specific conversation. Investing in curb appeal won't make lurkers participate more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
Some asked for more forums such as a Outdoors foraging forum. One would have to ask what outdoor forum would you eliminate? Everyone in the outdoors have different levels of participation at different times of the year. Having all the current forums serve most of the hunting and fishing community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
Making something a sticky post would eliminate possibility of discussing the nuances of that forum and would turn it into an unfocused free for all. As a forum members can post threads for specific discussion and enable better and coherent communication.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
As a recent member you may not be aware the problem the off topic area has been. After much strife its finally gotten to the point where discussions are more civil. Quite honestly its a section of the forum that had been looked at eliminating however its value as a catch all for things that might pollute the other forums keeps it around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
Never met an outdoors person say they can't be bother to explore their surroundings. The buffet of forums should keep any and all outdoors people engaged and entertained throughout the different seasons and year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
So having your suggestion assessed what about addressing other's suggestions?
One should give as good as they expect to take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
and FYI not judging, defensive, or combative. Just a bit of point counter point.
I use Tapatalk I don't even know what the main page looks like lol. It's set to new post haha.
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I appreciate you being civil, but I doubt that this conversation is going anywhere. There have been a handful of posts on this board today. Much like in the few days since I posted in this thread. I find that odd, considering the number of board members and it's the weekend. There is something wrong, but neither you nor I has the power to change things.Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
It has nothing to do with answering your questions. If you are genuinely concerned, you should move it up the chain to the admins.
With that, I will wish the few who frequent this board a good week. To the admins and mods, I hope you figure things out.
You do have the power to change things. By just answering the questions asked would of generated a dozen posts and sparked conversations to boot. It seems you don't have the will to make this a better forum for which Admin can't fix. All they can do is provide a functional chat space. So lets not worry why others don't post and focus on why I don't post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
So with that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
One has to question intent.
Why are you here? You have contributed nothing of note on other topics.
You create a new account. ( Using a writing style similar to another banned member), and then choose to drop in, passive aggressively make some suggestions, and then bow out?
Sorry, your intentions are suspect. That is the reason for the reaction you have received.
H-m-m-m,now that you mention it,these posts do seem a tad familiar,don't they? It should be fairly easy to find out. Have at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
Thank you for contributing to this thread, Michael10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael10
A couple of considerations for you:
As the by-product of a magazine that's been in circulation for over fifty years, we do carry a preference and bias for a white page. Having our Forum as such makes it easier to to convey the content we're trying to convey, without confusion or eyestrain. However, an individual can download internet skins on their own end, to personalize their own set-up to their liking.
The Forum itself has also been around a long time. If we start mass pruning or deleting or combining threads, we'd be putting at risk all of the links and comments from members over the years that we heartily value. Sometimes a seemingly simple solution can have dire consequences. Minimalism would put at risk decades of valuable member feedback. Just last week I was emailed by a member who was reporting a broken thread they were trying to access, though I was unable to restore it because it had been altered. Also one could argue that combining sections would make matters more confusing for members seeking out niche information.
No one is going to be grooming the Forum in the way you're describing, for the sake of aesthetic. We're all explorers, here. :)
Thank you again for your feedback.
Busy thread! :)
18 out from 61 posts(almost 30%) are made up from the authorities though.Quote:
Originally Posted by TroutSlayer
Regardless of the inns and outs of that-hardly we can say, the members traffic is so great.
Yup but as the old saying goes you can lead the horse to water but you can't make 'em drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
The lack of member post lays solely on those members that don't post. The members that are active in the forum none have posted complaints.
I guess the simplicity of the idea of a forum is lost on some people. Thank you OOD for providing a place where like minded people can get together and chat about the outdoors.
You get what you put in.
You can’t force introverts to post.
There is still a great wealth of info here.
If you got nothing better to do but complain, maybe try setting up your own online forum.
Thanks Birdbuff, well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdbuff
We are looking into his multiple accounts now.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
I decided yesterday to revisit this forum after an almost 10 year hiatus, lol!!
I was poking around and this was one of the first threads to come up :| I hope this forum isn't dead? I really did enjoy what I got from it when I was active on it, including meeting a ton of people, outings to learn from and have fun enjoying the outdoors with friendly strangers, some who became friends and consistent fishing and/or hunting partners, etc. Of course, life got in the way in the early stages of having kids, so I cleaned up my profile on this forum and took a hiatus, having to focus on the family. I stayed active with my outdoors activities, but much more sparsely because the first few years are non-stop with the kids for lack of a better term.
I'm finally over that hump of parenthood and have way more time to get back into things more consistently, even including getting the kids involved in more serious pursuits. So, I thought it might be a good time to re-join the chatter on the forum, even if just to keep up on things. I just hope it really isn't dead!
Welcome back. As always this forum is what you make it. Dive in share a bit and get caught up.
sure looks like its headed that way, i wasnt on here for about a year, with things going on at home and switching jobs twice just didnt have any mental power to do anything at the end of the day lol. i came back and it seems like we lost a few more regulars as well. well see what happens anyways. im on a couple facebook groups but hell are they toxic lol.
Many of older members have passed away. Unfortunately,Father Time awaits no one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
I wish it was that simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Birdbuff
Should be about the outdoors but tends to wonder off topic to politics far too often.
I agree 100%, always have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
I think that problem has been cured for the most partQuote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
One of the most vibrant of all forums on this site,the last entry in F&P was in August 2023. There's been nothing since. It's sure been cured......for the most part.:moose::moose:Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
I for one do not think this forum is dead. I do think it was quite sick there for a while but I believe that its health is improving. Now it is up to all OOD Forum members to get back to participating and bring it back to life.
I also think the Mod Squad has done a pretty good job but I urge them to tread carefully and not use too heavy of a hand. It is just too easy to alienate people in this day and age.
Finally, yes a lot of older members have sadly passed on. If we have a strong,vibrant forum new, younger members will join up.
rodmcd
That's the other thing, I don't use Facebook either :| I guess that's where most people go now to connect with people?
This came up many times in the past. Sounds very convincing, but far from fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodmcd
As far as many members passed..........
We have lost "maybe" 10 members in the past 10 years-they may rest in piece!
A whole lot more are missing.........
Old members,"older"people,so no Facebook "issue" with them.............the ones that were here,and contributing.Many-a lot.
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Others are banned or simply left.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
I heard gw got the boot lol.
I'm close if my social credit scores don't recover lol.
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Good Morning
I left this for a while to think on it. I still cannot understand why asking members to get back to participating is "far from fair" Can anyone explain why? I was just thinking of the future and trying get together (the members we do have) and try to make the forum alive and relevant again so that "new younger members will join" and take us into the future.
Maybe I am missing something - I do usually check out the forum early in the morning with my first cup of coffee and my brain is not at full speed yet.
Thanks
rodmcd
Morning Rod-enjoy your coffee this lovely morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by rodmcd
Not asking members ..........but putting squarely the onus on members to make this forum live again.
You are here for a long time,if you look back .....you will see .
Morning Again
I think I am awake now and thought I would check in one more time before going out. I'm good with anything that works so I think we are on the same wave length. Just have to be careful when trying to make people do something rather then having them want to do it. BTW Every morning is a lovely morning. Enjoy it.
Now how long have I said that.. it's to lefty to live in a firearms world
Not complaining! It's Sunday morning and it seemed to take forever to make it through all the new posts today. Mind you I do look and mostly read almost all new posts but it gave me hope in that things are picking up.
rodmcd
Its not a firearms world that is only your perception of the world. Your on a hunting and fishing forum and firearms are a small component in what is discussed here. I am sure there are lots of firearms, gunQuote:
Originally Posted by standup
forums that would satisfy your needs. I can see you being upset on what you view as a GUN OUTDOOR FORUM where you get free grammer lessons. LOL
Testing failed lol.
cn32226-eng.pdf
Anyway that's the pdf file number from public safety Canada and the failed experiment on gun Control posted in 2003. I was just trying to figure out how to send a pdf file you can copy and past that and it will take you there.
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I just took some time and read this thread, it’s changed greatly since it was run by Ray Blades and later Jay Callaghan both of whom I had the pleasure of meeting in person. Jay accompanied us to White Lake one year.
We had get togethers like the couple that Auger organized on Gull Lake. We didn’t catch a lot of fish, but a good time was had by all.
Woody1948 organized the White Lake trips that a few of us still go. On those trips I got to meet the likes of Woody1948, Big Jack, Captain Cotton, Big Daddy, Cantcatchacold, Blue Ice, Screwbs, Spoolrunner, Big Mac. I still hunt with FJB. Some people were on the fishing forum, some were on the hunting forum others were on both.
Some of those I still keep contact with through Facebook, Messenger, Instagram … .
The only one I ever met from this forum who I know has passed was Lurch and that’s over 10 years now. Wayne was a great guy.
The rise and fall of this forum has been cyclical and gotten out of hand at times causing people to leave and form other forums of which there were a few, many of those forums have faded into obscurity, but this one has always seemed to find a way to survive. Many people from the past have left because they grew tired of some of the fighting.
I remember when Jay was in charge he started a special thread for politics. Although some of you may not like it, in certain instances it has a direct effect on hunting and fishing on both the provincial and federal levels. Even OFAH who run this forum get involved in politics. I believe in fighting to keep my rights against beaucrats who choose to try and take them away. Unfortunately, not everyone is as passionate.
After a time people became fed up with the trolls (ie. Jamie) constant fighting and overreach by a few of the Mods.
This forum is only as good as the people who take the time to post in it and help others who have questions no matter how trivial.
I came into the forum last night for the first time in years and was surprised my account was still active. Out of curiosity I decided to look around only to find it’s a far cry from its hay day.
It would be nice to see it return to its former glory, but only the members can do that.
Roe+
Excellent post and I am glad you took the time to take the time to put it up. "Only the members can do that" is the perfect ending. Thanks.
rodmcd
Just finished my morning run through of OOD and it seemed to take a lot longer then it has in a long time. I did not count the number of posts I read but it sure did not look like the forum was dead. Nice to see.
On a side note I sure do miss seeing pictures posted for items being sold - a direct result of the difficulty in posting photos.
rodmcd
Good post and basically sums up what has caused the demise of the forum and its not going to get any better, but we are back to sunny ways otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roe+