Why We Need The Public To Be Better Educated About Firearms

Woman whose cousin died after he was shot by a beanbag gun says, “Beanbag guns need to be declared firearms or a lethal weapon." Canadian Press - [COLOR=var(--neutral-foreground-rest)]Family of man who died after Vancouver police beanbag shooting seeks inquest

No kidding, all a beanbag gun is a shotgun adapted for easy recognition to be used in police work, with ammunition designed to shoot beanbags. The beanbags are simply light birdshot enveloped in a special bag to contain it, and fire a lower velocity. The gun is already classed a firearm, that when used on a person makes it a weapon. From this article, it's pretty clear, why there is a call for more gun control ever time there is a shooting. It's a problem, that results from a basic public ignorance about firearms.

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I don't think the public will ever change their perception of firearms in a positive way, that we firearm owners would like. In fact, it will get worse. One just has to look at the way society has changed during the last 100 yrs, it's not going to do a complete about face in our favour.

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I don't think the public will ever change their perception of firearms in a positive way, that we firearm owners would like. In fact, it will get worse. One just has to look at the way society has changed during the last 100 yrs, it's not going to do a complete about face in our favour.

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Perhaps, but it’s still worth trying.

I didn’t see or read article?
Unfortunately, firearms classification awareness aside, the public only sees a dead person caused by a firearm.

As long as there's a liberal-leftist partisan press,positive firearm ownership information will always be suppressed. Long ago,they learned that to control an agenda,first,you must control the message. That over-riding principle they adhere to is right out of Karl Marx's "The Communist Manifesto". It's been the mainstay of every oppressive regime ever since.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

As long as there's a liberal-leftist partisan press,positive firearm ownership information will always be suppressed. Long ago,they learned that to control an agenda,first,you must control the message. That over-riding principle they adhere to is right out of Karl Marx's "The Communist Manifesto". It's been the mainstay of every oppressive regime ever since.

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I can't say i have read the entire Marx manifesto but i have certainly skimmed it. My take is that Marx makes the observation that those in power use the media to control narratives. He is right about that but can't say i ever read anywhere that he thought that was okay or advocated adhering to that principle - could be wrong but i have yet to come across that.

Our liberal leftists actually have very little in common with Karl Marx. For the record i have little use for Marx or the liberals but Marx was 100% against elites which is in stark contrast to today's liberals. And also for the record Marx was all for guns in the hands of the common people. This is a quote that in recent years has been attributed to Reagan but was actually made by Marx in 1850:

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"

More to this story.
Man dies after being shot by police six times with beanbag gun?

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6570375
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6560809

Education alone is insufficient to address firearms-related issues, and more stringent gun control laws are insufficient to reduce gun violence effectively. Guys, education should be left just to law enforcement agencies. Moreover, I read the book "More Guns, Less Crime" by John R. Lott Jr. and would analyze it. I took out the trash! "Spam deleted" .I found experts who helped me write my literature review for me so I could better understand the message and themes. Education may change society's mind in a day. Still, I suppose what can influence us today is undoubtedly such a high-quality service of writing that provides reliable information.

I personally think more public involvement needs to be done.

The media was using it a few years ago said ,they were tired of treating gun shot victims. They don't explain that the majority are smuggled firearms so banning the handgun in Canada would not improve their situation by any significance.

Just more misleading information from our own government.

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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? Doesn't the public get enough education about firearms by watching all those "shoot em up, bang, bang" movies ?

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I personally think more public involvement needs to be done.

The media was using it a few years ago said ,they were tired of treating gun shot victims. They don't explain that the majority are smuggled firearms so banning the handgun in Canada would not improve their situation by any significance.

Just more misleading information from our own government.

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Can't really blame the government. People want a solution and the government will always go after the low hanging fruit too show they've done something without actually doing anything. Its up to the opposition to provide alternative options, arguments and solutions. Instead of arguing an emphatic no to bans submitting cost benefit analysis too the government plan and proposing a plan of the own might give the public cause to consider their options. At the moment we have two sides back and forthing ban /no ban with nothing improving for anyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QLzrb5V8Zk

Note this was conducted in primarily Liberal Party strongholds,yet,they had this result and still posted it. Strange,eh?

A ding dong I work with thought guns come pre-loaded.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QLzrb5V8Zk

Note this was conducted in primarily Liberal Party strongholds,yet,they had this result and still posted it. Strange,eh?

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Sure they would post it, was I not featured on this video at 5.30minutes from Victoria. Did you like my hat. LOL

I think it was a highly politicised video with a Citizen standing under a "HUNTER RIVER SIGN" at 3.50 minutes from Charlottetown. He,he.

Good video and shows the true transparency of the Liberal party of Canada.

It is our government pushing the idea that if we take our guns away then the crime will go down. When in reality smuggled guns are the primary cause of the problems. The doctors pleaded and said they were tired of fixing up bullet wounds. Our ban will stop 1 in 5 shootings. That's the reality.

The public is misinformed

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Like I said already a lot of the public are gun educated via action movies and/or the atrocities of war going on in the world by watching the news. True ... firearms were developed as a military weapon but quickly found useful in obtaining food and of course protection from predators and proved invaluable in the making of our nation. We have advanced our game laws and gun laws as it was needed and have a very good safety record as far as accidental shootings go. So if we don't speak up now and educate the public properly instead of letting those with the glassy eyes scream into the cameras that all guns are evil and must be destroyed we will be sowing our own defeat. We should keep in mind that many new Canadians are here because someone pointed a gun at them but let us not dismiss the criminal element that flaunts our weak laws regarding their use of such. Most reasonable people would agree it's only fair to punish the guilty and not the innocent.

The average citizen doesn’t have the attention span, time, energy, patience, and desire to learn much of anything about critical issues - including firearms. For these reasons, people are easily manipulated… all it takes is a sound bite or a slick 30 second commercial to sway public opinion.

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The average citizen doesn’t have the attention span, time, energy, patience, and desire to learn much of anything about critical issues - including firearms. For these reasons, people are easily manipulated… all it takes is a sound bite or a slick 30 second commercial to sway public opinion.

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100% correct
look at Covid there are still people out there wearing masks lining up to get boosters when all the facts are right in front of them no matter what this corrupt government says

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100% correct
look at Covid there are still people out there wearing masks lining up to get boosters when all the facts are right in front of them no matter what this corrupt government says

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Mmmmmmmm ? Both the Fed's (Liberal) and the Provincial ( PC's) agreed on the health care strategy to safeguard it's citizens. I never use to get Flu shots until my first year of retirement approx. 6 years ago when I had it at Xmas time. I do not want to go through that Hell again if I can help it ! Now I get whatever shot will give me an edge over not getting sick and frankly... if more people washed their hands and wore masks during Flu season the better !

Ooooops ! Straying from OP. Like I said ; Lock up the bad guys and throw away the key !