Ukraine

So with the depleted uranium storage facility
Being blown up radioactive material is being detected.

Are they downplaying the risks of radioactive dust in the area? One report says they don't need to worry about it and war is more important. They also pointed out that the chernobyl was 4 to 30 times worse. In another article posted last year the west would cover up the potential threats to reduce the panic of a nuclear fallout.

Who's at fault if it causes wide spead cancer and radioactive dust over the growing lands.?
I guess the western world brough it in to Ukraine Russia is just blowing up the western backed supplies.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-ukraine-putin

https://slovenia.postsen.com/world/1...necessary.html

The question is do they worry or not as radioactive material floats throught the air. The iodine pills are running out.

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Depleted Uranium is used on everything military now. Ammo, tank coatings etc. it has been since the 1980's.

All over the place in Iraq from that war. They say no real radiation. I would be 1 million times more worried about the nuclear reactor.

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So with the depleted uranium storage facility
Being blown up radioactive material is being detected.

Are they downplaying the risks of radioactive dust in the area? One report says they don't need to worry about it and war is more important. They also pointed out that the chernobyl was 4 to 30 times worse. In another article posted last year the west would cover up the potential threats to reduce the panic of a nuclear fallout.

Who's at fault if it causes wide spead cancer and radioactive dust over the growing lands.?
I guess the western world brough it in to Ukraine Russia is just blowing up the western backed supplies.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-ukraine-putin

https://slovenia.postsen.com/world/1...necessary.html

The question is do they worry or not as radioactive material floats throught the air. The iodine pills are running out.

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Alpha particles don't have enough energy to go through skin. As a result, exposure to the outside of the body is not considered a serious hazard. However, if DU is ingested or inhaled, it is a serious health hazard. Alpha particles directly affect living cells and can cause kidney damage.

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Alpha particles don't have enough energy to go through skin. As a result, exposure to the outside of the body is not considered a serious hazard. However, if DU is ingested or inhaled, it is a serious health hazard. Alpha particles directly affect living cells and can cause kidney damage.

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That's the issue how much dust was created by the explosion? The dust falling back down from the explosion was massive. How much depleted uranium shells exploded.

Not a place I'd like to be.
Look at the issues other places are having where they used these shells in the battlefield. Birth defects and cancer is on the rise in Iraq where it was used in the past.



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Depleted Uranium is not as radioactive like enriched uranium. These types of shells were primarily used by the British and US forces and only in Iraq. The dust will not have an affect across the world. Chernobyl was way worse and doesn't even compare.

I think it was the British that gave Ukraine Depleted Uranium rounds.



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7903104/

Still I would be more worried about the Nuke plant blowing up or Russia using nuclear bombs.

The shells would be unlikely to make a radioactive cloud. I guess possible. I would imagine to make a cloud as described (which was never proven in the article) You would need every single round from the US and Britain.

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The shells would be unlikely to make a radioactive cloud. I guess possible. I would imagine to make a cloud as described (which was never proven in the article) You would need every single round from the US and Britain.

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Here's a short at first they reported it be a fuel depot then said it was their depleted uranium storage facility.

If uranium dust is in that cloud they have some problems they did admit that there was an uptick in the levels. Comparing chernobyl as 4 to 30 worse is an addmition of a problem. Even if chernobyl was 4 times worse than the current event it could still lead to problems.

They need to hurry up and figure out a solution to end this war. It's polluting to much fuel depots burning gas pipe explosion leaking millions of tons of methane into the air and not a peep about it lol.

https://youtube.com/shorts/lh1upmf62jM?feature=share




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Yup tall Putin to retreat and problem solved

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Yup tall Putin to retreat and problem solved

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Then what about Zelensky he was brought in with a promise to end the war. Killed their own citizens when he ordered a missle strike months before putin started his military operation.

The camps in Ukraine were training kids to hate and fight the Russians before the special military operation began.

What about the thousands of lives lost over the years of fighting before he invaded.

Can Zelensky keep Russian unkrainians safe in his country?

These must be added in to conversation as it wasn't just one side who fueled the fires.







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Russia attacked for no reason, Even Putin now admits. There were no hidden biological secret testing areas no weapons of mass destruction. Remember Ukraine gave up Nukes on the Promise Russia would never invade.

To be honest Ukraine has now weakened Russia so much I personally think the should invade Russia.

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Then what about Zelensky he was brought in with a promise to end the war. Killed their own citizens when he ordered a missle strike months before putin started his military operation.

The camps in Ukraine were training kids to hate and fight the Russians before the special military operation began.

What about the thousands of lives lost over the years of fighting before he invaded.

Can Zelensky keep Russian unkrainians safe in his country?

These must be added in to conversation as it wasn't just one side who fueled the fires.







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To be honest Ukraine has now weakened Russia so much I personally think the should invade Russia.

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Nato invade? That means world War 3 Ukraine is fighting to its last fighter soon they will all be gone.

Remember what the Russians sacrificed during the last war ?

Not sure about weakening them Russia economic growth is set to be bigger than Germany. The brics nations will be better off than the g7 for economic growth. 19 new countries are showing interest in joining the brics nations last updated April 26th more are joining and more talks every day about new countries wanting to abandon the US dollar. When we look at the bigger picture the east will soon be bigger than the west . When we fall and we are falling who do you thing will be come out on top? The World Economic Forum already has its predictions and they are working with government's to achieve their goals. Their board of trustee's members already planned to biuld back.
Something we shouldn't ignore.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Russia attacked for no reason, Even Putin now admits. There were no hidden biological secret testing areas no weapons of mass destruction. Remember Ukraine gave up Nukes on the Promise Russia would never invade.

To be honest Ukraine has now weakened Russia so much I personally think the should invade Russia.

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So what is the ultimate purpose behind war? A while back I came to the idea, in part fuel by George Orwell's book "1984" that the ultimate purpose of war is to control human population numbers, fundamentally because the governments that manage countries are not prepare to take any initiative to set limits on human procreation, So the solution is to let those who want to overbreed our specie and destroy our planet by exhausting its resource and living space, Simply kill off each other for the privilege of having the freedom and liberty to procreate at will. Therefore, there is always a reason for war. Had it not been for the wars at the beginning of the last century we would have been in the present situation we are now, back in 1984. In a way Orwell was prophetic his date may have been out, but alas he spoke to the issue of of unrestraint over population.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut.

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So what is the ultimate purpose behind war? A while back I came to the idea, in part fuel by George Orwell's book "1984" that the ultimate purpose of war is to control human population numbers, fundamentally because the governments that manage countries are not prepare to take any initiative to set limits on human procreation, So the solution is to let those who want to overbreed our specie and destroy our planet by exhausting its resource and living space, Simply kill off each other for the privilege of having the freedom and liberty to procreate at will. Therefore, there is always a reason for war. Had it not been for the wars at the beginning of the last century we would have been in the present situation we are now, back in 1984. In a way Orwell was prophetic his date may have been out, but alas he spoke to the issue of of unrestraint over population.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut.

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The uk government thinks if you quote Orwell 1984 you are an extremists or an enemy of the state.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/cs-lew...errorism-group



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The uk government thinks if you quote Orwell 1984 you are an extremists or an enemy of the state.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/cs-lew...errorism-group



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“Other authors whose work is allegedly shared by people sympathetic with "the far-right and Brexit" also reportedly include Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, Edmund Burke, Thomas Carlyle, Adam Smith and William Shakespeare.”

I’d have to wonder how they missed Ayn Rand. It would appear that they can’t seem to handle criticism aimed at their bottom line, and their incompetent management practices, which fail to establish a balance between population numbers and the levels of available resources and public services. Unfortunately Orwell’s “Big Brother seeking to control every aspect of our lives is an over reach of Orwell’s “Big Brothers” whose fundamental purpose was to ensure that the earth’s temperate zone was to remain relatively sterile reducing the need for having wars to keep population numbers in check. In the meantime in “1984" the equatorial zone population could breed unchecked and wars continued to rage to provide something of a check on population expansion. Orwell was simply attempting to demonstrate that economic controls were not sufficient to hold down population numbers. As things have turned out he was correct. Worst still, global warming or climate chance has fueling immigration and migration out of the earth’s equatorial zone into the temperate zone, placing huge pressures upon resources and public services that were already over burden .

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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A successful test last year. Could it be the cuase of the worst disaster that Zelensky said has happened in more than 900 years.??

Last year they used himars to punch holes in a metal floodgates in an attempt to slow a Russian advancement. It was to flood the waters but not enough to ruin nearby village's . Posted last year but quick to blame putin for this disaster to an area they have held for more than a year. Near by towns are run by Russian mayor's.

A post from last year about the test but it's way down the article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...erson-donetsk/

"Kovalchuk considered flooding the river. The Ukrainians, he said, even conducted a test strike with a HIMARS launcher on one of the floodgates at the Nova Kakhovka dam, making three holes in the metal to see if the Dnieper’s water could be raised enough to stymie Russian crossings but not flood nearby villages."


Just like they drew up their own income pipe line that they investigated and held the information because we know it wasn't putin haha.

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So what's up with the counter offensive can we discuss the failure yet ?

Been 2 months and it's not going as they said it would. Maybe if they told the truth about the entire thing they wouldn't be in a situation they couldn't handle. They actually told Canada it was good to secure more funds .

The fighter jets we sent over to help won't be in use for another 6 to 8 months from now for next year's spring counter offensive. By then it should only take a few weeks for them to be blown up.

Ukraine is limited on amo only firing a fraction of what's coming back to them.

Since the offensive failed the western world had to make up a story of Russia loosing 50 % of its controlled land. That again is another mis information as Russia left key areas right after the start. As they stated from the beginning they don't want all of Ukraine. They will take the entire eastern side as they are doing. So yeah they have land back from the initial operation but did they win that back or did Russia purposely leave. It's definitely not land that was won back by fighting.

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