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Hunters go to great lengths to cover up their stink. But does it matter? Does the smell of urine spook deer?
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https://oodmag.com/does-our-urine-spook-deer/
Hunters go to great lengths to cover up their stink. But does it matter? Does the smell of urine spook deer?
Those of us old enough to remember Fred Trost, and his losing battle with the scent industry, also remember the resulting demise of a great tv show, Michigan Outdoors !
I have personally seen no response from deer when they encounter human urine ! Fred was right !
I have digitized copies of those scent scam episodes. Fred sure opened some eyes and kicked a bees nest with his reports. I really miss that program (the early ones).Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
It’s been my experience that human urine doesn’t bother deer. In fact it can peak the curiosity of a buck. The sound of urination can also attract a buck. I never hesitate to urinate into a scrape when the opportunity arises.
Michigan outdoors ( or a show of the same name ) is on public tv (Detroit?) thursday night 8:00 pm and repeat on saturdayQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
I like to urinate on deer scrapes.
Read research long ago that that the ammonia and other common items in urine help freshen the deer urine already in the scrape.
Viewing cameras, i don't know if significantly helps, but definitely doesn't repel the deer.
Sometimes i will make a mock scrape near my stand so i have a designated spot to pee.
That is Michigan Out of Doors. After Fred got his arse sued off by the scent industry, the show Michigan Outdoors went off the air. It was later resurrected by Fred’s son Zakary for a while as Michigan Out of Doors, as it is now. I can’t remember what happened with Zak Trost after Fred passed away. I remember the old old show when Mort Neff was the host before Fred took over. The other guy in there was Bob Garner I think…. That’s your history lesson for today ! LolQuote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
i believe he has the episodes of his father up on youtube as well if you look it up, i watched a few and from what i can tell guy seems like he knows and loved what hes talking about, has a genuine feeling about it overall i enjoyed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
https://www.youtube.com/@Michigan-Outdoors
is there any info about him being sued anywhere? or any videos when he slams the scents? i would love to watch his point of view on it.
Google Trost v BuckstopQuote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
There’s lots of info there as well as other sites
Fred was an excellent host as he could relate to his viewers. He wasn’t an expert and his knowledge of hunting and fishing probably equaled those who watched. I really enjoyed watching his annual deer hunting episodes… it was neat to watch him get all excited at the possibility of shooting a spike buck. One year, he hunted deer with a broken leg and nicked an 8-pointer. You had to feel badly for the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowjob
He ended up losing the Buck Stop lawsuit, I think because his test that he was relying on were not certified by an expert. As a result he lost the Michigan Outdoors show. A week later however, he was back on the air with a new show called the “The Practical Sportsman”. The lawsuit and other things made him bitter and it affected his show. After a few years, PBS lost patience with Fred and dropped him. I think that he tried to take the show online, but it didn’t work out.
Many of Fred’s show segments are on YouTube. For anyone who has never watched and is curious, check out this segment. It’s a classic! https://youtu.be/4T6uM7Mcdm0?si=LJpwqJzzs_WkJqQt
By the way, way back when, I taped several episodes where Fred exposes the scent industry. I once posted them on YouTube but had to take them down due to copyright.
this is what i wanna see hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam Menard
I let go off my stand once when I forgot my bottle and had a spike buck sniffing the bush almost before I got zipped up and sat down. Two days latter arrowed an eight point buck from the same stand so never worried much about it again.
I used to watch Fred as the host of "The Practical Sportsman" on Detroit public TV, though he was based out of Bath, Michigan.
It seems to me he actually backed off on the show when he went to law school as a mature student, and hadn't enough time for the show.
Nothing like the smell of a good coffee pee in the morning... it smells like victory !
At my age, a good P is always a victory !Quote:
Originally Posted by longpointer
Funny stuff Rick;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
I think there's a ton of chance in many guys opinions of it hurting or not.
deer can do a ton of off character stuff when they don't feel threatened. I honestly don't know if it helps or hurts, I do know I side on the chance that it might be a negative to some deer so I play it safe and use a bottle