We’re looking to find an English Lab. This dog will be a family pet. Not looking for top tier bloodlines. Just a good well bred dog. Any leads would appreciated.
Thanks. Scott
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We’re looking to find an English Lab. This dog will be a family pet. Not looking for top tier bloodlines. Just a good well bred dog. Any leads would appreciated.
Thanks. Scott
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Are you looking for a British lab …. Field breedings similar in structure to the North American field breedings you see here or an English lab which generally means confirmation / show stock with blockier heads and a heavier body structure.
yeah neigbour has an English yellow and I have an America yellow at least that I think they are as the build is different. Really big difference my girl is taller and lighter then the other male. My is does not have papers and spent a whole bunch less money then neighbour and my is much better trained and is a great hunter, but this is more to do with me trainer her probably then the type of lab. if not looking for a hunter you can probably not go with a top line breeder and I know I will get slammed for that comment, but this is my 2nd non papered lab and both are or were great dogs. More to do with how much training you do. but if you are looking for a shorter heavier built lab you do want an English.
mine on the left retrieving thrower other trying to bit her.
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When I see people looking for an English lab they're generally looking for a big blocky headed dog that can clock in at 100 lbs. With so many labs around, focus more on appropriate health testing instead of the nationality that the people breeding it are trying to call it lol.
I was under the impression that the English ( British) was the smaller of the two. My late girl was 50-55 lbs and came from a known breeder. I trained her and she was a great dog. Really don’t have room for 100 lb dog. Now I’d rather not spend $2500 on our next pet. Like I said just don’t want a puppy mill dog. I know I could adopt but I’d rather get a pup and train it the way we want instead of gambling with someone else’s training or lack thereof.
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The “British” breedings are the dogs closer in size and weight to the original breed standard … 55 to 85 lbs (male / female). The “English” (show / confirmation) breedings are shorter / stockier and generally are heavier as others have suggested than the breed standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by wally243
We got our current Black Pig-dog from Kriscolands down by Ottawa. He's been a great dog and also has incredible waterfowl retrieving ability/ flushing and retrieving grouse, even though his pedigree is mainly "show dog". My advice is to make sure you see the sire and dam, and make sure both have clear hips and elbows. Try to get sire/dam that are at least 4 years old so their hip exams show proven, sound hips and elbows. Many young dogs will have hips that pass at 2 then don't pass when they get older.
As suggested health clearances should be a must IMO …. If you are going to put the time and care, not to mention the $$$$ regardless of what you spend on the puppy, hips and elbows are the bare minimum. The sire and dam should also had “cerf” exams done (eyes).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenelon
As well, breeders who are concerned about the health of the puppies they are breeding, are also adding CNM, EIC and PRA testing to their protocols, as these are genetic conditions which can be passed on to future generations.
Breeders should be happy to provide health clearance information. If these have been done, the dog with results can be found on the OFA website - https://ofa.org/ If they cannot or are unwilling to share, walk away. There are many carefully bred litters out there.
I have gotten two Chocolates from Coopers Lane near Guelph. They breed for pets more than hunting dogs. They also have yellows and fox reds. They are the smaller breed. The one on my lap right now is 53 lbs…. I highly recommend them.
I have had 2 labs in my life.
My first was a black english lab. She was 95lbs and an eating machine. Her temperament wasn't ideal. She had recourse aggression towards others. Not with me though as she knew better than to challenge me. Sadly, she passed at age 7 from cancer. :( She came from a breeder in Michigan called Crest kennells.
My second and current lab is a chocolate female field lab. Current weight 55lbs. She is an outstanding dog. She responded to training very well and has an amazing temperament with everyone. She came from lake joe labs in Muskoka.
Good luck with your search. As others have said do your research before you buy.
I have had a few labs over the years, among other breeds, one thing I noted with labs is that they can come from bloodlines that have very different characteristics.
My first lab was an American field dog from a hunting line, very high energy and retreiving drive and loved to swim and would even lay down in puddles on the road, but due to the high energy level it was not suitable to be left at home alone for too long otherwise it became destructive on furniture. My second lab was from the pound, it was very relaxed, low key, could leave it alone for hours with no issues, but it did not take to training of any kind. My third lab came from an 'obedience' line and he was low key like lab #2 but also took to training very well like lab#1, he did not like swimming but that was not part of his job so nothing lost there (he was trained for deer tracking).
All three labs came from different bloodlines and all three were very different. The take-away here is to be honest with yourself as to what you want to get out of the dog and look for a bloodline that supports what you want.