I live in southwestern Ont. A friend of mine lives in Geraldton. While I am visiting him would I legally be able to use minnows he has trapped while fishing with him or fishing myself.
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I live in southwestern Ont. A friend of mine lives in Geraldton. While I am visiting him would I legally be able to use minnows he has trapped while fishing with him or fishing myself.
Just a guess but fishing with him I'd say yes, fishing by yourself I'd assume you would need some sort of proof from your friend that they trapped according to regs.
I asked a CO this same question last year Re: I live in one FMZ, then I go into another FMZ to fish in my buddie's ice hut. I was told I could use his minnows if he was present during the fishing. If it was me by myself using the hut, then the answer was no, I could not use those minnows. I would have to produce a receipt to prove that the minnows I was using were purchased in that FMF. Bloody ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralphy
Cant the friend produce a written "receipt" that you purchased it from him ? or that the ice hut comes witih unlimited local supply of minnows ...
as far as I know bait shops are not licensed ... so should legally be possible.
I believe bait shops are licensed. There are harvesters licenses for those who catch and sell to dealers and dealers licenses for those who sell to the public.
It would be nice if the people writing these laws actually spent time in the outdoors and understood what they were writing.
I’m all for protection of our resources but when it’s stupidly complicated and makes no difference at the end of the day it’s just ridiculous
This law is a complete and utter joke. I no longer can legally put a bait trap into an outlet from the small lake I fish on and then use those minnows I catch in that Lake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenelon
I am one township north of the southern zone and must buy minnows from a bait supplier in the central zone.
Can anybody tell me how this prevents invasive species of minnows from getting into the area.
APPARENTLY nobody in the MNR and Ontario Goverment knows the answer to that question as I asked it in a e mail I sent to them MONTHS ago.
I added my cottage address to my Ontario Out of Doors card as I am resident up there more months than the City address and I do bank up there. A service agent eliminated that second address on me and told me it was not allowed and I could have only one primary address.
If ever I was charged under these regulations I would have a full blown trial and hope the Justice of the Peace would exercise more common sense than the legislators of this completely stupid regulation.
P.S. I am still awaiting a reply from the Ministry or even an acknowledgement of my letter to them.
Before I posted this thread in the Ontario out of doors ask a CO. I asked if I could use my friends minnow . Fishing with or without him.I got a reply back saying they will get back to me with an answer. I have not heard back yet.
lol….well, if we think the regulation is stupid odds are the CO’s do also, and they’re equally frustrated. For us it’s a joke and for them it’s their daily job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralphy
lets hope your right and at the end of a full year of this spectacular law they do an audit and it reveals ZERO charges laid.Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
Yes that rule change has left many of us shaking our heads.
But who benefits from it???
Only one industry I can think of!
I am a big supporter of following all game laws, even the ones that don't make sense. This rule however is so foolish that I have zero intention of following it.
Between printing your own deer tag, figuring out moose points, slot sizes, minnow and bait regulations and the new gun laws one can hardly keep up. Really discouraging for some of the older sportsmen that hunt/fish.
After 3 1/2 months since the ministry has not given an answer to the ask aCO forum. I phoned the North Bay ministry office and asked if I can use the minnows a friend has legally trapped in the FMZ he lives in While visiting him. I do not live in the same zone. The ministry told me I could use the Minnows while fishing with him, but not while fishing myself. Just an example of this fine law. Let’s say Jim living just outside Nipigon in FMC 7 can trap, transport and fish with minnows legally in a lake just outside Hearst, approximately 400 km away. But myself living in another zone, cannot travel to the same lake Jim is fishing and trap minnows in a Stream, running into or out of that same lake. Maybe one of the ones making the regulations for the ministry could come onto this form and explain the reason for anyone not being able to trap minnows in the streams, running out of and into the lakes they are fishing.I assume they made this law on a ministry retreat at 2 am on a Saturday morning.
I am in the exact same position and wrote to the Ministry a long letter explaining the stupidity of this entire law, so far nothing for a reply. Now that gives me some hope because in previous e mails they have always replied, I hope this indicates "somebody" is looking into this terrible law which really makes no sense in our situation and does nothing to prevent the spread of invasive species.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralphy
P.S. That e mail I sent on the 27th March 2023.
I wonder if the OFAH are asking the same questions.