Middle Eastern nonsense

Anyone ever see an American ship sink ? It's been a long time.

The escalating conflicts we are about to see in the 2024 year is utterly nonsense in Latin terms lol. If a ship is sunk is that a guarantee war lined up? Why can we use sanctions but others in their regions cannot?

The middle east is trying to control the arms flow into Israel that has caused absolute total destruction to gaza. Yet they still seem to be the bad guys . It was Israel who dropped the majority of the dumb bombs or unguided bombs into whatever they hit. Yet it seems to be ok by many.

Why are the Americans stationed in so many places they are unwanted. Sitting on high natural resources then complain when they are attacked.

Speaking of war my wife's great grandfather was gased in 1914 or 15 and a pow for almost 3 years. He was released a few months before the end. We just went back to the late 1600s of the family side of history. Opened the safe and went back in time as their are albums over 100 years old.I get lost in it every time. Lots of army pics general's Funerals in Switzerland and the British prisoners .

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We are the only species on this planet that blindly elects politicians and then follow them and their ideas of what they think is right. If some of those politicians were eliminated, imagine how peaceful the globe would be. They should be on the front line when things get ornery and only then will they see what the multitudes have to suffer.

Some one said "war is when a small number of people who know each other very well and dont like each other convince a large number of people who have never met to go kill each other over it"

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We are the only species on this planet that blindly elects politicians and then follow them and their ideas of what they think is right. If some of those politicians were eliminated, imagine how peaceful the globe would be. They should be on the front line when things get ornery and only then will they see what the multitudes have to suffer.

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we are the only species on earth that choose the weakest to lead (ie. Trudeau, Biden, Marcon)

Since the begining of the time, humans thought we are the centre of universe ... thats just how we are ....
thinking the politicians we see and vote for make any change is just as crazy. maybe it worked 150 years ago, but today ... with all the technology and population, no one person can lead ....

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We are the only species on this planet that blindly elects politicians and then follow them and their ideas of what they think is right. If some of those politicians were eliminated, imagine how peaceful the globe would be. They should be on the front line when things get ornery and only then will they see what the multitudes have to suffer.

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Yes they should be practicing what they preach.

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Nonsense? Hardly! Show me any other nation on this Earth that would tolerate missiles launched into their country and an armed massacre of unarmed civilians by a terrorist army. For that matter,show me where "Palestine" is. What is their currency? Who is their leadership? Where is their seat of government? The facts are there aren't any. They have never been recognized as a nation by the UN (not that that's any big deal). People calling themselves Palestinians are unorganized tribal Bedouin Arabs who have been aimlessly wandering the desert for centuries. After an attempted coup,they were kicked out of Kuwait,not allowed to stay in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon or Jordan and refused entry to Egypt.
Only by the good graces of Israel were they allowed to occupy the Gaza strip after the last war where they fomented an army of terrorists all the while being supported by the citizens of Gaza making them terrorist accomplices. That's the thanks they were given. Other than feeling great angst for children being used as human shields who have no choice,I have not one shred of remorse for their demise. They elected Hamas terrorists,covered for them and supported them,so,tough bananas. The Bible prophecy is real....." As ye sow,so shall ye reap". As for the West Bank territory ,that IS nonsense. That should be taken over by Israel completely,too,and put to rest the entire debacle.

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Nonsense? Hardly! Show me any other nation on this Earth that would tolerate missiles launched into their country and an armed massacre of unarmed civilians by a terrorist army. For that matter,show me where "Palestine" is. What is their currency? Who is their leadership? Where is their seat of government? The facts are there aren't any. They have never been recognized as a nation by the UN (not that that's any big deal). People calling themselves Palestinians are unorganized tribal Bedouin Arabs who have been aimlessly wandering the desert for centuries. After an attempted coup,they were kicked out of Kuwait,not allowed to stay in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon or Jordan and refused entry to Egypt.
Only by the good graces of Israel were they allowed to occupy the Gaza strip after the last war where they fomented an army of terrorists all the while being supported by the citizens of Gaza making them terrorist accomplices. That's the thanks they were given. Other than feeling great angst for children being used as human shields who have no choice,I have not one shred of remorse for their demise. They elected Hamas terrorists,covered for them and supported them,so,tough bananas. The Bible prophecy is real....." As ye sow,so shall ye reap". As for the West Bank territory ,that IS nonsense. That should be taken over by Israel completely,too,and put to rest the entire debacle.

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I enjoy how you do not let facts ruin your story. it trully is a talent.
tell us more.....
Were native american also brought here to help us learn how to fish and hunt the land ? lolol us Canadians were here all along ... natives are the ones that were lost in "Water" for centuries lolol

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Nonsense? Hardly! Show me any other nation on this Earth that would tolerate missiles launched into their country and an armed massacre of unarmed civilians by a terrorist army. For that matter,show me where "Palestine" is. What is their currency? Who is their leadership? Where is their seat of government? The facts are there aren't any. They have never been recognized as a nation by the UN (not that that's any big deal). People calling themselves Palestinians are unorganized tribal Bedouin Arabs who have been aimlessly wandering the desert for centuries. After an attempted coup,they were kicked out of Kuwait,not allowed to stay in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon or Jordan and refused entry to Egypt.
Only by the good graces of Israel were they allowed to occupy the Gaza strip after the last war where they fomented an army of terrorists all the while being supported by the citizens of Gaza making them terrorist accomplices. That's the thanks they were given. Other than feeling great angst for children being used as human shields who have no choice,I have not one shred of remorse for their demise. They elected Hamas terrorists,covered for them and supported them,so,tough bananas. The Bible prophecy is real....." As ye sow,so shall ye reap". As for the West Bank territory ,that IS nonsense. That should be taken over by Israel completely,too,and put to rest the entire debacle.

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The odd thing about the palestinians is that Israel tolerates them in Gaza - but no other Arab nation will... Have a look at the mid east and north Africa - all that territory that is arab controlled. Now look at how small Israel is. And you need to ask yourself why it is that the Palestinians feel a need to take back the land Israel occupies.

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why it is that the Palestinians feel a need to take back the land Israel occupies.

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really I agree with u. same with natives, we took over Canada, they should deal with it and leave, theres all the snow up there in north pole ... why are they not there and insist on having their land ....

just to help, palestine includes Gaza strip and west bank ...

Our government's saying they are doing the responsibe solution but we are fighting violence with violence. They say they are doing what they can while fully supporting the arm's flow into Israel.

Most probably don't know but the usa and Isreal have a deal that the usa is to keep their supply stocked . They will even be building a manufacturing company to produce and supply the Israeli military. The stocked supply is the usa but Isreal has full rights to the use. It is the job of the usa to keep its reserves stocked.

This isn't the way to end it. Nobody is talking about 2022 and 2023 being the deadliest years in almost 2 decades. Israelis killing Palestine children in the Westbank. Let's not fix those problems. Hey let's not even mention it and wonder why they dislike us.

Another bummer is we are all paying for it. Fully funded by the people

Who's going to back down first? Natos second largest military seems to stand with the people of Palestine. Remember the so called bad guys only want an end to this. Stop the flow of arms. Simple if not I guess whatever happens happens.

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really I agree with u. same with natives, we took over Canada, they should deal with it and leave, theres all the snow up there in north pole ... why are they not there and insist on having their land ....

just to help, palestine includes Gaza strip and west bank ...

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I can see that ancient history isn't your forte. The west bank and the Gaza strip are not, nor have they ever been, Palestine. The Jewish homeland was always exactly where it is,today,from the time of King David and his son,King Solomon.....about 2400 years ago.

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Nonsense? Hardly! Show me any other nation on this Earth that would tolerate missiles launched into their country and an armed massacre of unarmed civilians by a terrorist army. For that matter,show me where "Palestine" is. What is their currency? Who is their leadership? Where is their seat of government? The facts are there aren't any. They have never been recognized as a nation by the UN (not that that's any big deal). People calling themselves Palestinians are unorganized tribal Bedouin Arabs who have been aimlessly wandering the desert for centuries. After an attempted coup,they were kicked out of Kuwait,not allowed to stay in Iraq,Syria,Lebanon or Jordan and refused entry to Egypt.
Only by the good graces of Israel were they allowed to occupy the Gaza strip after the last war where they fomented an army of terrorists all the while being supported by the citizens of Gaza making them terrorist accomplices. That's the thanks they were given. Other than feeling great angst for children being used as human shields who have no choice,I have not one shred of remorse for their demise. They elected Hamas terrorists,covered for them and supported them,so,tough bananas. The Bible prophecy is real....." As ye sow,so shall ye reap". As for the West Bank territory ,that IS nonsense. That should be taken over by Israel completely,too,and put to rest the entire debacle.

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So are they prisoners? Who feeds them who's supports them. Are they called terrorists for fighting with nothing. Are they run by humanitarian aid . ?

Or did a government mess up and now they have a bigger issue?

Isreal just want hem to move to the desert in Egypt. How will that help

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So are they prisoners? Who feeds them who's supports them. Are they called terrorists for fighting with nothing. Are they run by humanitarian aid . ?

Or did a government mess up and now they have a bigger issue?

Isreal just want hem to move to the desert in Egypt. How will that help

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They're far from prisoners. They're being fed by international aid that's being confiscated by Hamas fighters which shows how much they regard their own. They're certainly not "fighting with nothing" being armed and supplied with missiles nd ammo by the Iranians through Hezbollah. The only government that messed up was Israel by trusting them to run Gaza unimpeded since 2007. That worked out well,didn't it? The Arabs turned it into a radical Islamic armed camp with only one purpose....to kill the Jews and anyone else who got in the way. Israel and the US tried to convince Egypt,Jordan and Lebanon to accept them as refugees. Why do you think they refused? That speaks volumes.

Thousands have rallied in Yemen since the Americans Hitt many targets. Thousands chanting death to America.

https://youtu.be/3PDBTSQ62_I?si=PQKcmt4BIqdEVc6X

Isreal is being hit from 7 fronts and had 6 of those fronts defended a few weeks ago. Seems they have created many enemies over the years.

What is the bigger picture could it be about Iran? Russia, India ? Russia is fighting an economic war in Africa without bullets. Iran is now part of the brics as is India. A war over money can lead to the same as any other. Do the Americans feel threatened over the economic decline of the dollars? India Russia and Iran plus many more partners have started to abandoned it. More and more deals everyday are being taken away from the American dollars. That alone will weaken the the Americans and would put them on a defensive line.

Or a bigger picture would be to keep us distracted .

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They're far from prisoners. They're being fed by international aid that's being confiscated by Hamas fighters which shows how much they regard their own. They're certainly not "fighting with nothing" being armed and supplied with missiles nd ammo by the Iranians through Hezbollah. The only government that messed up was Israel by trusting them to run Gaza unimpeded since 2007. That worked out well,didn't it? The Arabs turned it into a radical Islamic armed camp with only one purpose....to kill the Jews and anyone else who got in the way. Israel and the US tried to convince Egypt,Jordan and Lebanon to accept them as refugees. Why do you think they refused? That speaks volumes.

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Didn't the people vote for hamas?

Yeah everything they have has been smuggled in over the years. I kind of think of it or described it as prison riot lol. Most have never been further than 24 km in any direction. Most will never leave or even be given the chance . The people chant free Palestine what would they need to be free from . Being fed by international aid is like being fed by a prison paid by the taxpayers. They are both dependent on others so what's the difference?

Pretty balsy to be dropping grenades on enemy tanks with their bare hands. But in the end that is what they have only themselves.

I'm not defending any side I'd rather be on the less conflict side and the truth. Just like Russia and Ukraine I want the truth. Not propaganda. It was a lie that Russia blew up their bridge. It was lie that Russia blew up its own pipeline into Germany. It was lie that Russia blew up a school, ok that part wasn't a lie yes a school was hit but it wasfully occupied by the military. They were stupid enough to post the pictures and within the hours was struck by the enemy causing Russia to blow up the school. . They lied about the pizza shop yes again it was military personnel.

They lied about Russia taking all of Ukraine that was never the plan when did they say that? . They basically have what they wanted and it was the people and mayor's of Ukraine who asked for Russian help. How many people died in Ukraine in the years leading up the invasion? Thousands. Zelensky ordered a drone attack on its own people prior to the invasion. It is Russias boarders not ours it was their people being killed in Ukraine proir to the invasion.

Western propaganda is what we get. It sickens me and that is part of the reason I lost all faith in our mainstream media.

Instead I turn to alternatives like independent media with their own sources on the ground.

Guess that's why it's the discussion at the world economic forum in davos next week.

"Rebuilding trust " yes that's a panel of discussion as they know they messed up. They wouldn't need to rebuild the trust if the truth was spoken.






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I think far too many people are brainwashed by the media and we should all know who owns the vast majority of the media is owned and directed by.

Not to mention they all say the scripts lol.
https://youtu.be/ksb3KD6DfSI?si=6vc2a1_PQ5SZ3362

https://youtu.be/YkcaeaD45MY?si=O-WgSuBrcNjNmNGX

Brought to you by pfizer

https://youtu.be/210bHotqzFM?si=cO1wKvIE8mpE4-2I

Even our medical experts were told what to say. Run from a script. From their own words that they just say what was written for them. Pretty sad when our experts and professionals are told what to say.

https://youtu.be/-TU1-SxT2Fc?si=W7dTQXsLaM1iZXUP

Every main stream in Canada is owned and funded by the same groups with the same narratives with the same agenda. But its their business's so they can bring who and what they want to the table.. They will tell us what they want to.

I still listen to them and watch them as I will never just listen to one side of the story.

They don't tell us about the large protesters in Germany as their economy has collapsed and they push for more war and farming regulations. But they will tell you 2 people were shot in Paris.

What they tell you is Russia will loose as the reality is everyone else's economy falls. They tell us he's on his death bed while he recently just spoke for hour's at economic events without a script lol.

It seems for some reason we always need an enemy. Even our political parties right vs left . The right is bad while the left is good. Far right people have have extremists views when in reality it's the left who are usually so destructive.

Funny how that works but if they keep us divided, it can do Funny things. I was told I should die because I wasn't getting vaccinated to bad they couldn't of felt the same way when 85% just refused it.

We should all be working together not divided that's how conspiracies or aka spoiler alerts start between the divided and what's being said by mainstream. They make it out that independent media is fake news. But is what they want it.

A classic example. The bank of Canada just quietly filled for all rights to its Canadian digital currencies ,even know they just said they had no plan on bringingit in.. Where is the media? Where was the news about its consultation? Not where it should matter most but under the darkness of distractions and quietly brought in.

Wheres the mainstream of Europe putting in cash restrictions in use of a digital currency in the name to combat money laundering. Or the fact they said they needed their own digital euro so mark Zuckerberg didn't bring out thier own currencies first. Yes they won't take the cash away but you could be in the Grey zone for spending it with set limits and regulations.. Or that Ukraine was the digital pilot program in 2019 with the Dia app. It made things possible for the war it made payments possible.

Anyways enough of that sorry.






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I think far too many people are brainwashed by the media and we should all know who owns the vast majority of the media is owned and directed by.

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Money talks.
Aka
The media

It's why we see people like gates sit down with key senators .

Who's more powerful the president of the United States? Or the top organizations who has been making policy decisions longer than any sitting president lol ?



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Hey fisherman

It's not brainwashing that would be a far right term . The correct political term is called "social conditioning" ,the new normal, government paid media, government paid influencer's , many articles talk about behavioral change? Raise the price and we will change our habits "behavioral changes" aka social conditioning for all the above.. oh and there is so many more ways for so long .


But anyway back on topic

2 navy members are dead as a they had a mishap more missles launched towards a united States ship. No end in sight they don't feel threatened by the usa anymore.

Apparently a lot of ships are taking the long route and avoiding the area. That's going to put the prices of alot of things up. We all know who it hurts when there are major shipping delays, plus it will cost much more in fuel and other labor hours.

What is our status there not much talk and I haven't been looking into yet. It's costing us something though.

Some ships are using Chinese flags to pass through.

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I can see that ancient history isn't your forte. The west bank and the Gaza strip are not, nor have they ever been, Palestine. The Jewish homeland was always exactly where it is,today,from the time of King David and his son,King Solomon.....about 2400 years ago.

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how was, and when was israel formed ? 2400 years ago ? or after WW2 ?
was it crown land before ww2 ?

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how was, and when was israel formed ? 2400 years ago ? or after WW2 ?
was it crown land before ww2 ?

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https://www.wionews.com/photos/how-i...ron-age-647305

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how was, and when was israel formed ? 2400 years ago ? or after WW2 ?
was it crown land before ww2 ?

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Israel was formed during the late Bronze-early Iron Age circa 1200BC. Biblical scholars of ancient history believe it may have been earlier than that. Over the centuries,Israeites were evicted and subjugated by three civilizations,but,each time over the course of their history,were able to rise up and defeat their enemies. The latest of that age was Egypt during the reign of Ramses II whose adopted son was Moses. Remember the story of Moses parting the Red Sea and his people escaping from the Egyptian army? If you look at a map of the area,it's easy to see where that occurred and how the Israelites migrated to the area of what is now Israel. There's many accounts and historical documents that can be found on-line from various universities in the Middle East. Google is your best friend.

I’m no expert on this area but it sure seems like the Palestinians have been offered many peace deals, none of which were good enough. And none of their Arab “brothers” seems to have any use for them, they love to speak up for them at the UN, but as T21 said they won’t accept them into their countries. 3 times the Arabs have messed with Israel and 3 times humiliated - seems like most of them are getting the message.

If the Arabs laid down their arms, ther would be peace in the Middle East, and if the Israelis laid down their arms, they would all be dead. ‘Nuff said.

Displacing 2 million people by dropping 33 tons of bombs per square kilometer. Likely half dumb bombs as they reported 40 to 60 as dumb bombs. With a plan to ship them off to tents in the desert.

What choice is there now they dropped more tnt than Hiroshima

Only brings an opportunity for them to come here if the g20 take 100 thousand each . Problem solved our economy will boom.


Now what , what's the solution? As our support is only angering others. Can we blame them we just killed over 10 thousand children and trying to justify it while fully supporting it.


Sure it's going to anger people, especially within their regions.




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I’m no expert on this area but it sure seems like the Palestinians have been offered many peace deals, none of which were good enough. And none of their Arab “brothers” seems to have any use for them, they love to speak up for them at the UN, but as T21 said they won’t accept them into their countries. 3 times the Arabs have messed with Israel and 3 times humiliated - seems like most of them are getting the message.

If the Arabs laid down their arms, ther would be peace in the Middle East, and if the Israelis laid down their arms, they would all be dead. ‘Nuff said.

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The hatred towards each other unfortunately stems from both sides for decades.

It was the Israelis who caused the biggest number of deaths in decades by the end 2022 into 2023 in the Westbank by murdering their children.

Guess the humanitarian aid guards wasn't doing the best job at protecting the people in gaza or the Westbank. If they were it wouldn't of resulted In forming hamas. If the people felt safe they wouldn't of needed to vote for a group to protect them.

Keeping them separated from the world while killing their children. Is equalivent to f around and find out.

Sorry to say but if we lived in those conditions for 60 plus years the thoughts that would run through our heads would be unimaginable . People in the real world have the same thoughts just through another prospective of life and we can see what they do. Now imagine your life in their shoes. Stuck within a 24km strip of land for life for the majority of them.

That to me that is prison. The amount of dumd bombs dropped is genocide as there was no poops given to where it landed. Dropping them blindly is irresponsible and reckless.

Not to mention they had no other plan than to destroy the city.






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Israel was formed during the late Bronze-early Iron Age circa 1200BC. Biblical scholars of ancient history believe it may have been earlier than that. Over the centuries,Israeites were evicted and subjugated by three civilizations,but,each time over the course of their history,were able to rise up and defeat their enemies. The latest of that age was Egypt during the reign of Ramses II whose adopted son was Moses. Remember the story of Moses parting the Red Sea and his people escaping from the Egyptian army? If you look at a map of the area,it's easy to see where that occurred and how the Israelites migrated to the area of what is now Israel. There's many accounts and historical documents that can be found on-line from various universities in the Middle East. Google is your best friend.

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thanks for teaching me about google, look what I found lol :)

"On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day."

"After the Ottoman Empire lost WWI, the British received a mandate to manage Palestine. The British promised the Jewish people a country in the Balfour Declaration and also promised the Palestinians independence. Israel declared independence in 1948 after the British handed the mandate off to the UN."

But the beauty of human brain is to be able to make a story and not lets facts ruin it , so go on. lol

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please educate yourself.

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I’m no expert on this area but it sure seems like the Palestinians have been offered many peace deals, none of which were good enough. And none of their Arab “brothers” seems to have any use for them, they love to speak up for them at the UN, but as T21 said they won’t accept them into their countries. 3 times the Arabs have messed with Israel and 3 times humiliated - seems like most of them are getting the message.

If the Arabs laid down their arms, ther would be peace in the Middle East, and if the Israelis laid down their arms, they would all be dead. ‘Nuff said.

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Think about it.

what if Trudea said America should accept all canadians .... why would we leave. ? this is our home lol

so what u are saying is Arabs should take palestanians, and palestine should dissolve ... which makes no sense.

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thanks for teaching me about google, look what I found lol :)

"On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day."

"After the Ottoman Empire lost WWI, the British received a mandate to manage Palestine. The British promised the Jewish people a country in the Balfour Declaration and also promised the Palestinians independence. Israel declared independence in 1948 after the British handed the mandate off to the UN."

But the beauty of human brain is to be able to make a story and not lets facts ruin it , so go on. lol

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Your welcome. Now,please take your own advice.

This is exactly what I asked in the first post. . What happens if a usa military ship is sunk . Apparently the attacks did little damage to the houthi supply.

https://youtu.be/9MIOzFIzDfY?si=Rxm0-X41OHA_OOpd

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These guys put out some great pieces anyone watch the redacted show ? History legends has also had more accurate reports since the wars started. Not bias accurate reports from both sides .
If you notice the ticker numbers on their screen behind them it's actually the usa debt lol.

Anyway col. MacGregor

He has been more accurate than any media with what's really been happening the past few years. A very knowledgeable person.


https://youtu.be/D42NTEKh1xY?si=J8lG-oHCled13fNY

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Your welcome. Now,please take your own advice.

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well im glad now you have learned that israel was established in 1948 .... after WW2, not 2400 years ago :)

So the usa has labeled the huthies as a terrorist group while they have killed nobody in the red sea.

Funny who they call terrorist. Israel just killed over 23 thousand civilians with over 10 thousand children dead . That's genocide

But the ones trying to stop the flow of goods into Israel are the terrorists.






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well im glad now you have learned that israel was established in 1948 .... after WW2, not 2400 years ago :)

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In case you're interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrNDNOkBnS4

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In case you're interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrNDNOkBnS4

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Good video all around.

watch it after 23 minutes ...

Belfour declaration for example :
he Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British Government in 1917 during the First World War announcing its support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine,


The British Mandate for Palestine (1918-1948) was the outcome of several factors: the British occupation of territories previously ruled by the Ottoman Empire, the peace treaties that brought the First World War to an end, and the principle of self-determination that emerged after the war.




so lets go back to your original statement :
"The west bank and the Gaza strip are not, nor have they ever been, Palestine."

above shows other wise.

Jewish people and Israel the country/State are 2 different things.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqjO5Z9Lt_M
if you havent watched it yet. maybe you will also find it interesting.

Well 3 Americans are now dead with at least 2 dozen injured. It was only a matter of time before casualties were confirmed.

More of the same old "Iran backed" talks

How many times a day does our media and people in power use that phrase a day. ? Iran backed ,it's Iran backed.

Iran hasn't told anyone to anything lol.

These are all independent territorial run organizations. They are not taking orders from Iran. But every day we push more and more for a war with Iran. Lots of high officials called on the attack of Iran.

The houthies can't erupted the economy but it's ok for them to slap sanctions and disrupt the economy any time they want. Blow up others pipe lines in attempt to shatter their economy. Sorry that didn't work. Yemen is kicking out the Americans British and un diplomats along with anyone else. This isn't the first time places are kicking us out. But just a growing trend.

The usa is about to learn its not going to be the bully of the world. Hence the expansion of the brics and the eceleration of the de dollar the usa.


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The usa is about to learn its not going to be the bully of the world. Hence the expansion of the brics and the eceleration of the de dollar the usa.

I wish they would learn to mind their own business and keep from sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.

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The usa is about to learn its not going to be the bully of the world. Hence the expansion of the brics and the eceleration of the de dollar the usa.

I wish they would learn to mind their own business and keep from sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.

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Tower 22 that was hit is apparently a gaurd tower over 15 thousand Syrian refugees living in tents.

Maybe they would be better off setting up a tower over their own boarder. 8 million people just walked into the usa since Biden. It's not open boarders it part of their imagination plan. It's all post on the government pages. We are seeing the biggest migration since the cold war. Texas is in a standoff currently going against executive orders over closing it.

Funny all the ones walking in are cheering for Biden. Not mentioned in the news but our leader is FastTracking them too. .

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I doubt there will ever be peace in the Mid East. For cultures and countries that were the birthplace of mathematics/architecture/astronomy, etc. it's sad to see them regress instead of progress because they believe in a religious based rule of politics that has no compromise. Same could be applied to a totalitarian state. So as the US of A is the only power right now keeping me safe I will throw my chips in with them. Not saying they are perfect, far from it but their Kool-aid tastes better not bitter.

This guy puts out some good information shows what's really happening and his take on this is 100 % accurate as they already attacked more ships. Now over 160 attacks on usa bases since mid October more have happened since this video 3 days ago.

His videos on the Ukraine war shows what really happened . Despite what's been said by mainstream he also shows both sides of the battle not just 1 like others have done.


https://youtu.be/2j7G0JOlSRo?si=f1IivnzEleoOqPPx

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Well is Isreal going to keep poking Iran?
They showed a force not seen before.
They showed that they can Penetrate Isreal soil. 9 missiles made it into Isreal every one was 100% accurate. All 9 hit a military targets. Considering they gave them a 2 week notice to prepare and used slow drones it was just like a show.

Cost it cost the west way more. It cost millions to hit cheap 20 thousands dollar drones. I hear Iran spent 35 million to Isreals 1.2 billion that the American people will pay part of.
If Isreal didn't blow up their embassy building killing Iranian general's in Syria Iran wouldn't have been provoked.


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Who's provoking who ? Iran seems to be pretty chill watching . Iran kills 1 Isreal kills 7 thousand in Lebanon lol. If you can justify Isreal I can also justify Iran as they were not the aggressive ones. They had their building blown up they had leaders injured and they were not supposed to do anything?. Iran didn't target civilians Isreal has displaced millions.

Anyway hamas recruited thousands more people. 3ooo more in September.

The brics summit was watching what's happening.

Isreal was still being bombed from 4 fronts last week.

Ps the Amsterdam thing was created and lead by the Isreali people . Guess that's what happens when you have bad house guests.

(Edit) just in turkey just severed its diplomatic ties with Israel over the genocide of gaza and Lebanon. That's why I was saying the brics were watching more than half the world is watching America support it . Let that sink in. Now imagine if they abandoned nato. North American countries have already turned to the bric bloc as participating partners.


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Just a few deaths prior to Oct 7th .
By the Isreali forces if you ever wondered ever happened or what may have led to the events.
https://www.ochaopt.org/poc/5-18-september-2023

Also there Is documentarie about life of gaza
How do you life as a fisherman when your restricted to a 3 km radius?





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All the jews want to do is completely take it over along with the massive oil reserves, jewish settlers kicking out the palestinians and keeping their property.

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All the jews want to do is completely take it over along with the massive oil reserves, jewish settlers kicking out the palestinians and keeping their property.

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Palestinians have never "owned" one damn thing anywhere in the middle east. There's a reason Egypt,Jordan,Syria and Lebanon want nothing to do with them. Besides,I'm seeing scattered reports in the last few minutes that your beloved Ayatollah Khamenai has been found dead. Maybe,the Mossad brewed him some special "tea".

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Palestinians have never "owned" one damn thing anywhere in the middle east..

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Maybe that's the a problem they were told they could creat their own government and when the people spoke we didn't like it. We still wanted to control them.

Why won't we let them drill oil ? Why won't we let them even try? . Why won't we let them life for themselves? .

They weren't even giving a chance. Then we wonder why a resistance group was formed lol.

Thousands are expected to come to Canada

Ps I'm pretty sure fisherman is talking about the current plans from Israel to redesign the gaza strip for its oils or a possibly a tourist destination or own personal use lol.





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Take in the missing and you can safely say 20 thousand children are dead. The latest number is just under 17 thousands confirmed dead children.

That's almost more dead kids than dead hamas.

Gotta love the collective punishment.


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This could be their plan. I know for sure we have already said we would take 4 thousand according to the gov of Canada. Is that 4 thousand a year or total lol.

Is this the new media or just another they would like to see disappear ? lol.

https://youtu.be/xOqUyKLr4Is?si=eyzXH0LHqRoF9fPY

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Didn't know we were routing for the former al qaeda leader to over take Syria. Who knew the usa is working so closely to over throw foreign government's with terrorists.
Syria is so wacked everyone's fighting terrorists

Russia the usa, Isreal , and other carring out air strikes on terrorists, turkey and other nato members funding the former terrorists.
He rebrands starts looking like Zelensky have the same enemy and they're our friends

Geeze the usa says it ain't our fight then get off their oil fields and get the heck out lol.
Also noticed in the vid that usa controls parts of it agricultural land.

Pretty sad situation for everyone. Maybe everyone should get out and let them live and trade with the world instead of trying to destabilize them.


https://youtu.be/D8pZgwOdIuA?si=j7uW4qAchCtgWqJh


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Imagine I went around destabilizing my neighbors get them to loose their job make life miserable make them loose their home and lively hood.

Who would I be ? A monster a terrorist.

Heck I'm already a misogynist,extremists, non science believer, far right person and anti that according to my government .
It's no wonder I have no faith or trust in any of them.

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Now Afghanistan 15 000 taliban troops at Pakistans boarder Pakistan is also sending troops to is boarder as tensions flair. I'm sure we will fund them both, support one and send aid to the other.



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If you ever wonder who the aggressive ones are ? In a so called ceasefire the Isrealis just killed hundreds of women and children.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article...s-across-gaza/





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I can't believe we about to start a war over genocide. That's what's it all about.

One side is causing a genocide the other trying to prevent it. The good guys killing tens of thousands of women and children. The bad guys are disrupting the genocide and it's trading partners and they are the enemy.

The world's gone bonkers the usa is setting its course for Iran nothing more.

Do we want fuel to double in price ?

Will it be Iran's fault if Yemen sinks a usa aircraft carrier.?

The trump man is blowing up Yemen over Israel not living up to its end of the deal. Hamas has done everything in the ceasefire as they planned its Isreal who hasn't. The hostage deal was a 3 part commitment to the ceasefire. Hamas did its part now it's Israel's turn to live up to the deal.

I can't believe the our enemy are not the ones carrying out a genocide.







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The jews don't want the war to end until every palestinian is either dead or moved elsewhere.

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It's not the Jews that want them dead. It's that Hamas and Hezbollah use civilians as human shields to garner sympathy and support from the western media that's falling for their nonsense hook,line and sinker. Hamas broke the ceasefire deal by not releasing all the hostages. Hezbolah has been relatively quiet lately while Houthis are ramping up attacks on US assets in the Gulf. The Iranians are pulling all the strings. If they keep up with their crap,those "towering fires in the east" mentioned in the Book of Revelations will come to pass and it won't be oil wells on fire this time.

A good rule of thumb to remember is if you send armed fighters on a mission into my country, kill hundreds of unarmed civilians and kidnap hundreds more and then use them as human shields when you retreat back to your "safe haven", you do not get to tell me how I will respond to your actions.
I have yet to see Jews across the world blocking traffic such as in Toronto yelling to push all Palestinians into the sea until they are exterminated.
Hamas and Houtis and others will never be satisfied until there are no Jews in the world. They and their kind will always continue to push the envelope around the world making "martyrs" for the next generation to adore.
Just my opinion of course.
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A good rule of thumb to remember is if you send armed fighters on a mission into my country, kill hundreds of unarmed civilians and kidnap hundreds more and then use them as human shields when you retreat back to your "safe haven", you do not get to tell me how I will respond to your actions.
I have yet to see Jews across the world blocking traffic such as in Toronto yelling to push all Palestinians into the sea until they are exterminated.
Hamas and Houtis and others will never be satisfied until there are no Jews in the world. They and their kind will always continue to push the envelope around the world making "martyrs" for the next generation to adore.
Just my opinion of course.
John

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Lots of problems before that happened. How many were officially killed by the the idf hundreds .

What about the amount of children of killed prior to October? I'm not saying it's was it right but the problems already existed between them.

Let's remember it was not all the actions of hamas that led to the unfortunate October event.

At the end of the day does is give Isreal the right to kill tens of thousands women and children that had nothing to do with the October event. ? What about completely wiping the city till there is nothing left?

Is killing 100 people ok if they get 1 hamas fighter ?

In the end mostly women and children are being killed not hamas.

2 wrongs don't make a right.



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A good rule of thumb to remember is if you send armed fighters on a mission into my country, kill hundreds of unarmed civilians and kidnap hundreds more and then use them as human shields when you retreat back to your "safe haven", you do not get to tell me how I will respond to your actions.
I have yet to see Jews across the world blocking traffic such as in Toronto yelling to push all Palestinians into the sea until they are exterminated.
Hamas and Houtis and others will never be satisfied until there are no Jews in the world. They and their kind will always continue to push the envelope around the world making "martyrs" for the next generation to adore.
Just my opinion of course.
John

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Agreed, start a war against a stronger power and then hide in with the civilians, and whine when civilians get killed. Won't get much sympathy from me. While I feel for the locals, I'm not sure why they aren't pointing out all the Hamas that are cowards and hiding among them.

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Depends what you call them. Terrorist or Partisans sides of the same coin. How I see it its a group of people asking for a little corner of the world where they can live how they please cut from a little corner of the world from a people who asked for a little corner of the world where they can live as they please. A little bit of do as I say not as I do.
Its quite evident sharing is not part of human genetics, the world would be a much better place if it was.

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Depends what you call them. Terrorist or Partisans sides of the same coin. How I see it its a group of people asking for a little corner of the world where they can live how they please cut from a little corner of the world from a people who asked for a little corner of the world where they can live as they please. A little bit of do as I say not as I do.
Its quite evident sharing is not part of human genetics, the world would be a much better place if it was.

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Israel gave them "a little corner of the world" and they turned into a giant terrorist missile base from which to attack Israel. How's that for gratitude? Every middle eastern nation has expelled the "Palestinians" and/or refused them entry as refugees. What does that tell you? They place their missile batteries on top of hospitals,schools,in playgrounds guaranteeing the deaths of their people "for the cause". How's that for NUTS!! Civilians (I use the term loosely) are 100% complicit. Then,we have a pathetically gullible ,goofball Liberal government allowing hundreds of thousands of unbalanced radical Muslims into this country as refugees completely unfettered on the taxpayer's dime and they can't figure out why ordinary Canadians are irate?

Oh and how did Israel acquire the land from the Palestinians, the Balfour Declaration, the Brits just decided, and caused the problem. Maybe the FN's should come and take yours, see how you feel.

Lots of talk about emigration can't help but wonder if it was the plan the entire time. Leaked documents from last year would suggest so.
The American intrest and plans would also suggest so. Why wasn't trump keeping to international order as the leader of Israel who has an arrest warrant for genocide from the icc was aloud to walk and leave us soil?

Even Canada said they would arrest him in November but it's all theater.

Just like the so called rebels aka terrorists in Syria while the Americans been pumping their resources.

So much corruption and not just about this .

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Oh and how did Israel acquire the land from the Palestinians, the Balfour Declaration, the Brits just decided, and caused the problem. Maybe the FN's should come and take yours, see how you feel.

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Israel had the entire middle east as their traditional homeland since the ancient time of the Egyptian Pharoahs,King David and Moses. The concept that Israel only occupied the area since 1949 Balfour Decision is really selective modern history. The British knew the history and were intelligent enough not to interfere when the Jews claimed it back after the Holocaust as their traditional homeland.
Oh,BTW,in case you haven't noticed,FN have already laid claim to vast areas of Canada and had it granted back to them by the SCOC under previous treaties that went unenforced since Confederation. Actually,your town of Angus is smack dab in the middle of one.

As I see it, there is no simple or complex solution that would keep even 51% of the worlds' total population happy with imaginary borders or religious ideology.
If anyone has any plan here I would be interested to see it.
Mankind was evolved as a hunter, a gatherer, and a wanderer, always wary of anything different that could affect him or his clan. Fight or flight are the only 2 rules of thumb for survival. You put down roots where you have food and water, and moved on when needed.
If someone or something blocked your existence you went through it or around it. Fairly basic analogy but not much has changed in 5000 years.
John

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