Former president Trump was shot earlier in Pa. - luckily the bullet missed his head and hit above the ear - as I have often said - one guy with a gun can change the course of history - hope they catch the bum who did this and hang the SOB
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Former president Trump was shot earlier in Pa. - luckily the bullet missed his head and hit above the ear - as I have often said - one guy with a gun can change the course of history - hope they catch the bum who did this and hang the SOB
I don't understand how anyone could miss that big head.
Better luck next time.
It turns out the shooter was a 20 year old wing nut shooting from an elevated position 200M outside the security zone. Secret Service snipers took him out,but,not until after he fired 8 rounds killing a former fire chief and wounding another spectator. Trump turned his head to address someone to his right when the bullet grazed his ear. Had he not turned,the bullet would have hit him squarely in front of the ear dead before he hit the floor. That kid just handed Trump the next election on a silver platter.
Well let me just say this - our country is falling apart - the progressives are leading our country into socialism and support the World Order crowd - the values that made America great are fast disappearing - they are pushing us toward Godless communism - a guy like Trump has the guts to stand up against the Establishment and will make our country the great country it once was - he is our only hope at this time - to preserve freedom and liberty and keep the government from controlling our lives - just look at Canada and how the government controls every thing you do - thank God the punk missed otherwise he could have changed the course of history -
From what I have read the Secret Service did a lousy job protecting him - hopefully those responsible for his safety are booted from their jobs -
I watched the video of the shooting, Trumps head moved slightly to the left as he was talking, it was momentarily after that, he reached up touched his ear and ducked. It was that slight movement of his head to the left, that appears to have taken his forehead out of the path of the bullet. Call him lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
Think it's the same reason I whiffed on my second turkey this past spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Nut
JoePa ; True... your country is falling apart and true also our government controls our lives , maybe too much at times but without laws where would we be ? When you guys have a common problem there are no Democrats or Republicans there are just Americans and to paraphrase Old Joe Biden "nothing is impossible, you are capable of great things". No one party has the recipe to make America great again but together you do.
He is a very lucky man.
Secret service was shown acting nervously moments before the shots. Also police were apparently notified several minutes before the shooting. People saw the dude crawling across the roof with a rifle at least 4 minutes before the shooting and tried to let authorities know. The witness was wondering why he was still speaking after letting them know.
Joe
Everyone's going to love new world order lol.
Long pointer
Laws ? Yeah we have those and they are neglected with very little to no punishment. Policy's and mandates at who's decisions ? Not the big guy nor our Canadian leaders.
You can call it conspiracy but it's all on the government pages. But who realy voted for it?
Same as bringing in 20 million into America or the almost 2 million in Canada also the biggest migration since the cold war . It's in the fine print. All part of the plan. Most are to distracted to even notice .
Tokenizing assets ? Law or policy? by the government or a business? It's for our safety lol.
It's said that if the current track continues 3 businesses will own 60% of all single family homes in America by 2030. Some already own most of the properties in some Canadian cities.
They already own 86% of the sp 500 between 3 of them lol.
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Well let me tell you something - I've been around for awhile and what I see is that a country is weakened when it falls for the diversity lie - diversity isn't good for a country - when you have more and more of the population different in it's religion, race, nationality and culture you have a fragmented country - each group will push its agenda and when doing so you will have all kind of turmoil - and when things really get tough the country will break apart - Europe is now reaping the harvest of accepting so many immigrants from the Middle East - the same thing is happening here in the U. S. -
Another joke is this DEI program - which ends up putting people into positions where they have no business - just look at the female SS agents when Trump got shot - you have 5 ft 4 in female agents trying to cover a 6 ft 4 in president - and if you look close you can see one of them having a rough time putting her gun into her holster - she can't - what a joke - in the meantime - all is almost quiet on the southern front
That's right. First,though,you need someone to take out the rotting garbage. Trump,not being a politician,but,an excellent businessman,is well versed in that.Quote:
Originally Posted by longpointer
Those people on the security team were unbelievably inept fumbling and falling all over themselves. It's hard for me to believe they were in fact US Secret Service personnel,more like private contractors who had no clue what they were supposed to be doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Nearly 30 minutes they knew lol. A cop even went on to the the roof where the shooter then turned his gun on a police officer as the officer ran off. . So many failures. But when so many want him out of the way I guess you keep the show rolling. Even the leaked Hilary Clinton hack phone call needed him out of the race.
It would be an end to democracy if he is elected they say. We here that alot even from our own. But what democracy are we saving? The war in Ukraine is about to save democracy then they canceled their elections haha .
https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/alle...PHIMYBNXRTEBI/
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Pretty hard to blame the new world order, immigrants, communism and DEI when the shooter was white, a registered Republican and an active member of a gun club.
The new world order. Will be the death of America that's all. Adding a trillion dollars to its debt every 100 days , letting in more than some states alone will have devastating consequences. Trump is the last stall ,in the end all the paths are leading to the same road and yes China, Russia and the rest of the brics nations are playing a key roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
We see what's happening to all the g7 nations as the world is still booming
America is setting up for something much worse than the 08 crisis. As other countries are ditching the usa the debt will continue to pile. What happens when the rest of the world tells America to stick it . Other countries are stepping up they don't need the all mighty us dollar to do business anymore. Sanctions didn't work Russia is now back in the high income economy again.
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How's Canada doing from the immigration numbers? Adding 2 million more in a couple of years isn't helping the Canadians already existing. Our kids and grandchildren are lining up for a single position with hundreds of applicants. Our hospitals are still a mess 2 million without a doctor, our food banks are at it's limits, its not going to help with the housing either. Where's are millions of jobs to go along with the arrivals. It's so bad even the new arrivals are leaving lol. It's all for the better tho lol.
I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the show
Glad Joe got to witness the rise of a nation it must of been something. I'm lucky enough to watch the fall of an empire. Guess a new multipolar world is rising maybe the usa will still be a player who knows, your guess is as good as mine. But it ain't looking pretty China alone is dumping hundreds of billions of us treasuries. The usa needs the world the world doesn't need the usa anymore.
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You are entirely missing the point - the shooter has nothing to do with America collapsing - the progressives are the ones leading us down the path for ruin -Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
At 20y old he certainly wasnt a Repub for long, and may even have done so to attend political events. He was also using Daddys gun. Dad could have registered him into both memberships. If he was truly an actual range goer he may have had a few of his own firearms to choose from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Can't blame "this new world order" . Was just walking through the mall and noticed a sign. "early bird special 2 eggs 2 pieces bacon $8.99" and the places was busy enough. For me can't help to think eat at home for $2 and put the rest in your pocket and you'll be $16 bucks ahead in life. God helps those that take care of themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Yes, but don't even try to mention the REAL FACTS to those who have decided to easily gobble up the "alternative facts" fed to them constantly by FAUX 'news'! :rolleye:Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
It is fairly obvious to me that tRump and his band of criminals are clearly working for Russia.
The idea is that America has been corrupted from the INSIDE to help putin get his revenge for the break up of the old Soviet Union.
All governments play the "Public Sentiment" card and making it look like there are knee-jerk reactions to large events, while in reality all these plans have been 20 - 25 years in the making! Nobody looks at 1978/79 events that took place in Afghanistan and Iran, followed by Berlin Wall getting torn down in 1989 and the U.S.S.R. getting dismantled in 1991.
When September 11 happened, g.w.bush jumped on the megaphone and rallied the crowds to believe that they must attack Afghanistan immediately and the American public believed that with all they hearts! No logic needed.
I wouldn't be surprised if this poorly staged assassination attempt was indeed an inside job, by someone who coined the phrase "Alternative Facts". The game of politics can be a very dirty one and there is always a whole lot of smoke & mirrors that play their part in fooling the public. After all, do we know yet who really shot JFK?!
As an immigrant myself, I do not agree with all the immigration policies that exist in Canada, and we know that the American situation is a total mess too. The fine line is that RACISM rears its ugly head any chance it gets if you don't keep it under constant control. That "control" has to come from the government, but people working in various organizations always come and go, which means those policies are subject to flip-flopping always...
I witnessed the 1979 'revolution' in Iran, and I can draw parallels between what tRump is doing now and what the so-called 'ayatollahs' did then. If he manages to get back into the White House again, he won't just leave another stain as he did before. He will burn down the house and you can kiss the "UNITED" States Good-Bye.
Thanks for the reminder to increase my mining stock portfolio for tinfoil hats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkman
I can’t vote in the USA and Joepa is better informed so I’m fine with whoever he chooses.
Would it not be reasonable to assume Trumps second term would be like the first?
Why the worry then.
Nope! Assume NOTHING!Quote:
Originally Posted by glen
tRump is a narcissist who is all about HIMSELF, and then his immediate family.
He golfed a lot, added trillions to the deficit, ignored the pandemic, made sure that jared & ivanka took billion$ from
Saudi Arabia, etc., etc.
Then he got CAUGHT, and faced criminal charges - which he is not used to, because he has always gotten away with doing
creepy, criminal things for his own benefit. Now he is OPENLY promising wild retribution and sane Americans cannot understand
the support that he is mustering from the blindly following followers.
tRump has even resorted to playing the religious angle, hinting that he is from god, just like the ayatollahs did!!!
His only way to avoid prison is to find a way back into the White House somehow, and his gullible gang of supporters are playing
right into his hands, because they believe that he will make America great again AGAIN!
Little do they know that the first thing all dick-tators do, is to take away their guns, and limit the horsepower on their motorcycles.
It is absolutely incredible to be witnessing this slow motion disaster in 2024. If they manage to pull it off, it will be the ultimate conspiracy and it will change the history of mankind in a major way.
As margarine taylor green vomit suggested a few months ago, there will be a "national divorce" between the red states and the blue states, completing putin's plan for the break up of the USA, and putting an end to its Super Power status.
Well....... you're entitled to an opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkman
Yes, so are you!Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Thanks for stating the obvious.
Racist America got so furious that a fantastic BLACK man occupied the White House for 8 years.
They then got even by voting in a most incoherent con-man simply because he demonstrated an open hate for whom THEY hated themselves.
tRump has never been about "love" of ANY kind. He only fans the flames of HATE and appeals to those people who love to HATE.
People did not vote for Joe Biden because they liked him to be their President, but they did NOT want four more years of a mobster at the helm, so Biden got the votes.
A very smart man by the name of Bill Maher had correctly predicted that tRump won't go easily if he loses the 2020 election, so then came the shameless, unprecedented insurrection. mike pence was lucky to avoid the noose. It is understood and EXPECTED that tRump will NOT accept the results of the 2024 election either - unless HE WINS.
In any other country the military would have taken the reigns away from the incompetent politicians and 'judges' a long time ago.
It's going to be a very interesting few months ahead, as the grown-ups watch the kids pick burning logs from the campfire...
An organization was born in 1971 today its stated on united nations that it uses that organizations standards on its climate policies. It's also pointed out on our Canadian government documents that it uses the united nations standards for climate policies. So what organization are the policies coming from? Love my tin hatQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
We the Canadian taxpayers even paid them 500 million to conger up a study to support its climate tax. We also give them them 100s of billions over the years as the tax payers .
They have said to Penetrated our liberal cabinet .
Any guess as to who has been keeping track of the people for decades. They said we are hackable animals,. They know how fast you read and when your interested or not . They are all about control,they are masters at manipulation and data.
Again I like my tinfoil
They own almost everything they employ most of us . They have the influence and they know it
Call me crazy but they all just met in China last month wonder why.
Our leaders sold us out long ago . They sold out Ukraine and now look at who's building it back. The guys fighting with shovles I guess the same guys with shovles are kicking the Americans out of Africa and also western companies. Again wonder why lol.
But don't worry we are funding them for another 5 years as it's stated on the government of Canada. Also just before they big date of 2030 . Haha. Again funding them is funding them . 55 years their influence is bigger than you think and our policy makers are all the same people with the same plan. That's 5 decades of planning and they are planning the next 50 years. So much so they are paying it forward when they move on so will the organization with thier wealth.
Our finance minister sits on their board. It's stated on that board that all members have to do best for its organization.
So who's policy are we following ? Not a conspiracy. It's in bold on government ink.
Our pm said he loves the dictatorship of China.
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That is a reasonable assumption. If Trump wins, look for a more stable US, reduced immigration and the end of the wars in Ukraine and Gaza.Quote:
Originally Posted by glen
Maybe even the resurrection of the Keystone pipeline. Maybe the US becoming energy independent again.
Apparently one has to for some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkman
Many were Homeland Security not specifically versed in PSD at the level the Secret Squirrels are.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
DEI= DIE
More of the same BS from Blackrock. Check out some of their commercials, sources say they knew the shooter well enough to put him in their commercial.
Meh, gotta be just another conspiracy theory right?
You mean like this current headline: "Joe Biden uses Trump shooting to call for a ban on assault weapons." Personal I thought the kid was using too light of a caliber, initially I thought he was off target because of windage, but later when I saw the video it was because Trump's head wavered bit to the right. The thing that made it look more like a school shooting rather than an assassination attempt was the fact the kid kept shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
High left = Bad shot. Recoil. Story of my life ha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Nut
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It keeps getting better and better. They keep coming with the excuses. In the end it's a failure on the secret service. They took pictures of the kid with a range finder 26 minutes before. They then took pictures again when he came back with a bag. When the officer spotted the gun on the roof it should of been lights out. Not after he pulled the trigger. As it was only seconds after the first shot it was over. They already had him in their sights for it to end so fast. Why did they stand down ,did they stand down? There was a reported firearm minutes before
2 .
They are blaming the slope of the roof a safety concern so they choose to secure from the inside. They failed end of story he managed get on top of their secured command posts. You would think if they are staged inside and they reported suspicious activity they would of been on it.
His parents also called the police hours before as he was apparently missing and so was the rifle. More questions lol.
Also I don't think the roof wasn't any more sloped then the other one they had positions. There is a good slope bad slope picture going around and the snippers seem to be on more of a slope slope.
Heck they blasted kids away for waving a knife around lol.
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and went to jail for it. Can't blame them waiting until beyond probable cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Civilian on the st vs a confirmed gunman moments before the shooting at presidential campaign lol. No comparisons .Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
Beyond having a gun spotted with a rangefinder ect . Is Beyond probable cause is a dead president lol.
How long is a moment? I'll be there in a moment. All the mainstream said a moment try almost 4 minutes. 3 minutes too long sorry .
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Why I am voting for Trump -
- he stands for elimination of big government - our founders knew the danger when the government takes away the freedom and liberty of its citizens - they limited the power of government in the constitution - the progressives have continued to build big government and as a result freedom is lost
- he stands for the independence of energy by allowing the drilling for oil and natural gas on federal land - and cut the regulations that hinder the exploration of this energy
- he stands for a strong military and is against the introduction of DEI woke crap into the military
- he supports the 2nd amendment allowing citizens their God given right to own guns to protect themselves and their families
-he is a strong leader something our enemies respect - in contrast to the Biden administration weakness
-he is a strong supporter of Israel the only democracy in the Middle East
-he is not part of the deep state and has and will continue to clean up the mess in Washington -
- he recognizes the unique character of the USA and wants to preserve this uniqueness against the progressives that want to change our country
- he was successful in getting judges on the Supreme Court who honor the constitution - limiting bureaucrats who are not elected from making laws - getting the federal government out of RvsW and putting this issue in the hands of the states where it belonged -
- supports the free market that has given the USA the greatest economy in the world
- he has a plan help minorities who need help to achieve the American Dream
-he will close the southern border and eliminate the illegal immigrants from entering the USA
When you look at the Biden administration there is nothing to be proud of - it is a total failure
Those are some good reasons and would get my vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
They're also good reasons why the deepstate is afraid of him and demonized him daily for the past 8 years lol..yeah he tweeted to much but who was reporting the tweeting our very own media who doesn't want him in the way.
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There should be no confusion(within the security detail), any issue AT ALL and the asset gets pulled instantly OR is delayed from entering that environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
To have an issue with such unknown capabilities as a loose, suspicious attendee certainly warrants the pulling of the asset or delaying exposure to that environment.
We’ve seen whole airports shutdown until a suspicious person is validated.
The security detail in Butler either dropped the ball or were complicit.
This is a black and white situation with no grey. Either the detail is successful, or the asset is damaged.
It is troubling that an agency with such lofty responsibilities and storied past would debase itself with such amateurish excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
My tripod fits any slope that I could possibly position on. The fact that an excuse like roof slope was even uttered shows total ignorance of overwatch and counter sniper operations. Several in the detail and the Director should resign or be fired.
I actually hope Trump win's, I love the free entertainment from the a clown.
Here is a reddit post of the 2 roof slopes lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/co...t_building_in/
She should step down from here position after such a failure.
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DEI at it's finest? It's beginning to look like that.
This is happening all across the board - no longer is the most qualified person picked for the job - now it is race and gender that determines who gets the job - I read that in a certain sector 95% of the new hires out of college were minorities - if your a smart white male with a very high college score you have 2 strikes against you - so you can't be surprised when things become all screwed up - so when your laying on the operating table for some major surgery it is somewhat scary that the person doing the job was last in the class and only admitted to medical school because of DEI -Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
It has almost completely run its course in the States. Many Corps. are eliminating their programs(Microsoft, Deere, TSC). Blackmailing corporations to install DEI isn’t likely to foster genuine support. In addition the benefits of DEI are dubious at best and dangerous at worst. Here’s a novel concept you don’t see enough today: hire the best qualified for the job AND that demonstrates the skillset(knowledge based AND skill based.)Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
I agree, plus looking at sat. imagery from friends and what’s been on tv, it looks like they were short handed at least in CS bodies. The 2 CS team were North and South facing until the South team had to cover North also. Seems lots of prime real estate was up for grabs and possibly the best CS position was vacant(the water tower).Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
The SS were told by Butler PD Chief that he had no resources leftover for the staging area roof. Me thinks Jill’s trip to PA pulled enough SS assets away from Butler Rally detail to play a part.
Republica de Ragusa -Mediterranean.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
Middle ages.
There was an elected Individual in charge(knowledgabe person allright).The person was living in luxury.This to make the job wanted.
The job was having one month mandate-time is up=you are out.This was to assure no one grows to the power,and/or works out alliances and path for abuse of power,
The person was having limited contact with the world.This to assure "no outside influence-interference"
The person would make decisions based on Facts,not names,places or individuals.No name-position or relation was "ever"processed in decision making.Just "what-why-where-how-when".This is to avoid unneeded bias.
Maybe we can learn from the old-timers?
The entire assassination attempt just stinks of massive corruption. If they wanted to take Trump out one would think they would have hired a trained a sniper from Iran or Russia shooting from another hidden position like they did when they took out JFK...
Trump has to be very careful because there are a lot of people who would like to see him dead - now and even when he is president -Quote:
Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter
The deepstate runs both parties. Wonder how many know the same people funding them is also bragging about prosecuting their supporters from Jan 6th. Also the same people who have been tracking your data for eons . Been alot of talk about Peter theil and Vance connections.
Also talk of Jamie diamond getting a position in power. Yikes more weffers at the helm. .
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