The Big LIe

For years we have been told that diversity is good - this thought was shoved down our throats - diversity - diversity - that's all that we heard - well we are now reaping this misconception - now we have all kinds of cultures clashing with each other - our country is divided because of diversity - it is common sense if you have a country that is made up of all kinds of cultures there is going to be problems - it weakens a country - when hard times come the country will be split apart from each group looking out for themselves - there is a thin covering over the problems that exist - Jewish vs Arab - gay vs straight - pro abortrion vs pro life - rich vs poor - communist vs capitalist - green energy vs fossil fuel - the list goes on - do you think these groups are going to work together to solve big problems - they ain't - that's why it is predicted that America will destroy itself from within -

Bingo, you win Joe.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

For years we have been told that diversity is good - this thought was shoved down our throats - diversity - diversity - that's all that we heard - well we are now reaping this misconception - now we have all kinds of cultures clashing with each other - our country is divided because of diversity - it is common sense if you have a country that is made up of all kinds of cultures there is going to be problems - it weakens a country - when hard times come the country will be split apart from each group looking out for themselves - there is a thin covering over the problems that exist - Jewish vs Arab - gay vs straight - pro abortrion vs pro life - rich vs poor - communist vs capitalist - green energy vs fossil fuel - the list goes on - do you think these groups are going to work together to solve big problems - they ain't - that's why it is predicted that America will destroy itself from within -

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Here lies the problem Joe. You constantly say you live in a country that has gives you great rights and freedoms however it seems from your observation those righhts and freedoms are about to destroy your country.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Here lies the problem Joe. You constantly say you live in a country that has gives you great rights and freedoms however it seems from your observation those righhts and freedoms are about to destroy your country.

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No - what I'm saying is that letting a large number of immigrants into this country that have a culture completely different then what is "American" only causes discourse - often times the culture that they bring with them directly clashes with the native culture - the point I was trying to make is that diversity - as it was being sold - hurts a country - it divides the population - we see that in so many areas right now - some of these differences create not only animosity but out right hate -

Joe is absolutely right. We only need to look at our own country to see what a catastrophic failure "diversity" has become.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Joe is absolutely right. We only need to look at our own country to see what a catastrophic failure "diversity" has become.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

No - what I'm saying is that letting a large number of immigrants into this country that have a culture completely different then what is "American" only causes discourse - often times the culture that they bring with them directly clashes with the native culture - the point I was trying to make is that diversity - as it was being sold - hurts a country - it divides the population - we see that in so many areas right now - some of these differences create not only animosity but out right hate -

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Damn right. Letting all those Irish in the the 19th century just ruined America. You give the Chinese good jobs building a railroad and they stay and open restaurants. Then those dang Italians and their greasy salami. Same with the Poles. Don't even talk the the Jews. They write backward.

The words of the Statue of Liberty are: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Did they run out of room before the part that says "but only if you are white, speak English and worship the baby Jesus" or did the engraver get tired. He was probably Italian anyway.

Well said. :)
My family ( German Hessians) came here in 1776 to fight with the British in the American Revolution. As you know , they lost and hurried to Canada where they received land in Prince Edward County. We are all immigrants.

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Damn right. Letting all those Irish in the the 19th century just ruined America. You give the Chinese good jobs building a railroad and they stay and open restaurants. Then those dang Italians and their greasy salami. Same with the Poles. Don't even talk the the Jews. They write backward.

The words of the Statue of Liberty are: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Did they run out of room before the part that says "but only if you are white, speak English and worship the baby Jesus" or did the engraver get tired. He was probably Italian anyway.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

No - what I'm saying is that letting a large number of immigrants into this country that have a culture completely different then what is "American" only causes discourse - often times the culture that they bring with them directly clashes with the native culture - the point I was trying to make is that diversity - as it was being sold - hurts a country - it divides the population - we see that in so many areas right now - some of these differences create not only animosity but out right hate -

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So who's native Joe? Are you truely native or did your immigrant culture clash with existing native culture. Can't have it both ways. you created the same problems for others as the ones coming in are creating for you. Basic pot calling the kettle black. If America/Americans truely practice what they preach thing would be better for all but as long as you believe freedom for me and screw everyone else than yes your country is going to pot faster than watching ice melt in August.

OK,let's talk about the Elephant in the room for moment,shall we? It's all well and good to state that,at some point,immigrants came to America mostly from Europe where the predominant ethic was caucasian Judeo-Christian/Roman Catholic. That was a virtually universal common denominator save African slaves brought here as captives (a whole other issue we'll set aside,for now). The inconvenient truth being ignored is that the vast majority of immigrants being allowed into the country virtually unvetted are coming from Muslim countries where the avowed ethic is "death to the infidel". Now,I'm sure most liberal-minded people don't quite grasp the concept that that includes most of them,too. Isn't that akin to allowing the Coyotes into the sheep barn?

Immigration is a good thing it can also have devastating consequences bringing in excessive amounts of people without the proper resources. When you bring them as a tool for the papers to look good to keep us out of a recession then what? Future voter's? Canada increased its population by 3 percent is it helping the people already here? When you add in more people than the state of New York it can have negative effects when it's rushed in and silenced don't talk about it was in the government documents it was the plan. What about Canada's skilled workers opps . When you give big businesses insensitives and saves then almost 10 thousands dollars a worker who pays for the insensitives the people do and they also loose out to new comers. Who's got win win?

Biggest migration since the cold war while the population was already struggling.

This video
Shows who really behind the scenes. They both show 2 sides

https://youtu.be/Bk66WyMBjvQ?si=zd6Hl2xo41KxYaBl

This video is a w5 documentary shows the same but different narrative. Not who is behind the scenes. Both great documents of what's happening and the struggles through the darien gap.

https://youtu.be/g_bKANcqJDY?si=VrAPpHwd0QNgYJwl


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You guys are missing the point - nothing wrong with letting Irish - German - Italians - Polish - and others into our country - they all have a lot in common - I'd say the same culture - letting others who have entirely different cultures is something else - and now let me ask - is our countries stronger or weaker because of their immigration policies - from what I see our countries are now embroiled in all kinds of demonstrations and divided - I think a country that is made up of people who have a lot of similarities is stronger than a country made up of all kind of people from all over the world - that's all - heck my folks came from Germany - can't be against that

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Originally Posted by JoePa

- heck my folks came from Germany - can't be against that

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That explains all. There was another German guy that said the world would better if everyone was like me. We all know what that cost us all.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

That explains all. There was another German guy that said the world would better if everyone was like me. We all know what that cost us all.

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If that was an attempt at humor,it fell flatter than pee on a plate. I'm sure that doesn't apply here.

My 2 cents on the topic of immigration. We want and need immigrants that want to be here and become citizens that will work and build our country to be the best it can be. This is what immigration was for the last at least 100 years if not more. They came, they worked, they built lives and families. They brought their culture BUT fit into the North American dream.
We didn't have Italian, Poles, Germans, etc. forcing their views on the local population. You didn't see very many of them blowing up airlines, chopping off heads, basically treating human life as something that is worthless if you disagree with their beliefs.
This I believe is the major problem these days, too many useless people wanting to come here because they have almost complete immunity to terrorize the locals and GASP! will be threatened with a plane ticket back home to reuse the revolving door that is now our border.
John

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

That explains all. There was another German guy that said the world would better if everyone was like me. We all know what that cost us all.

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Boy how people can twist things around - and then end up in left field - my original point was that a lot of unrest that is happening in our countries is because we have too many different cultures mixed up together and this weakens a country - that's all - nothing else - it makes common sense that this is a true statement - never mentioned any culture in particular - who knows maybe I like a weak country where 10 different languages are spoken - where 10 different religions are practiced - where I guy can have 10 wives - who knows - meanwhile all is almost quiet on the southern front -

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Originally Posted by johnjyb

My 2 cents on the topic of immigration. We want and need immigrants that want to be here and become citizens that will work and build our country to be the best it can be. This is what immigration was for the last at least 100 years if not more. They came, they worked, they built lives and families. They brought their culture BUT fit into the North American dream.
We didn't have Italian, Poles, Germans, etc. forcing their views on the local population. You didn't see very many of them blowing up airlines, chopping off heads, basically treating human life as something that is worthless if you disagree with their beliefs.
This I believe is the major problem these days, too many useless people wanting to come here because they have almost complete immunity to terrorize the locals and GASP! will be threatened with a plane ticket back home to reuse the revolving door that is now our border.
John

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So true. When my German relatives came here, they changed their name several times to not sound too German. They wanted to get along with the Loyalists. Does make research on the family tree hard though. :)

The problem with your argument FFF, is that the immigration in the past was not in the scale of the mass waves we are seeing now and that those that came were willing to join that great American melting pot. These days our left-leaning politicians are insulting our past more often than not and creating instant victims out of anyone who is non-white.

Why can't we all just get along! lol

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Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter

Why can't we all just get along! lol

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Because we all have different ideas as to what is right or wrong - how things should be changed - fixed - exactly the point I was making - take abortion - some feel it is ok to do away with a baby at anytime of pregnancy while others thing this is murder - how are these folks going to get along - or those that think we should take away from the haves and give it to the have nots - the list goes on - it ain't gonna happen

Until civilization as a whole begins looking at the things we have in common instead of what we don't have in common then we will lose the battle. At the heart of every religion is a thing called "love". We should start with that and build from there!

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Originally Posted by huntervinni

Until civilization as a whole begins looking at the things we have in common instead of what we don't have in common then we will lose the battle. At the heart of every religion is a thing called "love". We should start with that and build from there!

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Boy - I don't know that every religion has a thing called love - some of those hard line Muslims have a scary kind of love - either join or get your head chopped off