Where would one find the regulations for hunting crow in southern ontario?
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Where would one find the regulations for hunting crow in southern ontario?
Crows are open all year with no limit in southern Ontario...
pg 13 of the regs... http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...ent/251888.pdf
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A small game licence tag
also permits you to hunt American crow, brown-headed
cowbird, common grackle, house sparrow, red-winged
blackbird or starlings and other animals not scheduled
under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997 (e.g.,
groundhogs)**.
im just trying to wrap my head around what makes it legal?Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntCamp'r
so because its not scheduled under the fish and wildlife conversation act,
i can hunt it anytime i wish, with no limits.
For example.. Porcupine?
also im interested in hunting crows as i want to practice for waterfowl and i am new at this,
do i really need decoys for crows? i seem to get them alot, (and hawks) when i try to call
in coyotes with my ecaller, would using decoys make that big of a difference?
thank you for your help
US citizens are NOT allowed to hunt crows in Ontario -- I would suggest you buy an electronic crow caller -- maybe 12 decoys --hide well and shoot fast -- best to be on a flight line not where the roost or feed but some where along the route -- fence lines are best if you can stay hidden --you might have to build a decent blind that they don't recognize as one --use shot birds as decoys --GOOD LUCK
Crow decoys are very useful and can be had at the Dollar Store in a few weeks as they sell them for Holloweve...
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Originally Posted by godheadx
They cause a lot of damage, it's not that they have low numbers.. Just find a roost and TRY to count the number of birds that come in... There is a reason that a group of crows are called a "Murder of crows". They have been known to kill lambs, calf, and fawns while ewe, cow, or doe is giving birth.
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Originally Posted by fratri
Don't forget the Owl decoy:thumbup:. A "dead" crow decoy sitting on the ground in front or hanging under if the owl is on a post/tree/stump.
I didn't realise that crows are that bad.
I guess this:
A small game licence tag
also permits you to hunt American crow, brown-headed
cowbird, common grackle, house sparrow, red-winged
blackbird or starlings and other animals not scheduled
under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997 (e.g.,
groundhogs)**."
also applies to pigeons?
yes it does , common pigeons that you see in town and around barns , [ rock doves ], not to be confused with mourning doves .Quote:
also applies to pigeons?
This is a bummer. I hunt crows hard during our season, but could have a field day on the farm.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigvenison
Electronics are the way to go. Brings 'em in fast and angry. Plug a few and move to the next spot.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7170/6...726c3998_z.jpg
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Originally Posted by bigvenison
I've never seen that in print any where...You get a link, or name of the act it's under.
Operative word is Ontario ResidentQuote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
From the MNR guide book
"In addition, Ontario residents may hunt American crow, brown-headed cowbird, red-winged blackbird, common grackle, starling and house sparrows. Chukar is not included in the tables but may be hunted in some circumstances. Call your local MNR office for more information "
Another example from an Ontario guide service
Small Game Licenses and Tags
This license authorizes a non-resident to hunt game birds (except wild turkey), rabbits and hares in most areas, raccoon (except at night), and black, grey, and fox squirrels but not red squirrels. You are not authorized to hunt American crow, brown-headed cowbird, common grackle, house sparrow, red-winged blackbirds, or starlings. $90.00.
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Originally Posted by wadevb1
Maybe the guide service does not want to clean up the mess, but I guess it's possible.. I have not encounter any other province that restricts Non-residents from shooting them, or other nuisance animals( Coyotes being the exception because of being a fur bearer). Their guides also say resident, but when you call and ask they say, If you have the license then you shoot them generally.
It would be a good question to put to a CO..
Once shot do you need to harvest anything or just leave them for other crows?
I've often heard of "eating crow", but never had to do it.....
Ya I guess I walked into that one :-/
Just clean them up by picking them out of the field and leaving them in a place that is out of sight of people and the raccoons and others will take care of the rest for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by apattenden
Now if you are getting YOUNG crows I have heard you can eat them. I don't think they would be much different then Rooks baked into a pie...You know the song 4 and 20 twenty black birds( meaning crows, rooks, brown head, and red wing) baked in a pie?
i have had them come to rabbit call
Hey Squaretail~what exactly is an electronic crow caller? I'm hoping to do some crow hunting this coming fall winter, I have some plastic decoys and a cheap mouth call....just shopping for some camo! I've done a few coyote sets with a buddy who has a FoxPro and that thing sure gets the crow's attention...but I ran "electronic crow caller" into Google and didn't see anything crow specific? (other than some cassette tapes of crow recordings) I'd like to put the odds in my favor, but buying a FoxPro might not be in the cards for me right now. Have to put a new roof on the house!Quote:
Originally Posted by Squaretail
On a side note, I almost got a shot off on 2 of them Saturday with the .223. They busted me before I could even get my finger on the trigger. #1. Was out groundhog hunting and spotted a few of them in a newly cut hay field that had remnants of corn from the previous year. I was 350 yards out, belly-crawling over the crest of a hill....and they still took off. Actually, one did right away...the others held-off for about 3 seconds then followed the lead. Smart birds. #2 Pulled into another hay field and there were a few in the slightly deeper hay... All of them took off but 1, and it stuck around until I got the rifle out of the truck and loaded. If it was a shotgun instead of a rifle, I could have easily got it.
Many years ago OOD mag ran a recipe for black bird pie. I think they used red wing black birds. It raised quite a stink and they got quite a few letters from people claiming you couldn't shoot them because they were a song bird. I would think that if you thought the bird was feeding more on crops like corn and less on dead animals then it might not taste too bad. Wish I still had that issue of the magazine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
How about this one:Quote:
Originally Posted by shorst97
Black Bird Pie
Ingredients:
3 1/2 cups self-rising flour
1 cup very warm water (almost hot)
Directions:
Mix little biscuit dough. Knead 'til tough and dry - roll with rolling pin 'til very thin and cut into 2-inch strips.
(Clean birds according to information posted under recipe)
BIRDS:
25 black birds well covered with water
3/4 lb. sausage (link) - optional
Cook until tender (at least 2 hours or 1 hour for chicken). Salt and pepper to taste. When black birds are tender, keep broth at a rolling boil and drop in pastry - piece by piece, shaking pot constantly to keep pastry pieces separated. When all is in pot, place cover on and let cook for approximately 10 minutes. Let set for about ten more minutes. Then eat.
If you are unfamiliar with making pastry from scratch, you can substitute canned biscuits (roll individually with rolling pin). Or buy frozen pastry from bakery. If you use canned biscuits, let set for one-half hour and roll or flatten again to thinness desired.
Game Birds:
Game birds offer the most varied and perhaps the most delicious wild meat. Ranging from the rich, tangy flavor of the miniature woodcock up to a magnificent wild turkey or Canada goose, they provide a range of flavor delicacy as wide as the variation of the sport in hunting for them. The quality and flavor of game birds, however, depends to a very large extent, on the care they receive after the hunter has bagged them.
The simple rules to follow are these: The birds should be drawn soon after they have been shot. The body heat should be allowed to cool as quickly as possible. The birds should be kept cool or at cold temperatures until they are to be cooked. Game birds should be bled, cleaned and cooled quickly after shooting. And as you clean them, be sure to remove the oil sacs at the base of the back near the tail. Also be sure to carry a portable ice chest to speed cooling and to protect the birds from spoilage during the trip home.
When testing game birds to determine those which are young and tender, the stiffness of the bill is usually significant. If pheasants and grouse, for example, can be lifted by the lower jaw and nothing breaks, they are mature birds whose james are set. They will not be as tender and will require more cooking than the younger, less developed.
Game birds should be skinned if only the breast will be used or if they are tough and will be used in stews or casseroles. Otherwise, the birds should be plucked. This helps keep the meat more moist and tender.
Be sure you remove any shot pellets and cut away any badly shot up areas. Cut off the wings and feet of small birds with shears. Then, cut small birds up the backbone, remove the lungs, wash and drain.
Cut larger birds into pieces, the same as you would a chicken. You'll also find the livers from medium and large-sized birds are big enough to save and will taste very similar to chicken livers.
Here's another hint. Freezing a bird for a week or two will help tenderize it.
NOTE about DUCKS: In the fall, ducks usually have fine- flavored meat, and any stuffing can be used with them. At other times of the year, they may be more strongly flavored and are improved by soaking the cleaned birds for 2-3 hours in fairly strong salted water to which 1 tsp. baking soda has been added. If ducks prepared this way are to be kept under refrigeration for a few days, after wiping them dry, put a few slices of onion in the body cavity. This will help remove the excess gamey taste, and the onion is to be discarded before the ducks are cooked.
However, like all game birds, ducks should be allowed to hang at a temperature just above freezing for at least 48 hours before they are cooked. The length of time and temperature at which they are allowed to hang beyond that period will control how "high" or gamey they are allowed to become. This should be determined by personal taste.
When preparing game birds, you can cook young birds by broiling, roasting, or in any of your other favorite recipes. But older birds should be stewed or braised to tenderize them. Or if you wish, you can try a commercial tenderizer. Just sprinkle the tenderizer in the body cavity of the bird and let the bird stand in the refrigerator. The amount of time the bird needs to remain in the refrigerator depends on the size of the bird. For example, a large bird such as a turkey, will need 12 to 24 hours for the tenderizer to work.
If you're not sure how many servings you'll get from each bird this may help you: *1 serving = 2 quail, 1-2 squab, 2-3 doves, or 1 small duck. *You can figure on at least 2 servings from 1 pheasant or 1 large duck. *A 4-6 lb. goose should feed 4-6 people.
Next to the raven they are considered the smartest bird. Very intelligent, cunning and destructive. There are some great videos on people working with them. They say if you get one as a chick and slice they're tongue they can talk like a parrot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
Sorry for bringing up an old thread everyone... I'm interested in doing some crow hunting. On page 15 of the 2015 Ontario Hunting Summary it states:
"A small game licence tag also permits you to hunt Americancrow, brown-headed cowbird, common grackle, house sparrow,red-winged blackbird or starlings and other animals notscheduled under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997(e.g., groundhogs)** "
Is my interpretation of this correct in crows being open all year as long as the hunter has a small game license obviously?
Sorry for a dumb question.
Yes, mine too.... good to go at least down here in southern Ontario.... and no dumb questions, only dumb responses...Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie
yes you may hunt crows all year in Ontario Dutch
Thanks guys.
This is my way as well. TSC has a Owl Decoy on sale this week. Dollar store crows set up around owl decoy does have an effect on the crows aggression. The next day you hunt over crow bodies for coyote, if anything is left from overnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
So does this mean you can hunt any small game without a licence in all of Ontario all year round? Or does it mean you can't?Quote:
Originally Posted by dutchhunter
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A small game licence tag also permits you to hunt American crow, brown-headed cowbird, common grackle, house sparrow, red-winged blackbird or starlings and other animals not scheduled under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997 (e.g., groundhogs)**.
This licence is not valid in northern Ontario and part of central Ontario from June 16 to August 31,
You can hunt crow all year long in Ontario with a valid small game license but in some areas of Ontario the small game license is not valid in Northern Ontario so therefore in some areas of Northern Ontario you cannot hunt anything that requires a small game license during this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wahoo
If you check the WMU maps at www.ontario.ca/hunting you'll see a notation on the right side of the southern zone map that says something like "No Small game licences valid between.....above this line." The line extends across the province.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wahoo
Yea....I've always wondered why that cutoff date was there.....of course "up north" you would have to make sure you were shooting crows and not Ravens !!Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21