Outdoor Card cash grab???

I'm not sure if this topic has already been posted but can someone tell me why we need to purchase an outdoor card other than it being the law?

I remember before the card existed I had a paper fishing license, hunting license and tags. The ministry came out with the outdoors card to rid of all the paper lic/tags by having little stickers fixed to the card. That was a great way to keep everything organized and safe from loss or damage. They now got rid of the stickers and went back to paper tags and licenses. Okay great (not really)... so what is the need for the card?
I bought the 3 yr fishing and small game with mine but whats the point? What if I didn't have the cash at the time to purchase the licenses and just renewed the card? What good is it other than to allow me to buy a license? Why do I have to pay a fee in order to be privileged with my right to buy a fishing/hunting license? Am I not Canadian? Is it a donation? If so why cant I right it off? My Picture is not on it so it cant be used as legal Identification.

What good is it?

You live in Ontario, expect to pay through the teeth. lol

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Originally Posted by woody1948

You live in Ontario, expect to pay through the teeth. lol

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LOL You hit it on the head there Woody but don't we deserve a legit answer from the MNR? When do we say enough is enough? Dont we pay enough?

Vote Liberals, when you turn on the lights "They Get Ya ' when you renew your Outdoors Card "They Get ya" We were all told that the money will go back into the MNR ! " They got ya " Now you cant read the damn things- french " They got ya again" when will everyone learn ! " They Got ya "

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Originally Posted by odm2

LOL You hit it on the head there Woody but don't we deserve a legit answer from the MNR? When do we say enough is enough? Dont we pay enough?

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Legit answer... From those bozos.. Ya...

Guess its the cost of book keeping. Fees to manage draws or process lost cards need to come from somewhere.

I heard a rumor they outsourced the printing to the USA, guess they should have chosen China

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Originally Posted by thunderbelly

I heard a rumor they outsourced the printing to the USA, guess they should have chosen China

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That's not a rumor..

Thank the LIEBERALS for getting screwed over AGAIN!

Ya tell me about all this fee bull stuff outsourced tags from Texas. And our trade fees tripling in cost awesome!!!

Driver's license as well. Once we qualify for a license why do we have to keep renewing them??

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Originally Posted by Rodbender

Ya about an outdoors card try getting your licenced trades person licence now was $90 for 5 years now $119 per year just came into effect this year

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HOLY CRAP!!!!!

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Guess its the cost of book keeping. Fees to manage draws or process lost cards need to come from somewhere.

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The amount we pay for licenses and tags should cover book keeping and draws. If we didnt have a card then the cost of processing lost cards would be abolished.

The outdoor card is cheap less then 10$ for 3 years...

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Originally Posted by red x

The outdoor card is cheap less then 10$ for 3 years...

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Yes.. But he's not complaining about the cost as much as the fact that he needs one.. Why does everyone just say.. Ah.. It's cheap.. Just a few bucks..

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Originally Posted by red x

The outdoor card is cheap less then 10$ for 3 years...

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Thats not the point

My guess, since we have the option to get 3 yr. fishing and small game licenses on these cards is that the gov't would have no way to get and hold our money, for 3 yrs? Buying a 3 yr. license is just lending the gov't our money, interest free.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

My guess, since we have the option to get 3 yr. fishing and small game licenses on these cards is that the gov't would have no way to get and hold our money, for 3 yrs? Buying a 3 yr. license is just lending the gov't our money, interest free.

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good point

So the card with 3 year sports fishing and 3 year small game went up $30 from the last 3 year period. Can we expect the same every 3 years? Likely.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

My guess, since we have the option to get 3 yr. fishing and small game licenses on these cards is that the gov't would have no way to get and hold our money, for 3 yrs? Buying a 3 yr. license is just lending the gov't our money, interest free.

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HA really: How many people buy there vehicle stickers for two years at a time, not many I,ll bet. We should also get the OFAH two try and get the small game license free after age 65 like the fishing.

I don't think it's a great mystery. The card identifies you as someone that is entitled to hunt. As long as you have that card you can pick up a license to hunt whatever species you're interested in hunting. Remember, lots of folks still pick up their license at the last minute from the local Canadian Tire etc., and they need to know you're a legal hunter. How is it different from a drivers license? If you want to really get worked up about cost, take a peek at how much they deduct from your pay cheque each pay period.

Most places I hunt (except ON) all you need is a Driver's license to prove residency(or other documents)to get ANY Hunt or Fish, Trap license if born before 1973. If after 1973 one must attend a Game Warden run hunter/safety course. Once that is established there is only a trip to WalMart to get whatever license you need or online or any licensing agent.

No license for any outdoors activity from 65 years old and older.

I am a small business owner and Collect HST for the government. When I pay that money I have a $7.50 dollar administration fee to pay them their own dam money. But keep smiling because it will only get worse.

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Originally Posted by Gregoire1960

I don't think it's a great mystery. The card identifies you as someone that is entitled to hunt. As long as you have that card you can pick up a license to hunt whatever species you're interested in hunting. Remember, lots of folks still pick up their license at the last minute from the local Canadian Tire etc., and they need to know you're a legal hunter. How is it different from a drivers license? If you want to really get worked up about cost, take a peek at how much they deduct from your pay cheque each pay period.

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You're right, it is no mystery. The outdoors card system is redundant now that the licensing system has changed ,yet again. In this day and age of computers, a person should be able to go to a license issuer and show ID. The issuer logs your info into the puter and viola! It would show that you are a legal hunter, qualified to obtain a license. That info is already in the system.
As I said earlier, I believe the card only exists now so the gov't can (under the guise of convenience) issue you a 3 yr. fishing and/or small game license. They get to play with your money for the next couple of yrs for free.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

You're right, it is no mystery. The outdoors card system is redundant now that the licensing system has changed ,yet again. In this day and age of computers, a person should be able to go to a license issuer and show ID. The issuer logs your info into the puter and viola! It would show that you are a legal hunter, qualified to obtain a license. That info is already in the system.
As I said earlier, I believe the card only exists now so the gov't can (under the guise of convenience) issue you a 3 yr. fishing and/or small game license. They get to play with your money for the next couple of yrs for free.

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The outdoors card IS THE ID. Until they tie all databases in the province together you'll need some form of ID to show you're a hunter. There will some day be a universal card for all provincial gov't licences (there are LOTS of them, I have no less than 6 of them in my wallet) and then people will be really happy....... or will complain about "big brother" watching them.

Won't they be able to just put all that info on 'the chip'....once they insert that, all they'll have to do is scan your arm..voila :)

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Originally Posted by hunter391

HA really: How many people buy there vehicle stickers for two years at a time, not many I,ll bet. We should also get the OFAH two try and get the small game license free after age 65 like the fishing.

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Great Idea! Our seniors deserve it in my opinion!!!

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Originally Posted by Gregoire1960

I don't think it's a great mystery. The card identifies you as someone that is entitled to hunt. As long as you have that card you can pick up a license to hunt whatever species you're interested in hunting. Remember, lots of folks still pick up their license at the last minute from the local Canadian Tire etc., and they need to know you're a legal hunter. How is it different from a drivers license? If you want to really get worked up about cost, take a peek at how much they deduct from your pay cheque each pay period.

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Thats what computers are for.

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Originally Posted by skypilot

Most places I hunt (except ON) all you need is a Driver's license to prove residency(or other documents)to get ANY Hunt or Fish, Trap license if born before 1973. If after 1973 one must attend a Game Warden run hunter/safety course. Once that is established there is only a trip to WalMart to get whatever license you need or online or any licensing agent.

No license for any outdoors activity from 65 years old and older.

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Where are you from!?!?! It sounds Dreamy!!! LOL

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Originally Posted by wheelie

I am a small business owner and Collect HST for the government. When I pay that money I have a $7.50 dollar administration fee to pay them their own dam money. But keep smiling because it will only get worse.

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Ugh.... I'm sorry I started such a negative post! lol

They charge for the card and all of the licenses simply because they can...not much different from buying gas

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Originally Posted by Gregoire1960

The outdoors card IS THE ID. Until they tie all databases in the province together you'll need some form of ID to show you're a hunter. There will some day be a universal card for all provincial gov't licences (there are LOTS of them, I have no less than 6 of them in my wallet) and then people will be really happy....... or will complain about "big brother" watching them.

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HAHA Big Brother!!!!

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Won't they be able to just put all that info on 'the chip'....once they insert that, all they'll have to do is scan your arm..voila :)

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SCARY!!

so why does it expire? I don't need to do anything other than to PAY to get it renewed.

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Originally Posted by red x

The outdoor card is cheap less then 10$ for 3 years...

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Let's be serious. Nothing is cheap.
Look up how much a hunting licence is south the border. NY resident is 88$. Now look what comes with that licence. If deer population would allow you to buy the same amout of tags, the same priviliges would cost an Ontario resident to hunt their backyard a whooping 500$

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Originally Posted by Waftrudnir

Let's be serious. Nothing is cheap.
Look up how much a hunting licence is south the border. NY resident is 88$. Now look what comes with that licence. If deer population would allow you to buy the same amout of tags, the same priviliges would cost an Ontario resident to hunt their backyard a whooping 500$

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I hear its even cheaper in Florida!

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Originally Posted by odm2

I'm not sure if this topic has already been posted but can someone tell me why we need to purchase an outdoor card other than it being the law?

I remember before the card existed I had a paper fishing license, hunting license and tags. The ministry came out with the outdoors card to rid of all the paper lic/tags by having little stickers fixed to the card. That was a great way to keep everything organized and safe from loss or damage. They now got rid of the stickers and went back to paper tags and licenses. Okay great (not really)... so what is the need for the card?
I bought the 3 yr fishing and small game with mine but whats the point? What if I didn't have the cash at the time to purchase the licenses and just renewed the card? What good is it other than to allow me to buy a license? Why do I have to pay a fee in order to be privileged with my right to buy a fishing/hunting license? Am I not Canadian? Is it a donation? If so why cant I right it off? My Picture is not on it so it cant be used as legal Identification.

What good is it?

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Your right
I like the stickers on the back of the card
Much better
They are going back the way it used to be
Carrying all that paper again
Crazy

I not a 100% shure,but in some U.S states your car insurance will pay for your deer hunting license.

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Originally Posted by tinman454

I not a 100% shure,but in some U.S states your car insurance will pay for your deer hunting license.

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HAHA Your rates will go up it that happened here!