Just out of curiosity for the guys that are keeping/selling their coyote pelts, how much is the mnr charging for the royalty this year?
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Just out of curiosity for the guys that are keeping/selling their coyote pelts, how much is the mnr charging for the royalty this year?
Not sure but I think our Ontario eastern coyote r getting less than half of what western coyotes go for....so guessing $30 average....only guessing have not seen the auction results yet....should be out soon
Thats not what I meant Frati, the royalty is something trappers and hunters have to pay on the furs they keep/harvest. 4 years ago I had one tanned and I think I paid around a buck fifty($1.50). Some call it a Queens tax. The trappers have the royalty deducted from the furs they sell. I suspect most guys that are shooting them didnt know if they keep or sell the hides they have to pay the royalty, the trappers here would know for sure. I think the Taxidermists would know about them as well.
Not many coyote pelts sold so far, somewhere around 75% unsold..average about 56.90 USD, top was about 78.00 USD
royalty is 1 or 1.08 something like that IIRC.
Western always bring higher, less yellow in the belly among other things.
Just a clarification.........if you LAWFULLY take a coyote under your HUNTING license, you owe no royalty UNTIL/UNLESS you offer the skin or pelt for sale...GENERALLY.
That's the key. No royalty is paid if we intend to keep the hide. Once we decide to sell,that's when the royalty needs to be paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot
ARE we running out of things to post/talk about?????????Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
"Just a clarification.........if you LAWFULLY take a coyote under your HUNTING license, you owe no royalty UNTIL/UNLESS you offer the skin or pelt for sale...GENERALLY."
At the time you obtain a license to send the hide to a tanner (ie Taxidermist) a royalty must be paid according to the Furbearing Mammals regulations on page 82, but there is some changes coming that Im not clear on see page 5
I hope someone can shed some light on this. probably should have posted this on the trapping forum.
The taxidermist I go to never asked or mention anything about Royalty. I keep all my hides to myself anyway.
I believe the crown sets the royalty at 3% of the previous year's average sales price.
http://media.wix.com/ugd/eedf40_c31f...227f104b41.pdf
Looks more like 5.5% of average sales price. Each province has its own rate. Coyote will be $2.00 this year.
Thanks Fenelon, thats what I was looking for.
I believe after 2013 and the revisions for 2014 the royalty is "waived"(for lack of a better word) if you aren't selling it or exporting it even if tanning yourself or having it done.Quote:
Originally Posted by cricket
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, as a hunter I cannot sell my furs unless I'm a licensed trapper?
They will use your small game license # since you don't have an ATN
Yes you can sell, you need a fur selling permit which is free, I think they just changed that law. You only need to go online and fill out the paperwork or something like that.
MC
Edit - Here is what I found - I bolded the ones that would interest you - copied from:
http://www.furmanagers.com/#!licence/c6j7 - Ontario Fur Managers Website
The following licences are obtained from a Ministry of Natural Resources Office (listed below):
Farmer’s Licence to Sell Pelts or Carcasses N/C
Fur Dealer’s Licence to Buy or Sell Pelts $39.63
Fur Dealer’s Licence to Tan Pelts $39.63
Raccoon Night Hunters Licence $ 16.50
Licence to Possess a Pelt N/C
Fur Export Licence ($ royalty fee)
Licence to Send Pelts to a Tanner ($ royalty fee)
I found this thread informative...:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by COYHUNTER
Wow this post is awesome... I honestly thought I couldn't sell my pelts, now I just have to figure out how to prep them in my apartment parking lot lol
thanks mastercastera and everyone else
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Thats why I asked the question. I was willing to bet that most didnt know anything about the royalty. I know some Taxidermist would tan one without asking , however, I have had 2 done over the years from 2 different Taxidermist and both wanted the permit number or what ever you want to call it. After reading some of the stipulations it definetly is not easy to figure out. The MNR even has a permit for an untaned hide (which they call a pelt I think) if it is kept after the season closes versus a tanned hide.
So.. What do I do to sell a pelt though.. Who do I call?
Last year the royalty fee was $1.90 per yote so I'm sure it will be up a bit this year.
3wheelerdude, you must use a backwoods small tax man as the 3 taxidermists that I know that have tanned pelts for guys in our group wouldn't have anything to do with the hide until you have the permit.
For Wild Fur(vs Ranch Fur)Quote:
Originally Posted by topher
Prep the pelt per the NAFA Manual(Google)
Google NAFA pick up locations for your Area(Ontario SouthEast, Ontario SouthWest, etc.)and drop off pelts, fill out paperwork.
OR you can set up an account online and NAFA will send bags for you to use to ship to them.
They post up the lotting letters so you can see what you pelts grade etc.
Then they send you a check and a receipt.
here is what the MNR emailed me :
Hi Chris,
Thank you for the inquiry.
The holder of a small game licence may, without any other licence, sell pelts of furbearing mammals that were killed under that licence during the open season. Since the season is open all year in your Wildlife Management Unit (WMU), you may sell the pelts of coyotes that you have killed under the authority of your small game licence. Here is a link for the Fur Auctions in Ontario. The websites will provide you with information on shipping your pelts to them and how to prepare them:
http://www.furharvesters.com/
http://www.nafa.ca/
If I take a coyote, can the taxidermist prepare it for sale?Or how do I sell the pelt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenelon
This thread is 7 years old,but,other than prices (right now they're in the tank),not a lot has changed. Taxidermists don't work cheap,so,having a pelt prepared by them for you to sell later might be cost prohibitive. Pelts can be prepared for shipping to the fur auction as a DIY project or,YouTube has lots of videos on how to tan it yourself. Oh,BTW,I see this is your first post. Welcome to the forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by jumbo1290
Interesting to see these old threads-and look at familiar names or big numbered(lots of posts posted) members ,not here "anymore".Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Wondering why ?
The pelts get shipped to auction not tanned. Go to Fur Harvester Auction and look for the pelt handling manual. As well on you tube there is a lot of videos about fur handling. The guys from coon creek have a good series of videos that you can follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by jumbo1290
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