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Hey guys,
I was lucky enough to see a doe get hit on the road. She seemed to be in good shape so I gutted her and got her hung up. As for any of the Internet CO's, yes I'm aware of the permit needed to keep her.
Problem is that I never had a chance to get her cut up before she froze solid. Can I thaw her to get her skinned and butchered and then freeze the meat again? Or is she coyote bait?
Any thoughts..............
Thanks,
Brian
I think you would be good to go... Don't think you need a permit for her... Deer freeze on the hanging pole lots... It's the massive bruising you wanted to cut out before it spreads ...
No fawn in her I hope. Gross. There diet this time of year around here is mostly cedar bows cause its hard to scratch in the fields with so much snow and ice. Don't know what she might taste like lol. Spike I shot this fall at camp froze and was butchered as it thawed then wrapped and put back in freezer. I and everyone else who ate it are still here.
Skin it and cut away the bruised meat.
Generally you need to have authorization to take the deer, but there is no permit, just someone (OPP or MNR generally) saying you are ok to take it, just make a note of the time and the badge number of the officer and name to be safe.
My buddy got one last week. OPP shot it for him and told him he didn't need a permit. He called MNR anyway and was told that the fine was over $100 for NOT reporting the kill. Its not the same as the old permits apparently, with more info requested.
My deer from the rifle hunt is quartered and frozen (in heavy plastic bags) in a spare freezer. In a month or so we will be running it thru a band saw and vacuum sealing it as chops, steak and stew. Been doing it this way for years and cooking most of the meat on the BBQ when it warms up a bit.
Not to worry, most of ours also freeze on the pole.
5yrs ago, reported a fresh deer road kill to the MNR. They took the related info. (what happened, any damage, where Police called?) and gave me a report # and mailed a document. Butcher needed the report #.
Skinning will be a chore, but it's good meat hopefully.
Roe+
Reporting is done online now and it's a pain in the butt.
Deer meat will be fine, have had one freeze on me before can't tell the difference in taste .
Hey,
Thanks to all that responded to my query. Only managed to salvage half of her, the good half. But I may aswell eat her instead of the yote's. The carcass will be strategically placed, if ya know what I mean.......lol
Anyways, she's about to get froze again.........except for a couple steaks.
Thanks again,
Brian
Harder to skin but easier to cut up while frozen unless your deboning that is .
TD
In general, you can keep a dead wild animal or bird you have found or been given.
In some cases, you need to register that you have a dead wild animal in order to keep it.
This rule applies to certain:
- large mammals (e.g., black bear)
- birds of prey (e.g., bald eagle)
- furbearing mammals (e.g., coyote)
Registration
You don’t always need to register the possession. The process depends on:
- the type of wild animal
- how you acquired it
If you need to register, you register for what’s called a Notice of Possession – this allows you to keep the dead wild animal for personal use.
You cannot sell dead wild animals under a Notice of Possession.
Source law
This is a summary of the provincial laws. You can find a complete set of rules related to this activity in:
- Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997
- Ontario Regulation 666/98 (possession, buying and selling of wildlife)
- Endangered Species Act, 2007
Species at risk
Special rules apply for endangered or threatened species. You can only keep a protected species under very limited circumstances (e.g., for scientific and education purposes).
Protected species are listed on the Species at risk in Ontario list. Please contact a local Ministry of Natural Resources (MNR) office for more information about the rules.
Species at risk in Ontario list
Find an MNR district office
When you need to register
Large mammals
This group includes:
- black bear
- white-tailed deer
- moose
- American elk
Yes, you need to register an animal
If you:
- find the wild animal dead (e.g., road kill)
- are a landowner or wildlife agent protecting property who has lawfully killed a black bear
No, you don't need to register an animal
If you:
- lawfully killed it (e.g., with the appropriate hunting licence)
- receive it as a gift from someone who lawfully killed it
- lawfully possessed it before its death (e.g., in a licensed zoo)
- are a taxidermist or butcher possessing it in the course of your business
What's a wildlife agent?
Raptors (birds of prey)
This group includes:
- bald eagle
- peregrine falcon
- northern goshawk
- gyrfalcon
- northern harrier
- American kestrel
- American swallow-tailed kite
- merlin
- osprey
- turkey vulture
- certain hawks (broad-winged, Cooper’s, red-shouldered, red-tailed, rough-legged, and sharp-shinned)
- certain owls (barred, boreal, burrowing, eastern screech, great gray, great horned, long-eared, northern hawk, northern saw-whet, short-eared, and snowy)
Yes, you need to register a raptor
If you:
- find it dead (e.g., found road kill)
- are a landowner or wildlife agent who has lawfully killed it protecting property
No, you don't need to register a raptor
If you:
- receive it as a gift
- lawfully possessed it before its death (e.g., in a licensed zoo)
- are a taxidermist possessing it in the course of your business
Furbearing mammals (and their pelts)
This group includes:
- beaver
- bobcat
- coyote
- fisher
- fox (Arctic, red)
- lynx
- marten
- mink
- muskrat
- opossum
- otter
- raccoon
- red squirrel
- striped skunk
- weasel (least, long-tailed, short-tailed or ermine)
- wolf
Yes, you need to register a furbearing mammal
If you:
- find it dead (e.g., found road kill)
- are a landowner or wildlife agent who has lawfully killed it protecting property
- buy or otherwise acquire or import the pelt of a furbearing mammal, or the carcass including the pelt, for your own personal use
No, you don't need to register a furbearing mammal
If you:
- lawfully killed it (e.g., if you are a licensed trapper or small game hunter)
- lawfully possessed it before its death (e.g., in a licensed zoo)
- are a taxidermist or butcher possessing it in the course of your business
How to register/get a licence
Step 1: Download the Natural Resources Registration Guide
- print a copy or
- open the guide in a new window or tab
Natural Resources Registration Guide
Step 2: Create a ONe-key ID and Natural Resources client profile
You need a ONe-key ID and a Natural Resources client profile to register online. ONe-key is a secure account that gives you online access to Ontario government programs and services.
Once you have a ONe-key ID, you will be asked to create either an individual or business profile for Natural Resources registrations. Create:
- an individual profile to register non-business activities
- a business profile to register activities conducted by a:
- business
- non-profit organization
- municipality
- government agency
- ministry
Open a new window or tab to:
Create an individual profile
Create a business profile
If you already have a ONe-key ID:
- sign in to ONe-key
- confirm your Natural Resources profile
Open a new window or tab to:
Sign in as a returning individual
Sign in as a returning business
Step 3: Register an activity
- select My Services from the main menu
- click on Create New Registration
- select Notice of Possession from the registry options
- register the activity
- submit the registration
Step 4: Receive confirmation
- receive an official Confirmation of Registration by email
- keep a copy as proof of registration
- registration is free
If you can't apply online:
- download the registration form and user guide
- print, complete and mail the form
- wait for confirmation
Notice of Possession form and user guide
Buy, sell or give wildlife
In most cases, you cannot buy or sell game wildlife or specially protected wildlife, whether alive or dead, without permission.
Some rare exceptions exist (e.g., selling a pelt as a licensed trapper).
For more information, please contact a local MNR district office.
Giving as a gift
You can give a dead wild animal or bird as a gift, if you acquired it under the rules in this article.
Updated: December 4, 2013
You are right on there Roe+. It's a cold slow job. Make sure you don't take any of the bruised meat. It really won't taste very good. The rest of the meat will be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roe+
Dan O.
Nice work Gilroy.
X 2 ,. I had an osprey done , lots of legwork, but well worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roper
X3.
Thanks Gilroy.
FMc Ive wondered about birds of prey, had the impression you needed written permission to have one mounted.
JBen..I found a Screech Owl hanging in my chicken coup netting about two years ago. Posted a pic here and one of the guys wanted to get it mounted. All I had to do was go to the MNR Biologist, he identified it, filled out a from and handed me a copy. I then stuck it into a box with the Owl and mailed it the taxidermist in Kingston...all went smoothly.
You do need a licence to keep road kill. The licence is free but you need to apply for it. It can be done online or mail in the form. I believe it is called a notice to posses road kill or a dead animal.
No, no no, it's not a licence! It's just a report form they send back to you in the mail authorizing possession. They (MNR) will ask time/date/place and any other pertinent info such as MV accident or otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goosesniper
You are correct. It isn't a licence. It is a notice to possess. I'm not sure of the process. I can't seem to be able to get the PDF to download from your link. It's been this way for months now.