Just heard a friends dog was diagnosed with Lyme Nephritis and will probably be dead within a couple weeks.
http://lapoflove.blogspot.com/2012/1...-dogs.html?m=1
Don't kid yourself, Lyme disease can kill.
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Just heard a friends dog was diagnosed with Lyme Nephritis and will probably be dead within a couple weeks.
http://lapoflove.blogspot.com/2012/1...-dogs.html?m=1
Don't kid yourself, Lyme disease can kill.
I don't know what he means by this
There are few out there, only one I know proven to work - Nobivac.Quote:
The lyme vaccine is controversial at this time, and people seeking this vaccine should speak with their veterinarian at length about its use and benefits/side effects. At the least, every dog receiving this vaccine should first be tested for lyme exposure.
I haven't heard of one that is 100% effective yet. The best numbers I have heard from people in the know is only about 70% effectiveness.
I will see if I can find the Nobivac study, they essentially exposed bunch of dogs (poor sods) to tick infestation and tested for Lyme infection.
Here's pretty good info, I haven't seen before, but it's a bit dated - 2007
http://bakerinstitute.vet.cornell.ed...ge.php?id=1101
Quote:
while more than 75 percent of the dog population in hyper-endemic areas may be exposed to infected ticks, only about five percent of those exposed actually develop clinical signs that might be attributable to Lyme disease. Within endemic areas, “hot spots” of tick infestation where dogs have a much greater probability of acquiring an infection are intermingled with non-infested areas
Quote:
- History of exposure to ticks in an endemic area.
- Typical clinical signs (lameness with or without fever).
- A positive antibody test.
- A prompt response to antibiotic therapy.
One or two of these criteria alone are usually not sufficient to confirm a diagnosis.
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Should antibiotic treatment be initiated on dogs found carrying Ixodes ticks?
The question is only relevant in endemic areas. If dogs are exposed frequently to ticks, treatment is impractical. Besides, infection of dogs only occurs after at least partial engorgement of ticks. The risk of infection, therefore, is greatly reduced if the ticks are removed from dogs on a daily basis. Because treatment in dogs is highly effective, many veterinarians initiate treatment only after the onset of clinical signs.
Anyone know how long it takes to show itself? Lyme disease worries me greatly, my guy got a few ticks this fall before switching from Revolution to Advantix II. 2 or 3 of them were fully engorged before I found them (long black hair hides them well). Are there signs to watch for?
Lameness and lack of energy are generally the first signs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass
We had 4 dogs come up with it last spring.
PA is so over run with deer ticks that a lot of bird dog folk have given up on vaccines and revolution and just treat the symptoms with antibiotics.
My Emma was diagnosed with it last year. I got her back from out west and she had lost a lot of weight which can happen because she is a demon and depletes herself. I then noticed that when I released her from the truck tailgate, she was desperate to go hunting but kept running along the tailgate - back and forth, back and forth. I remember thinking, "This dog is losing it!" So, I'd help her down and away she'd go like she was fit as a fiddle. My son came to get her one day (another story) but as she was about to got out the door, she looked up at me with a very sad expression. ??? We know our dogs right? I told my son, "She's not going anywhere. Tomorrow morning first thing, I'm taking her in to the Vet."
Next morning, I took her in and sure enough, she tested positive for Lyme disease. The reason she paced at the tailgate was because as excited as she was, her joints must have been aching and jumping down had been very painful. I was pretty upset at the time because I should have keyed in sooner but....
Anyway, we treated her and then went back 6 months later for a follow-up test. There is a residual - which broke my heart - but the Vet said, that CAN happen and for me to just let her hunt but monitor her.
It has been a dream this past season with her - out west (Huns/sharpies), up north (grouse/woodcock) and locally (woodcock). Perhaps she's not quite as fast as she was but she's as relentless as ever and even more effective! For example, out west the winds were outrageous hitting a high of 115 klms the one day! Because of the winds, birds change their habits. When we figured them out, they were in a place where they could see you coming from a LONG way off! One time, after stacking up in an expansive cut-barley field she held steady facing due north. I hustled up and made ever-widening sweeps trying to flush the covey. I was unproductive but I know Emma and like other dogs, she doesn't lie! So, I tapped her on but she wheeled 180 degrees and started running south! Now, I'm thinking, "Wow....this could be the old girl's last year out here. She is completely losing it!"
So, south she goes, starts curling west, rips waaaay up north again, starts curling east and BAM...she's on point again! We eventually got some shots off but they were long because the covey could see us approaching. She did this on three separate occasions. I had to accept that she knew better than the guy with the gun that our typical techniques needed to be adjusted because of the winds. ....amazing.
She is 10 years old and going strong. She is near me as a type this, in her dog bed toasty warm, quiet and regal. She's not a barker. She doesn't counter surf. She is incredibly gentle around adults, other dogs and young children alike. You wouldn't even know there is a dog in here! Yet, go for your hunting gear and her eyes just light up!
I dread the day.......
Wow that's terrible that its so prevalent. Glad I have Advantix now, hope it keeps them away. Once I put it on this fall I never pulled any more off of him.
As they say, an ounce of prevention!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cass
Most gundogs who are out in the fields /woods will test positive for the bacteria. Further symptoms however only develop in about 5 %.. Vaccination against lyme disease may be indicated for dogs travelling or living in endemic areas; tick control remains the most important method to prevent infection.
PS Advantix has improved their product this year to keep ticks from even landing.
http://bakerinstitute.vet.cornell.ed...ge.php?id=1101
Thanks Sharon. Good read!
you guys only read one another's posts..? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugo
LOL No. I read ALL threads/posts but we are good friends and its hard not to use the forum as a chance to communicate.We fight occasionally too about dogs ,so we have to make up once in a while.
I enjoy your posts too. :) I'd be friends with you , but I can't pronounce your name. :)
PS
Is it German? Russian? My family tree goes back to Germany in the 1600s. We were the Hessians who joined up with Britain to fight in the American Revolution . Hessians were mercenaries - which my husband says explains everything. :) Britain gave us land in 1784 in Prince Edward Country which is still in the family
Good post Sharon...LMAO!
I would take the Lyme test with a big grain of salt. Last time I checked, I believe S. Ontario has more than a dozen seruvars (and counting) of the disease. Our lousy, outdated Canadian test only screens a few, and usually comes back false negative for early exposures. Lots of false negatives. The same goes for the human test. Health Canada should be ashamed of itself, as our ELISA testing is so inadequate. If I suspected Lyme and got a negative from Canadian testing, I'd do what thousands of Canadians are doing now - get your blood drawn and get it couriered to the states for the proper Western Blot test.
Sharon, vom Dufenshmirtz is the name of my kennel. I used to be known here is h&t and we ARE (electronic) friends :)))))Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
The kennel name is of German tradition (considering my German breed). Vom means from and pronounced as [fom].
Don't ask Vom too many questions. Obviously he is in the witness protection plan and has to change names every now and then.....he does have a nice dog though :ninja:
Wow I had no idea who you really are ! I'm glad i listen to you when you PM me and give me crap. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
Ahahahhhhh h&t!! Yes we are friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by vom Dufenshmirtz
LOL Vince you have a good heart and I actually really like you. :) Now that I know the "whole story", I've got your back. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
If your dogs are getting lyme disease than you should watch out for yourself. My brother's mother-in-law has it and they figure she got it when she was visiting them in Virginia. She's had a hard tie getting rid of it. They found that diagnosis and treatment of it is much better in the US.
Roe+
from New Brunswick: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...ease-1.2507919
"A recent study conducted in New England found that for every six dogs infected, one human also had Lyme disease."
Also, it may be that Lyme disease is a new STD: http://theweek.com/article/index/255...d-lyme-disease
I find it offensive that people here are insinuating that Canada has put budget/profits ahead of the well-being of Canadians and that folk have to go to the USA to get decent diagnosis and treatment...........even if it is true!