Attachment 24544where would you fish for * stocked * rainbows on this lake??? Tried it before with now success and need some revenge!!! lol
thanks in advance
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Attachment 24544where would you fish for * stocked * rainbows on this lake??? Tried it before with now success and need some revenge!!! lol
thanks in advance
id fish the shallower parts, thats where I've been having most of my luck for back lakes bows, that drop off between 5-20 looks promising and where i would probably start my search.
If there is any inflowing water that's where I'd start otherwise I really like the look of that 10-20ft saddle one third of the way down.
So hard to figure water out through the ice especially if you can only hit it 3-4 times per season and 2 of those times the fish are shut down...
if there is a river flowing in they will be around there too, especially if the current is warm...... but rainbows at least in the lakes i fish are in the 5-10 foot range go deeper and i get perch os panfish, go back to 5-10 and ice another rainbow, they love drop-offs just like lakers so that drop off between 5-20 on the northern part of the lake looks very promising, if you mark fish stay there, if they're on they hit a lot of things if its off and you're marking them just gotta experiment a little, with leaders, lures, etc. The lakes i fish for them the average size is 5 lbs, i like to use 4 lbs line when its on, when its off, i will sometimes go down to even half a pound leader about 2 metres in lengths with a quick tip longer rod with good backbone and a reel with very good drag.
Shallow 10ft and worms they are pretty easy
thanks for the info people! there is no running water on this lake.. so drop offs and worms I guess.. lol I'll let you know tomorow or friday what the outcome will be! lol
i like to use a little jig, with a yellow rubber wax worm, tipped with a small minnow, works like a charm every time!
was thinking of using a little cleo with minnows..
"works like a charm every time" You must be kidding, right? That's a laugh...
scud that is one strange lake. 5 holes. No streams or swamps. That means it's totally spring fed. If you can figure out where they are that's a good start. Cleo is always a good start for a jigging rod. Try using a fastach on it with a minnow head on the treble for a different look and less chance of throwing the hook. Don't be shy about checking out the muckiest part of the lake this time of year too as hatches are happening now. Good luck.
Cheers
little cleo is not the best choice for rainbows, they prefer smaller baits, like micro jigs, or wax worms, or minnows, little cleo is good for big brookies, I've never been skunked for rainbows with a micro jig, with a yellow rubber waxie and a minnow, always works but then again i know the lakes i fish very well. Ive seen lots of lakes like this in the haliburton/bancroft area, the fish usually move around near the drop-offs looking for bugs, minnows, worms, etc. set up on a drop off but try the shallow side first then move deeper as the day goes on, i find most of my back lakes rainbows come in 8-10 feet, with a drop-off going to 15-20 feet, drill your holes along the drop off and move around, this way you will always be on the fish, the fish move, you switch holes, they move back, switch holes again, have a set line with a worm or minnow but most of my fish well bows at least come with thin line, a long ul or quick tip jigging rod and a straight-line reel, on small round jigs with a waxie, yellow works best as i previously stated have tried different colours, including glow in the dark, what also works well is a mayfly tipped with a minnow, no sinker, just thin line and a mayfly tipped with a small minnow, if they're not hitting anything they will hit that, they can't resist a fly especially with the right presentation.
I agree with PA on the baits... Spoons don't work very well for bows, like they do specs and lakers. I've caught the odd one on a spoon, but micro jigs, flies and live bait are key for bows... I would never use one anymore... Brookies though often prefer metal!
I caught one bow once in 35fow, but shallower is better. Could be anywhere on that lake, plus they move...
Pikeattack, average back lake bow in your lake 5lbs??? Is that a fish story PA:):):)
no theres lots of lakes with 5 lb bows in the bancroft area, most are snowmobile access only but i do know a few that have easy access, you just gotta find them, camera helps, brookies are often around 4-5 pounds in these back lakes too, I've shown you the pics, so you better believe it.
There are lakes with a 5 pound average in the Haliburton areahttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/21/jagy4e6u.jpg
Nothing more to add. Good luck!
I am a big fan of points/drop off's. Fish from 4 fow out to 20 fow, on dead stick use half a worm/full leech or small minnow. I fish suspended in all depths, jig with micro tubes, tungsten jig and minnow. I have caught them on small spoons and rattle baits also. One thing that would be worth finding out is what strain of rainbow you are fishing for. MNR stocks 2 different strains which are not created equal in my books. Domestic strain and the Ganaraska, the Gany's being the more difficult of the two.
Do not be afraid of playing around weeds and muck, and i am not a big fan of a incoming stream or river because that is the coldest water on a lake and rainbows are not looking for that. I agree with all the other tips on this thread, HOWEVER never believe it when someone says there are always successful with bow's through the hard stuff.
There are lakes with lots of 5lb bows yes, but not average...
Good for you PA, keep catching em:)Quote:
Originally Posted by pikeattack
I believe that there are lakes with average fish being 5 lbs, but are people catching true 5 lbs fish? and in what numbers? If they are true 5 lbs they should be in the 23" to 25" range. Also i would think you would not catch them in high numbers due to fishing/predator pressure and being that they are probably at the end of there life cycle. (with domestics, which are more commonly stocked then Ganaraska)
The rainbow lake i fish is a domestic strain lake. This past November i caught lots of fish off shore between 17" and 19" which were between the 2.5 and 3.00 lbs mark. Now this coming Nov they should be close to that 5 lbs mark so 23" to 25", but in much smaller numbers. Also the new generation of fish will be stocked on top, giving you lots of 6" to 11" and very few 23" to 25"
Show me a pic of 5 bows all around the 5 lbs mark and i will believe average size is 5 lbs, but catch one fish that is 5 lbs and saying that it is average size is not accurate.
If a lake was stocked with 500 fish and forgotten about then you could have both size and numbers, but such a gem is rarely attainable.
well just to let everyone know, i went out this morning and of course auger wouldn't work right so couldn't try many spots... found some stick poking our of the snow and got 3-4 done ( carb was falling off the auger..). NOT ONE BITE ! was on the lake from 9 am to 11 am and tried waxies on micro jig in orange and yellow, as well as a rattle spoon with minnow, green and yellow cleo ( 1/4 oz) with minnow..
tried in the 20 ft range up to the 4 ft range... if you looked at first pic, i was mostly at the south ( bottom ) of the lake... this lake just to let you know, you can probably lob a rock across it at it's widest spot. i think rainbows can hear me coming a mile away!!! but this i have leant, need a new auger!
x2 on the shallow approach. Recently at a lake where numerous bows were iced. Fishing the shallows with Gulp products in a max depth of 3 ft. of water. The lake has several drops that extend into 50 to 60 ft. of water, which is where the perch hang out. Good luck!Quote:
Originally Posted by pikeattack
Look for 8 to 10 feet of water....and when over deeper water fish only 5 feet down.....and they will be cruising...
8 plus from a haliburton area lake...
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Auger
So what about using worms in 3-9 fow, the way we do for specks? Are we wasting our time?
So how does anyone measure success when fishing rainbows through the ice. Personally if I ice 1-2 fish on any given day I've had a great day! There is at least 1 lake in Haliburton with a 5 pound average, but last I heard from the locals that were also fishing is it is getting surveyed this spring and put up for sale. Probably going to become another land locked lake for someone's private fishing pleasure. Too bad! It was a lake that was stocked and forgotten about, a true gem in my eyes. Anyone got some money they want to loan out? :)
A successful day rainbow fishing on the ice is any bow that comes through the hole, i agree with you 100%. They have to be the hardest species during winter months. I am going to be more specific here with the 5 pound average topic, lets think of them as year classes. At any given time the average rainbow lake probably has 2 to 3 year classes in it. So saying that the average size of a particular year class is 5 lbs would be more accurate. I think that most rainbow lakes are stocked every year or every other year. If a lake is stocked in 2010 and then not stocked again until 2013 (which is very rare) then the average size of that 2010 year class in 2012 would be 5 lbs, but with small numbers, unless it had no fishing pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpark
With regard to speck sizes and measuremnts, I will only offer my experiences and my $0.02. I grew up in Elliot lake and fished for giant specks thru the ice in lakes where 4-8 pounders were actually relatively common. In high school we moved from EL to a little NW Ontario town just off the mouth of the Nipigon River....I mention these areas of the province only because they are well known for monster specks. I know nothing about previous members posts/photos and I am certainly no expert. However, based on personal experiance catching some "decent" specks (i.e., 3 to 6 pounders) I would have to say that the majority of the larger fish I've caught have definately been over 20" long.....in fact 22" used to be the measure we looked for. Sure, there are shorter stocked fish on small lakes with incredible girth that could top 5 lbs....I just haven't really seen any. I'm not taking sides - just my 0.02.
Slainte.
when length and girth collide....thats when things get fun
i'm confused....are we discussing speck lengths, girth, weight, or rainbow sizes? Similar but different. Hey Canada beat teh Yanks today, we can all agree on that!!
I believe this post started about catching rainbows through the ICE! Catching big rainbows come spring a whole different ball game. I wanna see a rainbow on ice. With a tape measure please and thank you This is what it should look like. Good luck kid. Just a little pressure on you to prove us wrong. No doubt you can do it. Sometimes in this day and age a mans/kids word isn't good enough. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/22/ubanebyn.jpg
Go get em kid. With all your knowledge it shouldn't be two hard!
When i hit a rainbow lake ill be sure to post a pic of a rainbow near a tape measure, but that will only happen when the snowmobile trails are nice and the slush is gone off my favourite rainbow lakes in haliburton, i will get out soon enough though.
I am more interested in a brookie/tape pic but throw in the bow pic also. I fish over 320 days a year, and have heard it all, that is why i would like to see a pic, if you have a story there has to be a pic to back it up. There are to many people out there who over exaggerate weight, weather it is a speck, walleye, pike or bass.Quote:
Originally Posted by pikeattack
One question for you is the small lake near your house which i believe in an earlier thread you said was stocked by the University of Toronto, are they diploid or triploid fish?
I wish I fished as much as you guys. I have never caught a rainbow, never a brookie either.
well I guess I wasted words
Wow.. i guess i'll stop asking for some advice... turns into a pissing match... wow...
I'm fixing the problem so stick around.
worth a try it was good advice unfortunately do people know it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by toddc
To bad this post got so far off track. It started out well and I was hoping to pick up a few tricks to ice my first bow.
Take all the tips that started off the thread, even Pikeattack's. I find alone is better when fishing for bows, less noise. Fish suspended, even in 4 ft. Use flurocarbon leaders, small hooks and tiny split shot. Rainbow have a small mouth for their size so use small bait. I like half a dewy or pin heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back 2 basic
Some people swear buy 40 fow and fish suspended at 10 ft. I use my Vexilar and jig micro tubes, tungsten jig and bait, forage minnows, small rattle baits and maribooh jigs. Be ready for quick bites and drops, thats what they do. If they hit a line and drop it keep an eye on the other line, they can move very quick from one hole to the next. Make sure with dead sticks they can run line off, put the steel to them quick and hold on.
Also I will add. Have patience when you go out the first couple times. I have been skunked more times fishing for rainbows than any other fish out there! When you do finally get a rainbow of size through the ice, enjoy it. The screaming drag and the flashes of pink while looking for your fish through the hole should give you enough patients until the next one. For lure choice and all that other stuff most of it has been covered, although a little spread out on this out of control post lol. Quiet and by your self is best. Kids making snowmen and running around on the ice while trying to catch rainbows is not the best. Trust me.
that is good advice!! lol so if I were to take my daughter fishing, it would have to be for splake or lakers! or walleye for that matter...Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpark
Bottom right end of the lake just to the left of the 5 is where I would put my first day in. 7ft to 12ft
Yup, I lost my nicest back lakes bow that way(I rarely ever target bows, mostly specks). Came in in a flash and grabbed the gulp tail off my jig and dropped it and a second later my set line went down... Pulling and screaming drag, a couple good runs then gone... Must have been a 3-5lber... All happened in a matter of seconds... Of course their could have been a school of bows in, but it happened as you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by KEVERS
LOL they are jerks for sure, and as a brookie fisherman you know how a speck sticks around until he gets the bait sometimes even after they have been stung, not bows. I do my best first ice, this year in early December i iced 4 17" to 19" bows first trip. Next three trips were quick bites and drops. There not big on chasing a bait either like a laker or splake would. On the flasher it is like they lose interest half way through the pursuit.Quote:
Originally Posted by intothedeep
I believe they are not targeted as much as brookies,splake and lakers because of their finiky habits, i know the old boys in my area de-spise them which basically leaves the rainbow lakes all to myself.
Yup, all true about specs! Don't mark a ton, but 9/10 will stick around and hit, even after being stung... I find them almost as aggressive as lake trout when they are active, but they don't turn on quite as much as lakers... Yeah specs will chase you from 25 feet down up to the hole and back down again, like lakers...Quote:
Originally Posted by KEVERS
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Side note - I can vouch for KEVERS as an experienced angler as that guy has entered well over 1,000 entries into the OFAH Ontario Angler Awards program since it started in 2004.
I take what KEVERS says as GOSSPAL!
He's been features in many angling magazines and did an episode of Real Fishing with Bob Izumi. He's the real deal.
thanks Caltek... and as well to everyone for the tips... i have officially decided that Rainbow trout are way smarter than I. gonna keep after the Lakers and maybe Speckles... as i have yet to see a Splake over 1 pound where i live, i will leave them alone for now!
wow that sounds like a lot of fun. And a new shopping list for next season lol. I'm the kinda guy that can sit on a lake solo all day and still have a blast with or without fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by KEVERS
They are a blast but only when they co-operate. I find they love to hit when you are eating, walking away from the hole you just scooped or 2 hours after you have lost total interest in them. So do all three at once and your sure to get a bite. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Back 2 basic