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Nice snowy day, decided to try out the new lead pot and Lee 250 gr dies. Made a total of 136 bullets and only 20 failed inspection. Pushed them thru LEE .501 sizing and Aloxed them up to dry overnight. Lead bullets do scrape with my fingernail. Should be fun to shoot
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Was surprised how many deformed when dropping from die.
I'm going to be trying that this summer with my .45 ball...I'll have to get some pointers the next time we meet up.
The guy who sold me the gun threw in a bunch of lead, the moulds and kit to make those bullets but I haven't tried them. I've since picked up a .45 ball mould so I probably will go that route due to the twist rate on the .45.
Looks like a successful afternoon though Mark !!!...I'll have to get the range set up so you can swing by and test them :)
Yes we can do that and I will bring lead pot if you don't have one. I also have 175 1lbs lead bars. That run was 7 bars and with the left over melt, sprue tops and rejected bullets it should be a 1/4 pot. 116 bullets from about 6lbs of lead. Nice...getting excited to shoot them with BP and learn your shotgun techno for BP.
Nice set up. I have a 50 cal. 320 gr REAL mold. If you ever want to try them out shoot me a PM with your mailing address and I'll send you some. I didn't get the greatest accuracy with them and Huntaway tried them too and didn't do all that well. They sure make big holes though!
I used to have a 250 gr REAL mold but sold it with my T/C New Englander (stupid move!).
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Do not drop them on to a hard surface , use an old towel or such.Quote:
Originally Posted by line052
I had about 15 shop towels moistened to drop them in.
Pete the 250 mold was only $41.00 at Higgsson about 3 weeks ago. Love the pot, had it set on 7 and it only took about 15 minutes to melt down 7 bars. I did drip a bit and I tried adjusting the screw, but it never really stopped. Good fun though.
Pete the 250 mold was only $41.00 at Higgsson about 3 weeks ago. Love the pot, had it set on 7 and it only took about 15 minutes to melt down 7 bars. I did drip a bit and I tried adjusting the screw, but it never really stopped. Good fun though.
most of my commercial slugs are 320gr as well, interested to see what performance I get from these. I can make you up a couple hundred if you like. Next time your in town stop by and ick them up. I will take some of the 320's as well. I also will going 4/5th april on the sat to gun show in Carp. we could meet there as well.
What do you plan on using for a lube with these ?
Its my understanding the alox is all you need? There are some home based solutions I seen on gun nutz, lanolin, mineral spirits and some other stuff. I thought the alox was for that purpose. 1st week of April is supposed to be over 5C all week...ya. Double edge sword for me though, I have service all my equipment soon for business. Don't think I will be planting poles or deck holes before 3rd week of April earliest. Once the landscape season begins my time is pressed, except weekends.
From Gun Nutz pan lube recipe
I have used the same simple recipe for years, and it seems to work on everything from black powder loads to full gas-checked smokeless loads.
1 pound paraffin
1 bottle Vaseline
1/2 bottle Lee Liquid Alox.
I'd love to try beeswax, but I haven't seen the need to switch anything in my own recipe, and it's cheap as dirt.
Should cut the smell down on the Alox, stunk up the house something bad yesterday.
Nice!!!
You said you ran them through a sizer? I thought they would be to size right from the mould?
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I was wondering the same thing HA....I wouldn't have thought the need to size for ML use.Quote:
Originally Posted by huntaway
I followed the book run and youtube video's as guide. Not sure if necessary and I haven't tried fit yet, I use the calipers to measure to base of grooves and it was .501 anf the bullets are .501 after resizing. Didn't check diameter before sizing, but feel confident. Once I sized them a shiny band appeared and each of the gas bands. Now I really wanna try them.... Still haven't found anymore info if I should be using bore butter or some other lube prior to firing. The Alox coating is consistent all over and it was super slippery when applied, dries a little tacky but not sticky. YT videos show the alox and torch testing and it does not burn off. Just check again with different heading and this from Cast boolits forum
ALOX is the lubricant (it is a petroleum product). It is used for anti-corrosion for it's ability to stick to the metal it is applied to. Bullet lube is a minor side use of the product (as far as the pig is concerned, bacon is a "side" product {may the Saints preserve me, but that is a bad punhttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/imag...es/Groaner.gif} but for me I put it ahead of steakhttp://castboolits.gunloads.com/imag...lies/drink.gif.
At any rate, E.H. Harrison, a member of the NRA Technical Staff in the sixties and seventies, discovered it's value as a bullet lubricant while doing a major study of the problem. The original Alox product was 2138F while the present Alox product being used for bullet lube is Alox 350 (2138F is no longer produced after ownership of Alox changed). Apparently, the "new" Alox is just as efficient a bullet lubricant as the "old".
How accurate is your .45? Have you had a chance to hunt with it?
The reason they are called R.E.A.L. is;
R- Rifling
E- Engaged
A- AT
L- Loading
IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO RUN THEM THROUGH A SIZING DIE.
I was going to say that they are purposely over sized for that very reason. It will be interesting to see how well they shoot. Maybe take some that haven't been sized to use as a comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
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awesome pictures, i want to learn how to make my own ammunition.
Well this weekend I will be out Sat/Sun and test the rounds. 3 Shot challenge and work up a good load for the 250's. GoldenLakePete sent me some 325 REAL's this week and will give them a go as well. Got lots of shooting to do, to catch up from the last month. Kitchen Reno, Wedding and funeral...time is running out...
Well shot up the range with .50 and bullets was all set for the 3 shot challenge..but never got to it. As for sizing, I had the other non sized bullets, but never tried one of those either. Started at 85gr of 777 and worked up to 100grs and no issues. Not really sure how well they performed and we did shoot on target at 25yds with hits, but not precise aimed shots. It was more of a hey who wants to try a .50 BP. Lots of guys sharing guns on Saturday. Next time I guess. GL Pete, never got to try the 325gr bullets you sent me...
Line, in the end, that is really what it's all about. Good compay making smoke! The 3 Shot Challenge is always there for another day! ;-)
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