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Fish was caught on private property and released. Weighed in at 4 lbs even.
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Fish was caught on private property and released. Weighed in at 4 lbs even.
Nice size bass! I cant wait for the season to open.
Is it not illegal to target OOS bass? Let alone take a picture with it, even if released?
You cannot target them, if you catch one you are to release it immediately, meaning no pictures unless your friend is taking a picture of you letting it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by ph13
If you fish on PRIVATE PROPERTY on a PRIVATELY stocked pond, you can do whatever you want.
Although I see where you guys are coming from. Posting a photo of a fat bass in May is not a good idea. Most people don't read the post. They look at the photo and freak out.
Justin, I think you're going to learn that you hated making this post. LOL
Here's the gov. clarification on this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy
WATERS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY – APPLICATION OF REGULATIONS
Question Re: Private Property
I own a large parcel of land with a good sized spring-fed pond on it, the pond drains off of my land into a near-by river. I know there are fishing the pond, do I need a licence to fish in the pond and do the seasons apply on my property?
Answer:
Because your pond has an outflow the laws requiring a licence and the various fishing seasons would apply to your pond. The Ontario Fishery Regulations, which contain the rules for sport fishing in Ontario, apply to all water in the province with the exception of National Parks, waters that are licenced under an aquaculture licence and waters that occur on private lands that meet all of the following conditions:
- The waters are not on a regional flood plain,
- The waters lie wholly on privately owned land,
- The waters are not connected to natural waters,
- The waters contain water from run-off, springs, ground water or water pumped from a stream or lake; AND
- The waters have been artificially created.
If the pond meets all of the list above the fish must then come from a licenced aquaculture facility or a licenced commercial fish operation; they cannot be caught by sport-fishing and transferred to the pond.
I like Newbie's answer the best....although ddg's answered a lot of questions as well.:thumbup:
I liked that one too:)Quote:
Originally Posted by patvetzal
This thread was gone for awhile, now its back? She looks fat with eggs, not enough detail in the post to know whether this is a private pond fish or caught in the north, location says brantford so probably not. But still serves to get a rise by posting bass pics on the interweb in early May.
Good post duckduckgoose, but it was unfair for everyone to assume this guy was in the wrong when he said the pond was private. There are many private ponds around that fit all of the above criteria.
Other than saying it has to be immediately released there is nothing in the regs that states your not allowed to take a pic . That imaginary rule is just that . Imaginary .
Werner , I understand your point and yes some really do target bass on the nests under the guise they are releasing anyways . That's a no,no in many jurisdictions . Usually gills , rockbass etc are hovering close by and as soon as the male is yanked off the nest they scoot right in and destroy the nest . Bass on the nest are absolutely no challenge . I don't even like to pull one accidently although it does happen .
Personally I try not to judge bass pics at anytime to harshly since they could be from a self contained pond or jurisdiction where they are allowed to be targetted . Some tourneys in the states are even held while they are nesting .
TD
Private pond as stated, ok, but there are a lot of ponds on peoples properties that do not meet the requirements of "Private", duckduckgoose found the regs and this lays it out perfectly.
Tough though to take a picture and post it from a private pond with the way the MNR looks at things now. People are being charged for facebook posts and pictures put on the web, so just be careful and know the rules for the water body you are fishing.
Nice Bass buddy. Never mind the know it all's. Enjoy your bass fishing on that PRIVITE POND.
Thanks for all the input, I was unaware of all the specific regs regarding the definition of a private pond. That being said, I believe the body of water meets all those criteria. At any rate, it was not my intention to flaunt OOS fishing or encourage the breaking of MNR regulations.
All of the comments are more for you I think then for the board. Due to the nature of social media and the internet you want to be very careful of the process in which you do things. Taking a picture of an accidental catch is not a big deal in most cases, but people go out targeting fish then saying it was an accident, they want the recognition for the big fish, legal catch or not. It is like taking a picture of a buck before putting the tag on it, this is contrary to the rules of "immediately and at the kill site attach the game seal", people have been charged and pictures with no game seals on the bucks being used as evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by justin.benji
My dad has 2 private ponds, as defined by the regulations, it is fine to fish them and take pictures all you want, just be aware that it needs to be obvious that they are contained ponds.
Nice looking fish by the way.
Well, the one other catch for private ponds:
If the pond meets all of the list above the fish must then come from a licenced aquaculture facility or a licenced commercial fish operation; they cannot be caught by sport-fishing and transferred to the pond.
They cannot be naturally reproducing their either.
Very, very few private ponds (outside of trout farms) meet all the criteria for unregulated 'private pond' fishing.
Just playing the devil's advocate here:
There is a golf course that has about 10 tiny ponds just loaded with largemouth averaging around 10 to 12 inches. I know the owners stocked it many years ago for their kids. They haven't stocked it since. Now their kids are grown up.
Do you think a CO is going to go on their property and tell them they can't fish for those OOS bass because they are reproducing?
(and the stocked fish were "probably not" licensed)
Likely not - but that does not change the legality of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy
I can shoot deer/turkeys 24/7/365 a year up on my bushlot and if a CO doesn't do anything about that, does that make it okay?
You're getting into the "poaching is okay as long as you don't get caught" logic here.
Those golf course fish are "farmed fish". If a turkey farmer kills one of his turkeys during closed season is he a poacher? (and no, they aren't eating those bass).
You are comparing apples and oranges with that turkey example.
Like I said, just playing the devil's advocate. The law is the law.
He is if his turkeys are wild turkeys - it's not apples and oranges - its the same comparision - wild bass on private property, wild turkey's on private property.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy
And where did you finds this? When it comes to regs back it up with a link or at least a copy & paste quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
That imaginary rule...Quote:
Originally Posted by 400bigbear
A CO asked me how can you release a fish 'immediately' if you pose for a quick picture opportunity?
Then you aren't really releasing it 'immediately' are you....
Just trying to understand your 'imaginary no pictures taking' and if you have anything to back it up...
I'd love to take pics of my oos bass, I have caught some monsters, but immediately means, as soon as humanly possible - sans pictures.
Nothing says in the regs you cannot take a pic . NOTHING . Lots of ways to take a pic .
TD
so by that logic, somebody goes out muskie fishing during the open season, catches a 47" muskie, which up here would be 1 inch below the legal size to keep a muskie, so now he is not even gonna be able to take a picture of that fish? or somebody that is fishing on nipissing and his son catches a 17 inch wally, sorry little johny, no pic to show your class mates. you are making people out to be poachers for taking a picture, really encourages people to share their pictures with us. heres a idea... if you dont like it dont look at it. or once you have looked at it go back to writing letters to get bugs bunny taken off the air because he was violent and had homosexual tendacies.
400bigbear said:
Other than saying it has to be immediately released there is nothing in the regs that states your not allowed to take a pic . That imaginary rule is just that . Imaginary .
I would have 100% agreed with you until a month and a half ago. I volunteered to participate on a study of the rainbow fishery on a Lake O trib this spring, we were all supposed to catch, mark and release all the rainbows we caught and keep records to be submitted in early summer. As it was explained to us by the ministry, because we were marking the fish and not immediately releasing them it counted as retaining them which meant that technically if we did this to 2 fish we had reached our possession limit and would have to stop, that it is why we were all issued scientific collectors permits so that we wouldn't be breaking the law. It took longer to unhook the fish than to mark them. After all that was explained to us, as a side note they said that if you took a picture of a fish caught out of season it was technically poaching. So although it's not written in the regs, that's the way it was explained to us from the ministry themselves. Who'd have thought.
not getting into the legal stuff just want to say nice fish
That will also be the way the CO explains it to you as he's writing out the ticket...and they do watch from a distance with binos.Quote:
Originally Posted by sickofitall
Yep they sure do. Your bang on.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
I've never ever heard of anybody every being charged for simply taking a pic of an incidental . Have you . ?
TD
Nice fish. Would taste pretty good with butter and garlic.... I can't wait for the open season.
It seems as of lately there's been a lot of "arguing" about fishing, and not enough fishing lol. Maybe if everyone just hits the water we can all get back on track to creating informative, educational, and entertaining posts.
If anyone has an issue with regs PDF copies are available online and if clarity is needed just call in and ask.
Now back to the water with me! Tight lines.
Fishy Steve .. that was the best laugh I've had all day after a long first day back to work after 2 weeks vacation .. come on guys ..give the kid a break, he posted a picture of a nice bass he caught out of a private pond, took a picture and released it ... he's no poacher .
Finally something positive, thanks...Quote:
Originally Posted by Frenchie
I caught a Lake Trout one year on Simcoe on Dec. 31st while fishing in 8' of water for perch, definitely not targeting Lakers in that depth!, anyhow the CO was right beside me when I caught it, and my fishing partner took a picture. Never said squat to me about it, took the hook out and released it right after. It all depends on the attitude of the CO and how his day is going I guess. But, a picture taken quickly by your fishing partner as your removing the hook and releasing it takes a few seconds.
Once ice fishing on the Bog my cousin caught a muskie we took a pic. and let it go, a few years later a co saw the pic. on the wall and said he could charge him for taking that pic. but didn't checked our lic's and left. The question is who do you charge the guy in the pic. or the one taking it???
Not sure I get this..... you had reached your possession limit having caught tagged and released 2 bows? Ummmmmmmmm..........Quote:
Originally Posted by sickofitall
If that's the case...everyone who catches a fish out of season and lets it go is still possessing it (according to the MNR person) and could then be charged with possessing fish during the closed season? No way!!