http://www.nugget.ca/2014/06/25/fourth-net-found
3 of the 4 nets found were anchored and unattended. Not cut loose, not sabotaged.
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http://www.nugget.ca/2014/06/25/fourth-net-found
3 of the 4 nets found were anchored and unattended. Not cut loose, not sabotaged.
Yikes.
How long before theres some confrontations over this?
there is only one way to control this kind of waste and disrespect,,, who ever may be responsible...native or otherwise....
BAN THE USE OF GILL NETS!!
gill nets are non selective harvesting. size, quantity, species ect ect. its what clear cutting is to logging/forestry.
wake up MNR! pull your balls outta your purse and do whats right for the resource!
it sucks that the natives are ruining a once thriving fishery
Treaty rights are a federal issue and im not sure that MNR has any ability to ban the commercial use of gillnets under those rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by muskie dan
Unless the government is prepared to actually lay charges and actually put people in jail then prosecuting is wasted money. Caledonia pretty well defined this government's attitude about first nations policy. You can pretty well kiss the Nipissing fishery goodbye.
Such a shame. What lake will they move to next after killing Nipp?
Talon or NosbonsingQuote:
Originally Posted by mbhunter
that i did not know, thanks for the insight.Quote:
Originally Posted by blasted_saber
but still, some level of govenment must stop bending over and put an end to this at some point...we would hope.
This is not a treaty right as I understand it. The commercial fishing was brought in and it should be taken away.
Remember this next time you buy a Pikeral dinner, you are supporting this crap.
Wynne doesn't card about anywhere other than the Golden Horseshoe so this won't be given any priority.
As long as the non-native people buy the fish, moose, deer, etc. the native people will keep harvesting and selling. Supply and demand. We need to get our heads out of the sand as well.
Drug dealers would go out of business if the buyers stopped buying.
Lakes like Nipissing cannot support a commercial fishery.
Commercial fishing is not a treaty right. Subsistence fishing is.
The next thing you will have natives clear-cutting crown forests claiming a treaty right to gathering wood.
Doesn't really matter what the treaty rights are as no government will enforce judgements anyway and they just laugh on the way out the court room door. The OPP have shown us they will not intervene and I doubt any other regional police force will either. The MNR wont waste resources beyond putting on a show for cameras.
Unless first nations benefit from our laws they don't recognize the crown or authority.
They don't sell moose or deer. Where the hell did you hear that?
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Originally Posted by redd foxx
If someone's not maintaining and checking their nets that's a safety issue, at that point I believe they are free to be taken ashore and any fish set free.
dont forget it's illegal to waste resources so help yourself to any fish that are about to spoil lol
Sad fact is, Nippissing is going down the tunes and that's not going to change. I don't think you will see any action taking place till the fishery collapses.
Should read tubes not tunes
Stupid auto correct
You're joking right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonkers
Lets all OFAH members join together block roads and railway tracks and demand changes. It works for the natives, I am sure the OPP would let us get away with it. May be something we have to do to get action.
It works for the natives because the government is afraid of the natives. We would go to jail. Do you remember the show "one dead Indian"?Quote:
Originally Posted by skipper
Waaaaay more hubbub over that than the Moncton shooting.
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They don't sell moose or deer. Where the hell did you hear that?
See below...it is being done and when we non-natives buy it we create the market and keep it going ...legal or not.
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Canad...72976-sun.html (http://www.torontosun.com/News/Canad...72976-sun.html)
By TRACY MCLAUGHLIN, SPECIAL TO SUN MEDIA
BARRIE -- Three aboriginal hunters are now on trial facing more than 50
offences including the commercial sale of moose, bear and deer meat, as
well as black bear gall bladders.
David Stock, 39, of the Wahta First Nation; Anthony Williams, 32; and
his father George Williams, 55, of the Moose Deer First Nation in the
township of Georgian Bay, north of Orillia, are charged under the Fish
and Wildlife Conservation Act.
Canada has the largest remaining black bear habitat in the world and
their gall bladders are sought after for use in traditional Asian medicine.
Provincial conservation officer John Diebolt told court how he acted
under cover as a real estate agent who also organized game hunts. He
said he stopped at a gas station near the Wahta reserve where a cashier
told him David Stock was the best hunter around.
Diebolt said when he met Stock in his home he offered to take him hunting.
"He told me he hunts whenever and whatever he wants," Diebolt said.
Stock, who is in custody for a trafficking firearms conviction, smiled
and laughed as he sat in the prisoner's box.
I hate to say it but if this keeps up some of the good ol' boy locals will cut the OPP out of the loop and then things will get nasty. I think it's time for the Band Council to do it's job and reign in the bad actors. If the bad actors are NFN then it's time for the mNR to do their job. I agree that the purchasing of wild fish and game supports this activity. Again that's up to the same authorities to regulate depending on whether or not the sale is on reserve or off reserve. More money for enforcement would help I'm sure.
Dan O>
we have to get them interested in Asian carp, so they can go down and clean that mess up before its too late