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Watch this video of how easily this tree stand breaks, and yes I know he is using this incorrectly but 15-20 up a tree this can easily happen. I'm in the market for a nice light weight tree stand but this video is making me second guess it.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hP8-4VnoM5M
If that link does not work search tree stand of death on YouTube. There is two clips. 1st one the upper breaks, the 2nd the lower breaks, not quite as easily, but it breaks
I only watched the link you put on... BS IMO.
Number one, he was on the outside using all his muscle power to push down on the very end; I believe most would have their hands on the sides, evenly distributing the weight as they use their legs to raise the lower section.
Tree Stand safety is very important, one should know the operation of the stand, how to use it properly, and be comfortable with it. A person should also always use a safety belt with a climbing rope and a prusick know combination, with it used properly no fall will be more then a few inches.
Not the style of safety harness/rope I prefer; but one that is safe none-the-less. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkqOma6tO9o
if you read thru the comments section below the videos (either of them)....seems most guys see thru the ruse.
How can you blame the product if you intentionally misuse it ?
Pretty sure I could hang my truck from mine, although I would be more worried about the tree. One thing I do with my climber is keey it in the house though.
Looks like total BS to me. That minimal amount of effort suggests it was tampered with deliberately to fail. I use a Summit Goliath and unless the welds were to fail it is rock solid. Any American made treestand is always under rated by 50 lbs as they as a nation are absolutely paranoid of litigation. Watching this video certainly explains why they worry about being sued by scammers.
If you go out of your way to make something fail it will, notice how he keeps shifting the cable vs platform location till he knows he has it just right, you would never do this in the real world, manufacturer makes it clear, cable is high, platform is low, then you put your weight on it, makes total sense if you put the 2 close on same level you can torque it over. First time you get on the climber (ground level) and move around you'll get it instantly. I have a Summit Viper, I'm 6'2", 230lbs, I have zero concern putting my faith in my set-up, I will and do stand right out to the edge, best way to make sure the cable and teeth settle into the tree. Always make sure you have your climbing harness on, use your safety gear, I've never needed mine to save my butt but if it does just once in the next 10 years its worth the effort. Don't hesitate to go with a climber, practise so your comfortable.
Maybe this guy put some cuts in it as well as getting it right in the right spot where failure is assured. Maybe not. Just wanted to hear other peoples opinions on these thing's. On only 160 5'8. I'm thinking I'll be OK. Fell of Twp storey roof a few years back, just didn't want a repeat. Thanks folks
Buy a summitt or lone wolf and practice. Wear a safety harness up and down and tie the bottom to the top. Buy quality. API is not a high end brand.
I'm leaning towards a summit, is there a specific model that folds up smaller than others but still comfortable? I have to portage a few times and hike a few kms before I get to my spot and the less/lighter the gear is the better. The lone wolf ones seem less that might pack up relatively small but there's a fairly large price tag on them.
Check out the handclimber... Its small light.. And designed for the hunter on the go..Quote:
Originally Posted by habbi_88
You want a model you can sit on the bar while you climb, I see Summit came out with an Open Shot which is very light but the climb is dependant on your arms for top half, get the full wrap around bar, you can stop at any point in the climb and rest, pause, look around etc. When set up you can lay your bow across the front if you want. The Vipers seat lays down the length of your back so you get some built in padding, weight is not bad at all, the only thing I would look at improving on would be shoulder straps, you don't need to swap them out, just slide on a sleeve of extra padding and your good to go for long distances, I have no problem walking in several kilometers with as is set up. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by DGM999
What he said ^^^^. The secret is to make sure both pieces are tied together snugly so they don't clank around while walking in and have the straps adjusted properly.
Lone Wolf packs up very small and are still comfortable, extremely well made. Easy to pack in and quiet to boot.
Like they say "It's not the fall that kills you. It's the sudden stop at the bottom." I lost a friend a long time ago from a fall from one of those things. I think of him every time I see one. No thanks,I'll stick with make-shift blinds and good camo. Terra firma,good,hanging from a tree,not so much.
The couple lbs diff on the models is really insignificant, the Vipers back rest lays down your back when folded for carrying, so thats covered, shoulder straps are strong but if you add a layer of padding they get down right comfortable, I walk quite a distance and have never had an issue, the Viper allows me to sit on the bar when climbing, pause, look around, etc. Some models (open shot) force you to use arms only which puts you in a position to actually work, I hate that :), plus you can lay a bow across the front of the Viper (padded/quiet) so you can sit or stand with bow close at hand. big bonus, comfortable enough to snooze, you want to get quiet and become one with a tree, this will do it.
pretty funny video how he tries to give it a slap at the end. haha