Hey guys just looking to get some scent free clothing. What's everybody wearing ? So much to chose from been looking at under amour. Want a set to use this coming fall and winter deer hunt (bow). Is there one suit that would do it all?
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Hey guys just looking to get some scent free clothing. What's everybody wearing ? So much to chose from been looking at under amour. Want a set to use this coming fall and winter deer hunt (bow). Is there one suit that would do it all?
Went bear hunting friday night and shot a bear. Buddy and camp owner were tagging up and did not shower and smelled very very bad with the hot weather. Wind was to their face and they shot a 250 pound boar. That stuff is great marketing but really works very little. Scent control is all in the wind direction. Does not matter what you try and put on if you are down wind you are getting busted. Better to save your money and buy what is on sale. I do. I do try and shower before I hunt with scent free soap and keep my hunting clothes in a closed bag. But if they wind sucks then I am going to get busted.
I have the spray and all the soaps. So you think it doesn't work or it's not worth the money. I really just need lighter stuff my other camo is way to bulky for bow. The stand I am hunting out of the deer sometimes come in behind me or in front of me so I am just trying to cover my scent as much as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbonura
Don't get caught up in the routine, play the wind. You could wrap yourself in a nuclear hazard suit and have someone spray you down with scent killing spray and still the deer will be able to smell you. That being said I use Canadian made Sport Chief clothing when I deer hunt.
By the sounds of it I think I might be going with the plain jane camo and the money I save I will buy a decent harness cause the one that came with ladder stand sort of sucks. Lol. Thanks
Ya buy some lighter clothing and just store it in a large Tupperware container with some evergreen boughs. You cant block scent, only mask it as much as possible. I wash mine with the special soap once before bow opens and then the night before rifle opens, not sure if it physically helps but definitely helps get me into the hunting mindset and feel like I have my chit together. This way a $10 bottle of detergent lasts 5 years.
If you want to spend extra on clothing I would suggest paying the premium for quiet material not scent blocking.
Ok thanks for the help and saving me some cash. Heading to Erie Tracker this week and needed some opinions to help me chose what to get.
Maybe look at the winds and move your stand. Buy it if it makes you feel better but play the wind.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost1324
North wind be preferable cause the deer trail is 15 feet away from stand that is 15' up hoping it will blow over top them but they will prob be already in shorting lane by then.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbonura
Good move on your part not buying into the scent free clothing. One of the best marketing programs ever to come at hunters.
I always keep a cigar lit when hunting - helps me to read the wind.
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Originally Posted by ghost1324
$$$ spent on a good harness is far better spent than $$$ on scent blocking clothes.
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Originally Posted by ghost1324
Scent blocker clothing is a scam. Even if it was 100% effective which it isnt then everytime you exhale you saturate the air with scented molecules from your breath. Use your money for something useful and always dope the wind. I carry a small spray bottle of unscented talcum powder. It tells you what the wind is doing nicely. They are in the archery section with the face paint usually and cost @ $3 bucks.
x2. I've haven't found a scent blocking clothing brand yet that can contain my wind after a bowl of chilli and a few brews. lol. Play the wind as best you can, and take as many scent killing precautions as you can. I use an ozone generator to kill scent in all my clothes and gear before every hunt. It helps, but I still get busted the odd time.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
It will not blow over them.. move the stand or put it on the other side of the trail. Clothes will not help either.. or an ozonator or anything else for that matterQuote:
Originally Posted by ghost1324
How did we ever shoot anything before we had all these "must have" gizmos and gadgets? Our parents and grandparents are likely laughing themselves silly at us. LOL They didn't have any of these "necessities". They had no difficulty being successful hunters.
I can hunt other side of stand to behind me is a natural spring that they have been tearing it up pretty good. With a few good shooting lanes. Got a hang on to put up yet too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frozenfew
Save your money and hunt downwind, no such a thing as no scent unless you zip yourself up in a plastic bag.
That's a good idea. That would be a lot cheaper. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fishing1
So true. Me and a buddy were talking about that the other day.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
The carbon in the suits does soak up scent, but the 6 months of them sitting on the shelf at your local store ruins that.
I never got how the sales person can tell you that I need to keep all my gear away from scents but they have them hanging in the store.
If they were sold in vacuum sealed bags then maybe.
Just watch the wind and don't move and you will be fine.
LOL, I was thinking just that. Clothing aisle at Cabelas.....30 feet away from the beer nuts and jerky....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I have tried all the gizmos lol sure they may help but not 100%..........this yr I spent some money on good Sitka gear to keep me quiet and warm which trumps scent blocking any day in my eyes......If I am warm I can hunt all day. I do still spray myself down and shower in scent free.....but only because I am a sucker for gadgets and gizmos lmao and maybe deep down I think it may give me an edge or at least make me feel good that I tried everything lol
That Sitka stuff is really expensive. It comes on sale @ camofire half price but don't know how they size. How do you like it. Are they really mobile.Quote:
Originally Posted by twostroke
I bought my stuff this yr used off a fellow member (JBEN) send him a PM he is an ambassador for the sitka gear and knows it alot more. I havent used it on a hunt yet, but just putting it on I didnt wanna take it off. Its amazing gear, well designed and very versatile for the bow hunter..... I picked up his fanatic bibs and jacket and I cant wait to hit the woods in this stuff....quiet and seems very warm, pocket and zipper design are a greta feature with the bowhunter in mind. It certainly is crazy expensive but if you do enough hunting its worth it as I am sure you know once you have froze your a#$ off in the stand enough times, or had noisey gear you got busted on..........I also have the scent lok vertigo grey timber fleece its good gear right up until it gets real cold as well and again silent ...check it out as well and its actullay very reasonable and has some nice features too. It appears to have a lot of white in it but I assure you the deer dont give ahoot what color it is as long as it breaks up your silouette which it does nicely while ina tree.....had 2 smaller bucks at 5 yrds below me last yr that I passed on never even knew I was there.
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Originally Posted by ghost1324
I look at it a bit differently.There is no doubt that you can't completely fool a wise old buck or big bear no matter what you do. You can play the wind all you want but if the animal decides to circle downwind of a bait pile or a hunter calling and rattling, then your chances of being scented are much greater. Plus, winds are often variable in speed and direction in the woods. At least if you can minimize your odor you stand a better chance of being undetected. It's kind of the same as being downwind of someone who hasn't showered in days or reeks of cigarette smoke. You can pick them out from much further away.
So yea, the clothing doesn't not work near as well as they say, nor do all the scent killer sprays help that much to totally eliminate your scent, but I believe they are better than not doing anything. If nothing else, they give me a bit more confidence that the deer or bear who is downwind just might not bust me as readily as if I was all stinky in the stand, or it might just give me those extra few seconds to get a shot off that I wouldn't have had time for otherwise.
Field and Stream did some good tests using trained police dogs. Turns out your best odds were using cover scents and ozone.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl.../07/sniff-test
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl...e-a-difference
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl...reducing-produ
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl...g-dog?dom=fas&
loc=hpslider2&lnk=IMG
Cheers
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Originally Posted by smitty55
I've often wondered about that ozone dispenser unit, sounds like that may help a little. As for the rest of it, good marketing can sell anything.
I have read lots of reviews saying they work. How big mature bucks have come in right down wind not knowing anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by skeeter1
Was it from the people who are trying to sell the product?Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost1324
Suppose to be reviews of people who have bought it. Wasn't on their own website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Ozone generators work. That's science. Do I believe they will make a difference 15' up in a tree, no. But for treating your gear between hunts, they will eliminate odor causing bacteria and microorganisms. Thanks for sharing this link smitty55.Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty55
What about in a ground blind?Quote:
Originally Posted by LowbanksArcher
I believe it would help. And would be more similar to the field and stream test where the 'hunter' was in a box. However, if you look into the affects of ozone on a persons lungs, you may reconsider wanting to breath it in during your hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost1324
It's expensive and getting bulkier by the season. 7 or 8 years ago it was the only thing available. Nowadays they are owned by big business and profit margins hurt it's innovation and price point. I wouldn't give you a nickel for any of the fanatic series. Kuiu and first lite are companies leaving Sitka in the dust as far as quality and design go. I've owned Sitka pieces.. All have failed prematurely.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost1324
If anyone has questions.
Stuff I own.
Mountain line
Core shirts
90% pants
Jet stream jacket
Forest
90% pants
Core shirts
Kelvin pants
Kelvin jacket
Fanatic bibs and jacket, sold because Ive added a few pounds over the years
Incinerator bibs/Jacket (innovative stuff made of Goretex and 700 fill power down)
Waterfowl (new lines with new stuff)
Pantanal Jacket
Boreal Jacket (goretex and 650 fill power down to keep one toasty warm on even the coldest and wettest days)
More gloves, hats, and non essentials.
somewhere around freezing during this sit that saw nothing but snow and freezing rain
http://jbenphotography.ca/img/s1/v54/p1335598190-5.jpg
-20 during this 3.5hr sit in
http://jbenphotography.ca/img/s10/v101/p451179482-5.jpg
-30 this day during this 3.5hr sit. Thank god goretex and down doesn't work
http://jbenphotography.ca/img/s10/v109/p146706786-4.jpg
Don't take my work for it, I rarely use the stuff.
Is it for everyone? Nope.
Is it worth the price they charge? Hard to say, depends on many things I guess. Can say, there are all kinds of hardcore hunters, guides who spend crazy amounts of hours in some of the harshest places relying on it.
I can say, I wont buy anything but and I do have pieces that are years old and like new. And when I show people those pieces, let them inspect seems, knees, zippers, more. They have a hard time believing me when I tell them how old it is, and how many hours hard use Ive put into them
To each his own.
Not a plug for Sitka...there are other options and I will not try to "sell anyone on it" it is really expensive :(
I just know what I know
Here is a write up how ozone works and about how it affects your health I got from another forum in case anybody wondering.
http://www.bowhunter.com/big-game/un...t-elimination/
Good read. I bought a Log6 ozone generator years ago at Erie Tracker when they first came out, and was sure it was gonna be the next big thing. Like the guy writing the article said, I feel at a serious disadvantage without it. Never wash my clothes during the season anymore. Just throw them in a tote, and let them ozone for 30 mins. Done.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghost1324
Have never used scent blocking clothing in the past, I did purchase the Bass Pro Tech Softshell with Zeolight technology, I would not have purchased it at full cost but did want some quiet, soft, warm camo for bow hunting, this was on sale for half so grabbed complete set for 100$. I will still play the wind and do all the things that I would normally do but perhaps this little tweek will provide an extra advantage. Guess we'll find out come October.
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Originally Posted by werner.reiche
I agree 150%
I generally wear fleece and wool as much as possible. I picked up a cheap pair of camo fleece pants and a matching hoodie for deer hunting. I slap a blaze vest over top. Underneath, I wear whatever clothes I happen to put on that day. Fleece give/mitts complete the list. I wash my hunting clothes the night before in borax to help reduce the scent trail from the clothes. Borax is cheap, a cereal sized box is about $50 and would last me two or three years of washing hunting clothes. My daughters wear a uniform for school, so it is also used to help keep the whites white without having to bleach all the time.
My hunting area has many of the trails semi-brushed out in late august or early September. I usually have a west wind and that works well for walking into my watch which is about 60 feet above the forest floor in a natural, protected "cutout" in the edge of a rock ridge. The wind generally blows my scent well over the deer and most of them come in near the base of the ridge. They don't think to look that high up for danger, generally don't smell me and I have the ridge behind me covered with junipers and oak trees to prevent them from seeing my silhouette against the sky.
My hunting partner smokes and we get covered in outboard exhaust on the way out to our hunt area. We are seeing in the neighbourhood of 6-20+ deer over usually about seven days of hunting. This year, maybe not so much considering our tough winter. Watching the wind is the biggest factor in scent control, not some BS marketing...
I bought some rocky athletic mobility nice and quiet plus has spot for my harness. Was happy with the price to.
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My hunting partner smokes and we get covered in outboard exhaust on the way out to our hunt area. We are seeing in the neighbourhood of 6-20+ deer over usually about seven days of hunting. This year, maybe not so much considering our tough winter. Watching the wind is the biggest factor in scent control, not some BS marketing…
Just my personal thoughts. The above is what I suspect many overlook when going to extreme lengths to "eliminate" scent. AFAIK it is impossible to eliminate all odor….scent molecules. More than just Field and Stream have tried over the top test to fool blood hounds…all fail.
A Whitetails nose>>>>Bloodhounds, sniffing dogs who can detect even the tiniest traces of explosives buried within air tight containers, filled with coffee beans (masking)….
A whitetails nose is sensitive enough to not only pick up even the slightest, wee tiniest molecules, but also separate from them all others. So even if, you eliminate 99.99999%…..that 0.000001 is too much. Your busted.
And we constantly emit, drop those molecules. So the minute, the very second you touch those clothes and transfer them from the dryer to the air tight vault…busted…..then take those clothes out of the air tight vault, put them on and start walking…busted. Unless you want to build a stand that is more hot tub, than stand and sit in a vat of vinegar for 4 hrs…..busted.
Buy your clothing for fit, form and function.
Not fancy camo patterns
Not "scent blocker"
What's going to keep you comfortable, dry, safe and is designed well with pockets, zippers, vents and articulated so material doesn't gather and pinch while trying to still still for hours. (if you understand and appreciate technical clothing) to accommodate doo dads, widgets, gidgets, smelly gum, candy, snack bars, and even smokes.
read up on layering. Theres layering and theres effective layering.
and then play the wind.
And with respect to "cost" for X or Y.
How much good is that $1,000 bow, with $200 sight, and $20 arrows and $300 range finder doing you when it's too cold, wet miserable and you'd rather stay home…..Or you pack it in and go home because your feeling the chill... doing you?
Near as I can tell, no $500 or $1,500 bow has ever killed a Whitetail while its in the vault at home. Forget the bows that stay in closets when its raining and -2 to +1, or its -10 to -20 and the winds howling.
How much good is the $200 range finder doing you and $400 in other gadgets and scent eliminating products doing you?
We have no problems spending a lot of money of the tools of the trade that do us no good when…... Yet we skimp on the most important. The stuff that allows us to go out when its miserable, stay out when its miserable..and worst case…..get home to tell the tale.
Then u smell like the plastic bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishing1
save your money , pack your hunting clothes in cedar and watch the wind