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Due to bylaw.changes.. I lost three farms this year, went today to go start my deer hunt.. Talked to the new farmer to confirm everything's good etc. And he told me his wife doesn't anyone "shooting Bambi" so... There goes my last farm in 78.
What a wonderful fcuking day.
Sucks dont it.....Same thing happened to me last year..tree huggers show up and BINGO..
Brutal.....What timing.....Tell the farmer you don't shoot bambi...Only his granddaddy
I have a place like this as well, I'm still aloud to hunt, But only after coyotes killed there little ankle bitter a few winters ago. I told them I'm only coyote hunting if they let me deer hunt as well....
Just wait that they eat all her flowers....Quote:
Originally Posted by topher
I lost it for waterfowl too.. Farmer kept telling me I couldnt hunt till after his beans were out.
start off by taking pics only ,,,,,,,and then ask to scout out and set up a perch???????????
Bummer man. I feel for you. I curse Walt Disney every year for creating Bambi.
I'm not quite sure I fully understand. You just went today and there was a new owner that you didn't know about??
Cheers
Seems a black cloud follows you around.
No.. Knew the new owner and we talked.. Said all was good after the beans were out. Noticed the beans were gone.. So I was gonna go and he told me the good news.Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty55
Ouch that sucks. I know there are plans to put up a new street of home down near where I deer hunt, hasn't happaned yet but probably not far off. I'm sure there will be complaints in the future.
Too many "hunters" out there giving us law-biding hunters a bad name!
No . Too many men out there who have not read " The Man's Handbook " written by me . LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunterrev
TD
Now wouldn't that be "The Old Man's Handbook"? Maybe I should write the new one. ;)
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Originally Posted by 400bigbear
Thats the truth. Too many land owners are sick of whiners and kicks everyone off. Lost a bush 1 week for the season opened a few years back. Had to take down 5 sets. Pain in the .Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunterrev
Boys don't kid yourselves. It'll all be gone soon enough. This is just the start. Pretty soon if you don't own it you're screwed.
So sorry for your loss, I've been there. All you can do now is start knocking on doors. Best of luck to you.
Years ago when I was a kid the farmers would give you a wave as you went in to hunt for rabbit, grouse whatever. Problems began that I noticed in the early 80's more people from the cities were moving out to the country buying up old farms and building their yuppie mansions and with the majority of those city people came their attitudes.
I just tried to get permission for a property up the road from me. I'd been trying to track the owner down since spring. Finally talked to him today. He says he already has guys hunting on his property (none that I've ever seen but fair enough) and if he starts letting too many guys on then he ends up having to manage things. Sucks to be told no but nothing I can do about it and it's totally understandable.
Part of the problem:
In a natural environment 8/10 fawns die.
Bears on avg. eat 3
Coyotes, Wolves, Cougars take another 4
One will die of natural causes.
Around more developed areas (Tree Huggers) who think they are saving "bambi" the survival rate is 7/10.
So you get this deer explosion every spring, lots of food, farm fields, natural food supply...etc.
Then the fall comes, farm fields go, and if we get a bad winter, the deer hunker down in the thickets and just starve to death.
2X I've come across dead piles. 14 deer one time, 8 another, all starved to death, and the "TREE HUNGERS" don't see it, F'n Idiots.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bow-Hunting-Ontario-Canada/152778298103414?ref=hl
I was gonna say wait till the eat her beloved cat/toy dog
Land owners have the Right to refuse the use of their land.With that in mind, the answer to all your problems becomes obvious, you have to invest in your hunting future.
Options
Have a decent amount of money, buy land.
Have a small amount of money buy land with another hunter or hunters.
Have an even smaller amount lease land seasonally, get a money break via sweat equity.
Have no money locate and hunt public or Crown land.
But for goodness sake don't sit there whining and moaning about tree huggers, city folks and other perceived obstacles to your hunting.
As land is swallowed up for development in southern Ontario,it leaves us with very limited options as Gilroy has already pointed out. Some conservation forests allow hunting,but,with multiple usage by many people,it's becoming very dicey for the use of firearms. My own solution is to drive north to hunt,making a day or weekend of it. Ontario is a vast province. There's lots of Crown land to hunt. The days of hunting close to home for us are over.
Yes I know.. it just sucks as I got an antlerless tag this year.. I'm not whining.. more venting.
i think this should be the place where you should topher. with the grace people show eachother on these boards, i wouldn't be surprised if someone invites you to their spot at some point privately.
farmers out here in niagara region are getting rude about people asking to hunt their farms.
You're right Mattc. They get tired of the constant knocks at the door. I just rolled my eyes when the instructors at the turkey course made some suggestions as to how to get land permission for hunting, sound like it was a breeze. It was likely easy to get permission in the late 80's but that ship has sailed. My son and I tried goose hunting several years ago and virtually gave up because you have a very difficult time getting landowner permission.
hey topher a black cloud has been following you this year for sure .have you been out hunting at all this year .Dutch
Round here all the farms are gated. no hunting signs are more common than no trespassing signs.. farm houses are being turn down and mcmansions are being built. Most homes have a Mercedes SUV it some other luxury car. The farmers that once owned the lands gas been bought out by city execs. Some of the lands is still being farmed, but the lands is leased.. Or rented out.
Lands used to be easy to get. Farmers have been so jaded from trespassers and or post bad hunters not giving them our their property respect that even family friend won't give permission. (My family has been here since the 40s) that's the state of hunting in my area..
Years ago I met a guy from the Niagra area who had just bought a farm. It was his first venture at rural living and he was shocked when some guy came knocking at his door asking permission to continue hunting. Apparently this hunter had been hunting the property for years and was just trying to secure permission with the new owner. He told the hunter he had some nerve asking to hunt on property he didn't own. He told the guy it's like driving into a sub division and knocking on a strangers door and asking if you can swim in their backyard pool. Clueless. I tried to explain the long standing traditions of hunter/landowner relationships but he just didn't get it. He really wasn't anti hunting, he was just appalled that a total stranger would ask to hunt on his land.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattc
wow thank goodness I live by tons of crown
And this sounds very familiar for me. Spent lots of time to get landowners permission, but no luck and finally gave up. I think the future of hunting on southern and south western Ontario is getting more and more limited. We should either use crown lands which is crowded with lots of other hunters and obviously less animals, or drive up to north, or by a land (but how many of us can afford it?), or just use guided hunt (not many exists). I chose the last option for this year and booked my hunt for the next week, and if I find it good, I will try for the coming years... Just not wasting my time to knock the door and get nothing ...
Well said!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy