Anybody have any details on the death in the Palmer Rapids area that was reported by the OPP ? Don't know if it was an accident or medical problem .....:confused:
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Anybody have any details on the death in the Palmer Rapids area that was reported by the OPP ? Don't know if it was an accident or medical problem .....:confused:
Very few details as usual. I have seen several reports saying it was a hunting accident, one saying the victim was shot.
Any links ?
I found one.
http://www.quintenews.com/
Few details, but three agencies were called in to investigate so it could be a big mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter John
To speculate:
1) person was not wearing orange and was shot.
2) 1st person trips shoots 2nd person
3) Couple poacher got in a fight...
4) trespasser on quad hit tree/ditch
5) what ever other wild ideas someone can come up with..
Looks like we will have to wait for the details to come out.
I think you would find that the OPP and MNR are jointly involved every time there's a hunting accident. No need to read more into this than that.
From what the locals have to say about it it appears that there was a small group ot hunting in the Palmer Rapids to Hardwood Lake area and a man accidentally shot his nephew. The rest I have heard is pure gossip and bull squirt.
That is true but the Renfrew County Crime Unit raises a flag.Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
The problem some times is like this.
You and I go hunting somewhere, and after a long day of hunting you slip getting out of the shower, and hurt your finger. When we take you to the doctor, the injury will be recorded as a hunting ACCIDENT simply because we are on a hunting trip.
If you did the same thing the first night you got home it now goes in the records as a "SLIP AND FALL".
You hurt yourself riding the quad while hunting it's a hunting accident, do the same thing driving around the back forty scouting and it's a vehicle accident.
Not really. Any time you have a firearms fatality, the local OPP are going to call in specialists from further up the police food chain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
This story is popular among hunters looking to discredit the games anti-hunters play with statistics, but it isn't true. In fact, statistics of hunting accidents are coded as to the type and cause of the accident. For each incident, we know not only whether it was a shooting, but also whether the shooting arose from misidentifying the target, careless gun handling, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
It's not relevant here, anyway. The victim was shot, according to Cool 101 radio, in Belleville.
None of this kind of speculation does us any good. It just stokes up rumours. Like oaknut said.
Edited to add: identity of the victim has been released. David Hass, age 37.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...dent-1.2831540
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Originally Posted by welsh
I agree Andrew it does stir up speculation and rumours. My father in law passed away at the hunt camp this passed spring due to an accident. Everyone was involved like you said and he was found some days later. I'm glad it never got on this forum because the false rumours that would have been spread around would of been devasting to my wifes family. We heard enough of it through other sources such as facebook and newspapers. Let the OPP and MNR do the job they are trained to do.
Worst thing to do is "speculate"....Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
The crime unit being called in is standard procedure in cases of this nature. Don't read anything into it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowwalker
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Originally Posted by rick_iles
Who in their right mind would post a bunch of BS like that....wait for the facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow thats a bad hunting accident somebody is dead and anti hunters will be all over that for some damn reason
The Killaloe OPP have released the name of the man killed in Saturday's (Nov.8) hunting accident in the Township of Brudenell, Lyndoch and Raglan. Police say 37 year old David Hass of Ameliasburgh Township was hunting on Elwoods Road in Palmer Rapids when the accident occurred. The investigation is continuing in conjunction with the Ministry of Natural Resources.
As the post "so it could be a big mess to speculate...." then a couple example of the normally speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Figured people would have caught that..
This is all that has been released in the local paper today.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...nting-accident
An old friend of mine lives in Palmer Rapids so I emailed him to see what he knew about the incident. Here's his reply...
" Hi Mike.. Yes it was "SAD NEWS" to hear. It was his Uncle's Gun Bullet (as Far as we Know) that
hit him. Say it Ricocheted off rock's. BUT it is still under Investigation. The Body
and Both Gun's are now in Ottawa.. The Funeral in to be Held on Friday , if Investigation
is complete. People are saying that it was Impossible for the Uncle to have Hit him.
David in married with 2 Young Children. No other news yet Lot's of Rumors ----
I know them very well also I had Elwood help me Put up Build the "Play Structure"
in Hardwood Lake Park. Hard to say... Sometimes People don't wear enough Hunter Orange..
I have caught a Lot of People this year wearing "Camouflage" clothing, and those Construction
Coat's with the Yellow Cross Those are all illegal Must be Hunter Orange.. And I get Mad..
Any way ------"
What I find alarming is the numbers of hunters who still don't seem to follow the hunter orange laws. Not that this is necessarily the case in this incident. I guess there isn't much enforcement up that way.
Talked to a local firefighter who was involved. He also claimed it was an unpredictable richochet but he also claimed that the OPP are all upset because there were a few involved who had no PALS ( or whatever they are currently called).
Very sad for all involved.
I want to lay this whole rumour mill to rest. My husband David Hass died doing what he loved on November 8th, 2014. Hunting was his passion and he took it very seriously along with the rest of his gang which included close family and friends.
- yes he was wearing ALL orange, more than required. Full blaze orange coat, pants and hat- no camouflage or any other ridiculous things mentioned
- everyone in the gang had their possession and acquisition licenses and all required safety training, in fact some people were or are volunteer firefighters.
- no one tripped
- NO poaching
- and NO one was drinking either, as I am sure people are wondering that too
It was a one in a million shot. Through thick brush and trees, I don't even know how the bullet got to him as the shot was fired fairly far away. Sometimes things just don't make sense, and speculating on something that you have no idea about just hurts the people involved. Simply put, it was a horrible accident, sometimes accidents do happen no matter what kind of precautions are taken. So please, before judging too quickly, take a moment and put yourself in someone's else shoes. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. David was a good guy, a loving father and a wonderful husband.
Rest in peace David. Me and your boys will always love you.
Thank you for your courage to put rumors to rest. Here is a valuable lesson for posters on these threads. Please accept my sincerest condolences on the loss of a great husband,father and dedicated hunter and conservationist. This is a sad loss for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by The widow
Condolences to you and your family. Thank you for clarifying and yes unfortunately accidents happen.
Thank You , for stating the facts that actually caused this terrible tragedy.
From our family , our sincerest condolences, "May he Rest In Peace "
So very sorry for your loss. You're in our prayers!
It is with great sadness that I am reading your story here. Please accept my sincerest sympathy to you and the rest of your family.
As a hunter for about forty years I feel for you. It is a small comfort to think of the happy hunting memories your husband would have shared with you in the past. Again please accept my sincerest condolence as I feel we have lost one of our own also.
louie david
I am very sorry for your loss, when we take to the woods we rarely think of anything but relaxation, bonding, celebration. We never want to think that doing something we all love could turn to tragedy.
Thank you very much for having the courage to share the facts and stop the spreading of rumors.
Deepest condolences from my family to yours.
-Steve
Thank you for taking the time during this difficult time, to put rumours to rest. Don't take the speculation and misinformation personally. In thus day of social media's this stuff gets too much momentum, before the facts are in.
My deepest condolences for your loss. My thoughts are with your family during this difficult time.
my deepest condolences
Sorry for your loss. Brent
sorry for your loss my parents live in Denbigh area,our condolences to you and your family
My condolences for your loss.
My sincere condolences, very sorry for your loss.
My sincere condolences as well, and my best wishes to you and your family during this difficult time as well as in the future.
Sorry for your loss, and my deepest condolences.
Very sorry to hear of this unfortunate accident Mrs Hass, I appreciate you speaking openly on this topic as it may help some others here understand what's possible when hunting. We heard about the accident a couple days after from some coworkers whom were in the area hunting and the story we heard was exactly what you describe, near unbelievable that it happened and it couldn't have happened to a better man. Very sad indeed. My Misses ex husband was victim of an accident of similar odds. Sometimes bad things just happen to good people.
If there is anything the hunting community can help with during this time or in the future please do not hesitate to ask.
I am very sorry to hear of your loss. You have my sincere condolences and prayers.
Scott.
So very sorry for your loss.
A sad sad tragedy...
We all feel your loss and I am also quite angry to hear that someone much younger than myself, who loved hunting as much as I do, lost his life due to unlikely and "freaky" circumstances as you have described.
It goes to show that anything can happen at anytime to anyone.
Dear Mrs. Hass, there is nothing we can say here that can truly make your loss more bearable. We are devastated to hear of this incident and the loss of a good man. The details, while important, will not change what has already happened. However, learning about those details just might help save a life in the future.
Speaking of the future, when the young ones grow up and (possibly) wish to follow their father's love of the outdoors, I hope you will let them. You are a strong and classy lady to come here and speak your mind to set the record straight. Your husband would be very proud of you for doing that.
Please accept my deepest condolences as well.
Condolences to you and your family
I just wanted to thank everyone for your condolences, thoughts and prayers during this hard time. Your kind words give me comfort.
It has been nearly a month since David died but it still feels like yesterday. Whenever I walk through the bush I will think of him. He would be the one that would get up at the crack of dawn or earlier so that he could be at his tree stand or wherever he was going to hunt and would sit there for hours waiting for that buck, moose, turkey or whatever else he happened to be hunting. Even if it was raining or freezing cold he would go, even if no one else wanted to go with him, he had this drive in him. I would always ask him, what do you think about, and he would just say, everything and anything. I think he enjoyed the solitude of being in the bush and even liked watching a fawn or doe walk by, oblivious to his presence. He had the patience to sit and wait for that perfect shot, especially when bow hunting. But he also liked to chase, especially with his dog Bud who died last hunting season coincidentally.
I know that David would have been at peace in the bush, I just wish it wouldn't have been so soon. My heart aches for him.