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I have been seeing more coyotes than ever before while training or walking my dogs but for the most part they have been keeping their distance. This morning while training I had a coyote come out of nowhere and attack my 14 month old 100lb pup luckily the coyote ran off when my old dog ran out to the rescue (not that he would have been much help). Has anyone else been having problems?
The Fri before the deer hunt I was walking the dogs in the bush when I heard a yip. I thought it was one of mine getting excited about something so I called them in. I quickly realized the yipping was from behind me and I turned around to see a yote standing 50' from us about 10' of the path we had just came in. I yelled at it and the other one hiding in the bushes and it wouldn't leave so I started walking towards it with the dogs and they finally left. I t was very scary. I had a run in with yotes last year not far from the same spot, so now we don't walk that way and I take my 410 with me.deb
I have a very unused park behind my house (Hamilton) consisting of 2 ball diamonds and 2 soccer fields. It's unofficially, especially this time of year, used as a off-leash area that people walk around. It's bordered by the 403 and a rail way/cliff. It is connected to 'green/forested' space, but is relatively urban. I access it through a very small forested section (2 acres) that has a trail running through it.
I head there 3-4 mornings, or occasionally an evening per week with my two dogs. I was there Wednesday at about 6:45am, did a loop around the fields and was walking back. The dogs are normally doing their thing, running around within 100ft of me. As I was returning to head home, I caught a glimpse of a dog run through my field of vision about 20 ft from me. Usually about this time there are other people with dogs coming to this area, so I initially though it was just one of their dogs coming to greet us. I quickly realized it was a coyote. It slowly trotted past me and my dogs, slowing down in what I presume was a attempt to get them to follow. Which of course they did (YES, the recall command is not strong enough).
They went with it briefly out of my field of view along the tracks. The dogs are a 15 lb Jack Russell mix and a 50 lb cattle dog mix. My initial thought was the little one was probably a goner, especially if she separated from the larger one. Fortunately the little one came back into view pretty quick and I got her on leash, then the larger one stayed out another 15 seconds but came back. I'm pretty sure the big one had a run in with a coyote last winter on an evening snowshoe, so I'm hoping she remembers that.
As we walked back through the trail in the forested area, I saw the Coyote ahead. It stayed about 20-25 ft off the trail. I walked right by it, staring it down. The dogs didn't even notice it (we were up wind and there was longer grass separating us). It just stood there. It looked very healthy and about 40-45 lbs.
Overall I was really impressed (and fearful) with how stealthy it was. I consider myself pretty observant and I always notice dogs when they come into the fields. The sight lines are big and the coyote would have come across a baseball diamond and through my field of vision before I noticed it (and I'm always scanning around).
100 lb? what breed? coyotes prefer smaller prey normallyQuote:
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14 month old 100lb pup
Bear bangers may be legal and effective solution to scare them away.
He is a lab. I was throwing marks and when he picked up the second bird I guess the coyote decided he wanted it too.
Coyotes have been a "problem" with dogs for many years - Lots of stories could be told.
When one of my setters was 4 months old a coyote almost got him. Pup came roaring to me , fell at my feet and wouldn't get up . Terrified!
I saw a coyote tail disappearing into the bush. Carried pup back to the car . When I looked back , 3 pair of eyes were staring at us from the top of a hill.
Turns out there was a den there , dug into the hill. Don't go there anymore. ( Adelaide and Commissioners East in London). No more deer or rabbit there , so I don't know how they survive.
I'm told we "have to learn to live together". I don't take the dogs out 2 hours before dusk . I carry dog spray - can be bought at Forest City Surplus.
PS Another dog attacked last month in the ravine at Commissioners and Wharncliffe South.
A family friend had her 2 Lurchers run down a coyote only to have the coyote turn and some how rip one of the dogs tail off. The blood in the snow after could be seen from 100 yards away. Must of been a tough coyote to take on two big dogs like that.....
I went and sat up there the next night and called with turkey distress. Missed a big coyote at 75 yards on a trot....lol damn
Songdog them luchers must be soft i have never heard or seen that happen with two lurchers and i have seen alot of them at work
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Originally Posted by bodycount
Yes they are LOL. They must have zero hunting blood in them because they will turn tail and run from my mom's cocker spaniel....
They love to chase, But will not engage with ANYTHING.
I know one guy that runs lurchers for coyotes with July walkers... .....I bet you know him as well...He's got some awesome dogs....
Yep i Know him as we run hounds together LOL
I am seeing as many as 10 coyotes every night right in the yard . The adult labs go out and they will chase the coyotes down into the fields . The labs will only follow so far then they come back and bark from the yard. A few years ago my sisters old dog (he was past 12) was killed right in the yard. Right now I have a pup and she cannot go out with out me .
The coyote hunters are coming next week and I hope they will get most of them. They will use the artificial bait ( rabbit noise) at first and then they will come with the hounds. The coyotes have become too numerous in this area.
That's one advantage in areas where they are hunted. They don't get brazen as some of those Coyotes that are used to people.
I was walking with dogs in a conservation area just after snowfall couple days ago and I saw some fresh coyote tracks.
I knew they were fresh - few hours at most. At one point my older dog dashes on the trail going across a ravine and on the other side (less than 100 yards away) I see her almost catching up with a coyote trotting away on the trail. I guess she wanted to say hello ;)
I whistle her back and she comes.
The coyote just kept trotting. I looked at the tracks after and she didn't even speed up. Those urban coyotes are not afraid of people anymore.
When Misty was about 6 months old we were "escorted" out of a conservation area by a coyote, while I was there with four small children and Misty. It stayed about 50 feet behind us the whole time, occasionally darting into the bushes and back out - a bit closer each time. Was kind of nerve wracking however when I'd had enough of it I chased him off just by yelling at it as I was approaching.
Misty, now about 60 lbs - has no issues, or qualms about putting the run on coyotes. Don't get me wrong - I don't encourage it, and I'm not sure what would happen if they didn't take the hint either, but she has put the run on them before.
I'm sure Cass could attest, our closest off-leash conservation area is riddled with them, and rabbits - hand in hand.
Bottle Rockets, are a decent substitute when dealing with coyotes. You can get them at any fireworks store and they don't take up much space in your pocket. My father in law uses them to keep the geese off his dock.Quote:
Originally Posted by vom Dufenshmirtz
What are bottle rockets
a small, fire-cracker looking, rocket that usually has a stick attached so it can be placed inside a bottle to help it fly straight up in the air. pretty awesome little buggers.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe16
Has anyone ever heard that coyotes do not come near a dog that is wearing a bell on it's collar. Afellow was telling us that he bells his beagles that hunt with the bigger hounds and that keeps coyotes from attacking them . i have never heard this before and would like some feedback.
I have heard it many times. Enough times in fact, that I had bells on my beagles. Some guys that lost beagles, switched to bells, never lost a dog again hunting the same areas.
There were long debates about this and wolves on another forum. I think it depends on the predators and their level of comfort with human's presence. In urban areas where animals get used to humans and noises we make, they won't care about the bell, in more remote locations it might work.Quote:
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Ya I don't know if I would trust the bell.
In places where coyotes come into contact with people and pets all the time it might trigger a response.....Kind of like ringing a dinner bell lol
Our old hounds all had bells on their collars. Mostly so we could hear them when they were cold tracking in thick bush.....They would never make a sound until they lifted a coyote. We have GPS now