Looking for sugestions on my first muzzleloader. Never shot one or anything just lookin to extend the gun season a bit
Thanks
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Looking for sugestions on my first muzzleloader. Never shot one or anything just lookin to extend the gun season a bit
Thanks
What ever you decide upon make sure to go out with a seasoned shooter a few times to get the hand of a ml, they can be extremely dangerous if mis used. Good luck in your search.
Have to agree. Easy to double load if you are not paying attention and talking at the range. I like the CVA Optima but CVA and TC both make great guns. A CVA Optima V2 is a nice gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by skeeter1
X3 on learning the ropes before pulling the trigger. As far as a first muzzleloader I would recommend a Savage 10ml, it may also be the only muzzleloader you'll likely buy....ever. There is a ton to learn so I recommend researching it and compare it to others of course, the big benefit is it can shoot smokeless powder so unless you want to spend more time cleaning or enjoy the smoke cloud after the shot then the research will not take long. Accurate shot after shot without having to clean every few rounds and very nice to shoot, going on ten years with mine and haven't had a bad day with it.
For a nice inexpensive muzzle-loader pick up a CVA Wolf... You can get a package deal for under $300 out the door.... Shoots great right out of the box and a tool free removable breech is a bonus...makes cleaning easy.
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Go traditional. Just saying. .
Savage ml-11 is very hard to find now. A family member just picked up a used one from a dealer after seeing my results. It didn't come with a breach plug wrench(first generation), called Savage, no inventory. Had to make one.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfish
If you want to go economical buy a Wolf. If you can afford it, upgrade to an Accura V2. Use BH209 and you can shoot without cleaning between shots but you will need to buy the Blackhorn breech plug for either of these muzzle loaders.
Thanks for all the sugestions everyone i wish i knew someone thank could show mr the ropes a bit the more i read up on them the more im finding it mite be a little tricky to learn the ins and outs on my own lol
I have assisted two friends in learning the ropes, one after he fired the ramrod along with the projectile. Another after he did not mark his ramrod at bullet fully seated (could have been devastating).
My only advice is the same as Frati above. No need to spend a lot of money on a ML. Both my wife and I shoot TC Omegas that were under $300 from Cabelas. They even came with a starter kit for that price. Add a cheap 3X9 scope to the gun and that's all you need. They'll put three shots into a 1.5" circle at 100yds. You don't need any better than that. I'm sure there's lots of brands that are good, but I'd be looking at something like a TC Impact package from Cabelas.ca. I've thought a few times about buying a fancy TC Encore, but then ask myself why, when the $1000 gun won't do anything much better than what I have now. Whatever you get, ask others to see what bullet brand/weight, and powder load shoot well out of that brand gun. I can't speak for others, but with these TC Omegas, I wasn't happy with any of the Pydrodex pellet combos, and XTP Hornadys and SST Hornadys didn't give good results. I went to loose triple seven powder, and the TC Shockwave 250 grain bonded bullet. 100 grains of loose 777 has given us great results. Nice tight groups, and the bullet is lethal on deer. We sight in at 100yds, and will confidently shoot out to about 140yds. Never had any reason/need to shoot any farther. Most of the shooting is maybe 70yds. where we hunt.
excellent advice Fenelon...no need to spend a lot of money.
I bought a Tradition Pursuit Pro for $220 about 12 yrs ago. The gun is excellent and I can hit bull at 50yds clean.
I posted this on another thread..shows x3 360 gr Kieth Nose .50 cals hitting dead centre.
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There's a big learning curve, like the others have said in previous posts, pick up something affordable and start from there, I've been shooting muzzleloader for about 15yrs and still learning
Probably the best thing to start off with would be a break action rifle. They are easy to load, shoot well and are dependable. I am partial to the tc impact but I have no doubt that the wolf, or any of the others would Be just as good. They are fairly cheap as guns go so spend a few extra bucks and buy a little better scope for it. Pick something that you like the looks of and fits well.
Cva and tc both have videos on how to for a muzzleloader on YouTube. Watch and watch them again.
Speaking of easy to double load. I picked up a double barrel 13 gauge I found the best way not to double load the barrels is load and pack the powder in the first barrel and leave the ramrod in it, then load powder and wad into the second barrel and pack it. Follow the same sequence in loading the shot charges. Another means of checking for a double charge would be to mark your ramrod for the single charge load depth. If the ramrod sticks out beyond that mark. You have most likely double charged the gun.
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