Who says you can't shoot out past 400 : )
Great shot with an ML !!!
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Who says you can't shoot out past 400 : )
Great shot with an ML !!!
Is this the gun he was using?
http://www.gunwerks.com/Shooting-Systems/muzzleLoader
$5500 base price ! lol
Any of you ballistics gurus got the numbers on that bullet at 715 yards?
He sure folded that deer up quick, heck of a shot.
High shoulder shots are guaranteed to drop a deer on the spot. Nice shot at 715 but a lot can happen in the second it takes for the bullet to travel that far. one step and you got a gut shot.
Just because you can doesn't necessarily mean you should. The problem I have with these videos is that they never show the one that went wrong.
That scope he had on that rifle was probably worth 2 grand. Exacting machining in the rifle. Custom glass on top. Turrets calibrated to a specific load. I bet they could shoot much further accurately on paper targets.
HA
Impressive
My 308 at 2600+ does about 7 mils at that distance or about 16 ft with 165 gr. So I'd guess 2200 MV maybe on the ML and 50 ft with a 45@180gr?
He cranked a bunch of come ups into the scope.
Still a pretty good shot.
OLD saying, the difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
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Originally Posted by Angus
I’ll say that was a well done promotional video of a product’s capabilities in the right muzzle loader with an experienced shooter.
It also leaves an open question such as will that bullet hold together at closer ranges without explosive fragmentation when using velocities for long range?
Advertisement never reveals the whole story about a product and just uses positive highlights to sell the product. The reality check kicks in when you use the product and see unexpected results under different parameters.
To take a real expensive muzzle loader that has long range capabilities with expensive bullets and put it in my hands would be a waste simply because I would never fully utilize its long range capabilities for my type of terrain hunting.
For me I’m more impressed with seeing targets with multiple shots revealing accuracy and consistency especially at longer ranges.
Ed
That was always part of my reasoning for NOT buying an ML10, a huge investment in something I wouldn't use to it's potential. Long range for me is 200 yds, most all of ML shooting ML is under 100yds and I can achieve that nicely with Black powder, with great results from a $300 in-line.Quote:
Originally Posted by ET1
It's unfortunate that the producers of the video failed to provide the load data. Even on their promotional video for the gun itself they leave that information out. Watching this clip it makes it look like they are using BH209, with it sitting on the bench.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEffaaeW1X0
MikePal
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with your reasoning and wish more hunters would adapt using it for making a selection for a muzzle loader. In my case the 10ML-II had what I was seeking in a muzzle-loader and fit the bill nicely. What I didn’t know at that time was the full potential of the 10ML-II until later. But my initial reasoning and not some impressive advertisement for choice dictated that I should own one. No Regrets for money spent and joy it has brought me at the range and in the field.
Ed
I would never use it. I'm always shooting my caplock or flinters now with the Omega sitting in the vault collecting dust. Now if I lived out west it could very well be a different picture.... or even S. ON where you can get some long bean field shooting in I can see the practicality of it. None the less, that is still a very long ways to be shooting at a critter.
ET1, I think they said they were using Parker bullets. I have heard (read) good things about their line of bullets.
http://www.parkerproductionsinc.com/
ET1 they have a load for your Savage
Bob Parker: I have found my Savage to be user friendly and very accurate. The
projectile it seems to like best is the 300 grain Match/Hunter. Accuracy with
this projectile is sub 3/4 inch and down range performance is very good. The
load that works best in my personal rifle is 60 grains by weight of Vihtavuori
N120
http://www.chuckhawks.com/visit_bob_parker.htm
HA
Huntaway
Thanks for posting the additional info.
As stated before I’m not a fan of 300grain bullets. The max I want to use is the 275XPB (460 S&W) that I believe will make an excellent load for moose.
For deer I use the 250SST and can produce less than a minute of angle accuracy.
The older version of the hard tipped 250SST was a real shooter but fragmented like crazy at close range. The newer Flex Tip 250SST doesn’t fragment as easily but some deterioration to accuracy.
I also have plans for the 225FTX and 200FTX for Mr. Coyote. Lots of experimental fun ahead but just need to find the time to get out and play more often.
Ed
That was a crazy shot