Has anyone had any experience with one of these? Although pricey it seems like a good item but I have never seen one in person.
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Has anyone had any experience with one of these? Although pricey it seems like a good item but I have never seen one in person.
We've had a few thread discussing it, lots of interest. Still new to the US too but guys are posting more and more info on other forums and there are new You tube videos being posted regulalry.
For the most part, the results are very good. No major complaints.
Of course there are still the idiots out there, pulled this off one forum;
Pushing his bullet, with 180 gr of T7 and wondering why he's getting bad groupings :)Quote:
Hi, new here just found this site while looking for info on the 700ml. I baught one 2 weeks ago and having troubles with it. The best group I can get out of it at 100 yards is 4" to 9" been trying loads at 180-200 grains 777 with the remington bullets and three different barnes bullets.
They had one a number of years back, lots of people had problems with them and they stopped making it.
It would be good to know if they learned from past mistakes.
And those problem's were ?? I had one circa 1998. Shot great once the 209 conversion kit was installed. The down fall to to them was it was just a 700 fabed for ml? and a pain to clean compared to the new one's that hit the market ( pick a maker ) with thumb screw breach plug's ! Bought another bolt ml but savage so a total new animal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Thanks for your input, it's much appreciated
No clue, never owned one, it was something that was floating around at the time, the gun shops in my area could not sell them and they kept seeing them come in on warranty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exo200
It may have just been the mid-90s Remington QC, not sure.
Remington should quit trying to capture any share of the ml market. Any attempt they have tried just does not work.
All indications from the users so far, this new 'Ultimate' is a success..I think they have a winner here for guys that want to shoot a BP ML long distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Final Flight
But, as Savage found out with the ML10, that market is pretty small and after poor sales in the final year the were forced to drop out of the ML market.
I am waiting for a smaller higher BC bullet to be loaded with the same muzzle loader.
I know that you can duplex your sabots but this is not standard.
When will they come out with a 35 cal spire point boat tail loaded into a 50 cal sabot?
I know Mike, tradition, ha ha.
A 35cal boat tail bullet in front of 80gr of black powder, maybe 100gr.
Pair that with an old 54cal shooting round balls and you have the late season covered.
They do you just need a .45cal barrel! http://mmpsabots.com/store/blue-sabot/. Or just build a custom .40cal or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I guess I need these.
http://www.eabco.com/PrecisionRifle.html
Well, I need a smoke pole first.
yes but buy/shop Canadian..those are made in Manitoba at Precision Bullets...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
https://www.prbullet.com/
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Originally Posted by MikePal
Perfect
I could not figure out why in a shotgun or a muzzle loader that you need such poor bullet designs when increasing the velocity.
If you start with 1500fps and you hold 1000fps at 100 yards it is a lot better than starting at 2500fps and ending up with 800fps at 100 yards.
I know the numbers are not correct but you get the idea.
I have the original model 700ml. had problems with the #11 primers . Got the 209 adapter, It shoots good but primer flash is dirty, and the spent primer is hard to remove. precision is marketing a different breach plug that encloses the primer, and a modification to the bolt, was looking online . He also has an adapted brass insert the size of a 209 primer that you can reload with small rifle primers. I got these a couple of years ago but they wouldn't work with my 209 adapter.Guessing I need the new breach plug and bolt adapter.
Regarding the precision duplex dead center bullet , 190 gr, 358 . tried some and shoot good, I was just targeting. Haven't shot anything with it exept a porky. Usually by the time our black powder season is here, There is too much snow and too cold for my liking. I think sometimes , I am just getting soft. old243
Lets try this again, now back to the original post. Is a gun that can handle 200 gr. better than an inline which you can buy(no name brands mentioned) for 229 dollars which can handle 150 gr. It will not be any more accurate. Will it shoot farther? Maybe, but it will not be any more accurate.
A lot of variables to answer that question....accurate to what range ?
Basically;
Any of the $300 in-line ML's will put you 1" of bull at 100 yds with 2 pellets (100gr) of T7.
Sticking with Black Powder...what is being talked about with the new Remington Ultimate is being accurate out to 400 yds. To achieve this, you have to flatten out the trajectory, speed up the bullet and try to defy gravity a little longer...so it was designed to use 200 gr of T7.
Then you get into bullet selection etc etc...
It depends on what you plan on using your ML for; but the simple answer is. YES these $300 ML are just as accurate as the $1000 ML for the average guy shooting 200 yds.
Has anyone shot 150-200gr of black powder?
It is my understanding that larger loads of BP require longer barrels to burn it.
How much of this powder is just going to end up in the snow in front of you?
I have tried 150 grains in several bp. My results(again my results) showed decrease accuracy over 100 gr. of triple seven. The only thing I found it to do was to increase cost and kick. I've said it before and I'll say it again, stuffing more bp down a barrel does not impress me. Remington will sell some of these, I would rather buy a $229 dollar bp.
I just ran my BP load again this fall and again found that at 50 yds, my groupings improved as I incrementally reduced the powder load from 100 grs to 80 grs. Less is better with these in-lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Final Flight
My Traditions Pursuit cost me $225 at Walmart in the US about 14yrs ago....it's been hitting bulls eyes and dropping deer and turkey since. :)