anybody know what the slot size is on trucks on lake nipissing?
http://www.nugget.ca/2015/02/05/truc...-lake-thursday
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anybody know what the slot size is on trucks on lake nipissing?
http://www.nugget.ca/2015/02/05/truc...-lake-thursday
That's one hell of a way to treat a perfectly good truck. It's a slick rig for hauling them out,though. I hope they put a patent on the design. Lots of recovery companies would be interested in that. It sure wouldn't be cheap for them the recovery and the insurance company would just laugh at you if you tried to claim it.
I would have thrown it back, looks like a chevy.
A lot of insurance co, cover thru comp. I'm told but don't intend to find out, truck stays on shore. Something must cover it cause no one could afford the recovery costs.
300 hours? That will be quite the bill! (or fixed price quote?)
Now how much to get it back in running, 2014 condition?
I had been told that insurance doesn't cover vehicles going through the ice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony
His came out in pretty good shape - the one they pulled out of Mink lake a few years back in late winter - they just dragged it back through the ice and boulders. It wasn't even recognizable as a truck (except by the rims) when they got it out. I'd guess his is write-off anyway though.
Man , That's got to cost a fortune ,and I am no mechanic but to get it running again I would imagine it would have to be dis assembled , dried and lubed and them put back together again. How long would that take ??
My understanding is if you have "All perils" or "Comprehensive coverage" you will be cover by your insurance but this needs to be checked with your insurance and it isn't for free either.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner.reiche
300 hours or roughly 25 days to recover a truck is not the norm. Not that I would ever take my truck on the ice but I sure wouldn't call these guys.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Wahoo
I was thinking the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
300 man hours? Or roughly 7 full time staff working 40 hours on the week? Something stinks....and it's not the interior of the truck.
A truck that's been under water that long will be pretty much garbage. Even if it was completely drained and dried out,to rebuild,rewire and replace all the electronics,you might as well buy a new truck. I'm fairly certain no insurance company will cover damage from a wilful act like taking a vehicle out on the ice. They all make a practice of denying claims for a lot less than that right off the bat. Then,you'd still have to honor any financial contracts on loans or they'd be suing your butt,too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter John
Not that I'm advocating fraud...but I'm pretty sure they should have reported it stolen....
That's what I was thinking ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Imagine having to keep making payments for another 5 years ??? Likely would have been better to go down with the truck,lol
Sounds like there is a story within the story here - exactly what will happen to this truck? Does it go straight to the scrapyard or get sold on some car dealers lot as an 'impeccable 2014 truck' to some unsuspecting buyer?Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
See...and there's the trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wahoo
If insurance adjuster doesn't get involved due to no coverage, it might just wind up being listed for sale.
After Hurricane Katrina did it's number down South. There were literally 1000s of vehicles that didn't get written off, due to no insurance coverage, that instead wound up being shipped elsewhere after being cleaned up, and sold.
Fortunately, I don't like GM, but I wouldn't doubt that this truck, may just wind up on some lot somewhere, for a real "steal" of a price.
Yep, if you get a good deal on a vehicle from any dealership there is a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
Agreed…Even though I recently moved out of the N.Bay area, I remember from previous years that this tow company is the only one with the equipment to retrieve a vehicle from under the ice and therefore exclusively get the business and this happens EVERY year. 300 man hours??? no one will will argue this with the tow company, the insurance will just pay and close the file….like being able to print your own money every winter.
What is involved in this recovery effort?
Article says they had to drag it on the bottom for 20 ft. How is this done? Sounds like divers (18 ft of water) would be needed to secure it and hook up cables. How many people? How long?
They mention they had to flood the ice (likely several times) to build it up for the ice to support their lifting frame. They had to cut (with saws) a large enough hole to recover the truck thru. How many guys does that take and how long? Mobilize and setup the frame. How Long? how many people? Article says they they had to lift it slowly due to weight of water...again how long? Looks like they did it all with manual chain falls...time?
I really don't shrug at 300 hours for this effort. Every photo has multiple people.
Kudos to them for having the experience and equipment for these recoveries.
Any reputable dealer wouldn't touch it,but,some of the little jerk lots.....buyer beware.Quote:
Originally Posted by mox72
i was actually out on the ice fishing when they were cutting the holes... they had a power auger and a chainsaw, well the power auger they there using was dull as heck, i augered all 6 of our holes with my 10 inch before he had 2 holes cut lol and i also saw alot of dog F'In until the boss showed up so... lol
depends on your coverage but insurance will cover you, but good luck getting a decent rate for ever after. truck would be a right off
Tthe one thing nobody mentioned was the enviromental fines! There was a guy a few years ago that sunk his truck while plowing a drag strip on the ottawa, he was close to shore and tried to get it out with his backhoe and guess what? Then there was two in the ice!
He was nailled with fines from everybody you can imagine and given so much time to pull them out, they ended up getting a crane from shore and pulled it out for him, I heard they ran the belts right through the windows and pulled it out of 3' of water that way. Rumors are his fines were about $30 000.
I used to recover stuff for folks that dropped outboards and snow machines in a lake or river. There were two of us that worked on the buddy system for safety. We charged $50/hr. and supplied all needed equipment (extra air tanks,lift bags,straps,tow straps). We worked for cash only and usually made enough to cover our scuba trip expenses for an entire summer. I'm not sure if divers still do that stuff,but,I'll bet they charge a lot more than we did.
Apparently the slot size will be custom made to fit any truck make or model.
At 300 man hours you may as well get a new truck...
had a friend years ago go through the ice at long point. he had the truck removed at his expense and tried getting the truck up and running again. he put a few thousand into it until he gave up. he brought the truck to the shop I work at and called his insurance company. in the end they paid out for the truck and would of paid for the recovery and repair bills if he had receipts to prove it. he paid the guys cash so he took a loss there.
as for reselling a flood vehicle in Ontario, i think they are still branding them irrepairable. i got a notice years ago that any flood or fire vehicle is branded irrepairable. with all the modules and electronics in cars these days it would be nearly impossible to repair properly once submerged. now the branding would only apply if the vehicle was reported to the insurance company, if no one knows then the branding would never come into play.
ive bought quite a few write offs for myself and family and repaired them at a fraction of the cost of new. all of them have zero warranty because the insurance companies notify the manufacturers that the vehicle was a total loss. im in the bodyshop business so its worth it for me but for someone to pay a shop to repair a total loss is not worth it these days because of high salvage prices.
With the methods of encapsulation on the electronics now it can take more than a bit of water to damage a board. 18' is more than a bit however....9 psi for a week or so is different than three fow for a couple of hours.
Ive got no sympathy for this guy, and I certainly dont 300 hours is unreasonable.
Pretty easy solution: Dont drive your truck on the ice, particularly in an area where this happens EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
I called my insurance company, and YES covered on the ice. Lady mentioned its no different than if I am out in the woods (off the paved road) and a tree falls on the truck.
I believe that but make sure they don't make a difference between sliding off the road and breaking thru the ice and driving on the ice and breaking thru. I'm pretty sure some insurance will insure the first scenario without any issue but not the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3Wheelerdude
Btw, what insurance do you use?
Thanks
Economical.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
I specifically asked about Ice Fishing.