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JT's honeymoon is over. His luminary like wisdom and economic genius has come home to roost. For months after his appointment media were predicting a majority for him. He ws up to 10 pts higher for months. Well, he is now in second place and the tough stuff hasn't even begun. This Eve Adams fiasco sure won't get him any ground back....LoL.
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Definitely good news. However, those numbers won't prevent a coalition go'vt between the libs and ndp?
Bushmoose, coalition talk AGAIN?!!! All governments must agree with some people at some points, does not mean it is a coalition. What next, the Supreme Court is against Harper, even though he appointed half of them?
I foresee another Conservative majority. Most people who are anti harper havent actually any idea why besides hating Conservatives. Nothing his party has done has made enough news for the average joe to actually pay attention and care.
Trudeau will split the young vote with the NDP (who traditionally get the young vote) further splitting the "left".
I hope your right blasted saber.
Far to early to predict the outcome of the future election.
Even with those numbers it's a coin toss but a majority isn't shown by those numbers.
Things can sure change between now and the election.
I'm a conservative supporter but I don't see the conservatives winning this election. There's an Anyone But Conservative (ABC) wave sweeping the nation. Most people I know won't vote conservative. The women swoon over that putz trudeau and the rest believe the lies we're told in the media or just won't vote. No one seems to have the will, intelligence, or open mindness to do their due diligence. I strongly believe this is directly related to smart phones, social media (facebook, twitter) and hashtag activism.
Well if that's the case and the outcome is Liberal then the Liberal voter should be paying higher tax's not the Conservative voter. Then the Liberal voter can put the money where their vote is.the Liberal voter can pay for the fiasco's and money wasted. Imagine getting that bill in the mail from your Liberal MP and asking you to bend over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan 09
By all accounts this Eve Adams fiasco is really hurting turdeau, even the lefty media are scratching their heads wondering what the hell was he thinking. The best line came from Craig Oliver and I quote " Trudeau should of at least googled her name and that should of told him to stay far away from her"
We'll see this Poll see-saw considerably over the next few months. We must remember that the only way McGuinty-Wynne won in Ontario was due to voter apathy. This is what happens when people don't show up to vote. The rest of Canada isn't as stupid as Toronto voters.
While voter Apathy played (plays) a large role in Ontario Trimmer, the dynamics around that aren't the same, federally as they are provincially. In a nut shell loosely speaking.
1) Buying the GTA, with its concentration of ridings ( don't have to spread the love as far/wide)
2) Buying the Union support (see buying GTA)
Are far more effective when combined with the apathy we see both in Ont/Federally.
But federally speaking the first two aren't as prevalent/possible.
Think Harper could get a majority if he won every seat in Sask/Alta, or JT every seat in Que and nothing else?
Thats what we have in Ont, that you will never see federally. Toronto has always been a Liberal bastion. When Rae lost the Unions, and after Mcguinty lost twice he figured it out. Easy peasy, its a "numbers" game.
Winning one concentration of ridings federally, and little else might get you, the opposition (see Layton taking Que) but….Politics here in Ontario are very different.
Actually I was just speaking to my brother yesterday who lives in Quebec city and he was telling me that there is definite sign of life for Harper in Quebec right now. The Quebecers hate everything about Muslims and the obvious pandering to them by Trudough is losing him support there. It is now basically a 3 way split in Quebec with Harper/Mulcair/Trudough. Wasn't that long ago that Harper would have a hard time coming in dead last. That can translate into a bunch of seats that Trudough felt were his being very much at play. In fact with a horse race like that you could see more seats go Conservative in Quebec than there has been in years. The Maritimes will never detach themselves from the Liberals but if seat rich Quebec and Ontario start splitting votes then Harper could pull it off. The Atrocities committed daily by ISIS and Putin looking like he is losing his mind more and more scares people. When they are scared they look to strong leaders. Trudough ain't that guy.
Yep. There is an eternity between now an October. And they will all try to peak at that time. That's when the rhetoric will be torqued to max.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
And never underestimate a Conservative's ability to shoot themselves in the foot during a campaign.Quote:
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No no,that was Hudak and provincial politics. Harper has exceedingly tight controls on his federal caucus. They'll stay the course as world events spiral out of control,way over the head of JT and Cryin' Tom who seem to only spin their wheels with silly rhetoric.
It's really too early to tell. They are practically tied. I think it'll be a matter of who screws up more and whose voters come out to the polls that will affect the final outcome.
What did i miss? I heard only SNN closed down... the papers are still operating and thus most of the Sun "talent" is still working.Quote:
Originally Posted by mosquito
All that's lost is a crappy network with crappy programming. Their reporters are still reporting. And really, tv networking is not the way of the future, Sun News is doing a decent job of building their online video content and if they focus on growing that they'll do fine.
I feel my blood pressure go up when Mulcair speaks on how he always seems to think he has uncovered some sort of scandal on the Conservative government. He cannot keep his composure and goes off on crazy silly rants. Prime Minister Stephen Harper stands up very calmly and gives him the facts and quickly puts out the fire Mulcair has tried to start. We need to continue with the level headed Prime Minister we have and stay away from these wacky unstable leaders of the opposition.Quote:
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