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Just wondering how many of you guys are pool 1 moose hunters but are not going moose hunting now due to group size increases??? Obviously the bump in group numbers coming a month and a half before the tag deadline doesn't leave a lot of time to grow groups to meet the new needs...
I've seen a lot of moose sign recently here in WMU #8 and #5. Saw a healthy yearling calf the other day. Last year sign was sparse. It's already starting to look better.
Chris I thought the only way to grow the moose population was to eradicate bears and wolves...Didn't think we did that yet?
Moose has a long ways to go still. The deer population is down, maybe less circling disease (brain worm)going on. Now time to deal with the predators to further help the population.
Our group of 8 p1's not going this year, didn't go last year either, using the 99z route
"99Z"? How does that work? I've obviously missed something.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlmorgan
I'm p1 not going.
This has been in effect for a long time , if not going hunting this particular season and want to stay in pool # 1 category, buy your moose license and fill in 99 z in the wmu square , this keeps you in pool # 1 category.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Ive never applied for 99 z, but understand it, but one thing. When you apply in 99z, does it count as another year in the draw without drawing a tag, or does your years without drawing stay the same? This would be for groups that "play" the tag system in senority of members and transfers etcQuote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
to remain in p1 if you are p1 this year YOU MUST APPLY and be turned down. In the past (before 99z) guys would apply to an obscure or impossible to draw WMU. But sometimes it would backfire and they got a tag. OOPS! Then along came 99z. 99z guarantees that you remain in p1 for the following year and if you're in p2 then you will advance to p1 the following year.
word of caution. if you apply to 99z (playing the game as we all do) and are still going this year - understand this - you will not be eligible for a tag if surplus is declared! you are ineligible to receive a surplus tag.
We got 16 guys and should draw our tags. I think we're going up with 10.
[QUOTE=SK33T3R;899317
word of caution. if you apply to 99z (playing the game as we all do) and are still going this year - understand this - you will not be eligible for a tag if surplus is declared! you are ineligible to receive a surplus tag.[/QUOTE]
That is true, happened to one our guys 3 or 4 years ago. So here's the scenario that I'm curious about, this year
me- pool 1, 3 years without drawing
Darrel- pool 1, 3 years without drawing
Doug- pool 1, 3 years without drawing
Darrel and myself apply to whatever wmu we choose, and Doug applies to wmu 99z this year. Darrel draws the tag this year. So next year
me- pool 1, 4 years without drawing
Darrel- pool 2
Doug- pool 1, ???
Does Anybody know if applying in wmu 99z count as a year without drawing, since your not technically applying for a tag, but only to keep your pool status for the following year?? or does it count as a year, that you've applied and failed to be succesful? Hence Doug would be 4 years without drawing, the same as me.
99z is ok for those who can't hunt this year. But I hope nobody is just using it in hopes of keeping status until a preferred wmu has lower group size numbers.. Can anyone remember the last time there was a real drop in guaranteed group size? With the direction things are heading it doesn't seem very realistic...
99z was created so you keep your pool 1status. It doesn't matter how many unsuccessful years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swamp donk
Finally a good thinking .......in the right direction ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishy Wishy
SWAMP...Quote:
Originally Posted by Swamp donk
The important number is the yr you had a tag issued through the draw process. bull or cow gun or bow
Swamp- last tag 2011
Darrel- 2011
Doug- 2011
so if this yr Swamp and Darrel apply as a group of 2. since both are p1 2011 50/50 chance of who gets it
---the guy that comes in 2nd will be the transfer recipient if needed.
Doug will be 99z and will stay in p1 with his original 2011 status.
Well what happens if the guy who draws the tag doesn't go?Quote:
Originally Posted by Obi-wanShinobi
If you applied as a group, the tag can be transferred to the alternative whose number is printed on the tag.Quote:
Originally Posted by rippin_355
Oh right!Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
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Originally Posted by jaycee
One of the benefits of applying as a group rather than individuals - being able to transfer the tag.Quote:
Originally Posted by rippin_355
good point but the tansfer will go to the next person in the group that has gone the longest since his/her last tag.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
That is right, but that alternative persons number is printed "on the tag".Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
YOU ARE CORRECT jaycee! But the font is very small and you need to look for it!Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
You'd think they would make the font huge and encourage transfers ..extra $10 y'know!