Alright so I'm trying to decide between a hha optimizer lite and a Archer XTreme Primal X5 5 Pin .019 if their is a difference im always after the tightest possible groups at any range
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Alright so I'm trying to decide between a hha optimizer lite and a Archer XTreme Primal X5 5 Pin .019 if their is a difference im always after the tightest possible groups at any range
Olympic archers use single pin. Once you start single you will never go back to a multi pin.
I'm sorry.
But I'm assuming you're bowhunting, since this is the bowhunting section...
Therefore, I would suggest anything BUT a single pin..
If you're doing 3d shoots, and fixed shooting events, then definitely single pin...
I have never target shot, strictly hunting. Can't beat a single pin.
Interesting..I was contemplating the same thing, and had a friend convince me otherwise.
Glad he did.
You see, my treestands are typically at the edge of the bush, facing field and bush boundaries. When a dear appears, out of the tree or bush line, I've got my bow up ready to draw at wherever he/she may be going to/from..
Having the multiple pins would be priceless, since adjusting yardages during animal movement would be a hinderance...
However, that being said.
If you've got a bear bait, or if you're nailing turkeys within 10-20 yards, then maybe single pin would be better..
As for the Op, I'd suggest you let us know what exactly your intentions are...
There's a tool in the toolbox for every encounter.
single pin all the way
With today's flat shooting bows you can set a single pin at 25 yds and be within the kill zone from 15 to 30 yds. If you ever used one you would see adjusting the yardage takes less effort than attaching a release. If your target is further than 30 yds you likely have time to slide the sight easily. I lazer points of reference around my stand and then set the pin. Holding a bit over or under if needed becomes instinctive and you don't have the clutter of multiple pins. I don't know anybody who has ever gone back to multi pins after using a good single. But hey, different strokes.....
I've use both and liked them both but my current setup lends its self better to a multi pin sight due to arrow drop from shooting a 485grn arrow at 260fps arrow drop is enough to make judging from 15-30 yards difficult
Dan
So I was asked for more info on my shooting I shoot 3d in my backyard multiple times a week I hunt deer and turkey mostly from a blind but planning on some tree stands my bow is a bear attitude with a qad rest and vapors rail strings
I only use 3 pins 20'30 and40 I put the other two out of the way
That's my current setup but my pins are .29's hence the need for a change and I find myself trying for longer distances that's why I'm looking for a 5 pin or single pin
Once that animal comes out, your heart pumps, you decide whether it's 30 or 40 yards, draw back and choose the correct pin, you won't notice any other obstructions...
I won't argue against a single pin, but i can definitely tell you that all potential distractions of pins go away in a real hunt scenario..
I WOULD however, suggest, if you're shooting paper targets, not to use the green pin as your GOTO colour..Green pin on yellow ten is annoying..
IF YOU HAVE PERFECT VISION THEN DO WHAT YOU WANT. BUT IF NOT AND AS YOU AGE INTO READING GLASSES, THOSE MULTI PINS ON A FAST BOW ARE PRETTY CLOSE TOGETHER AND THEY ALL JUST SEEM TO MELD TOGETHER INTO ONE LARGE PIN (OOPS)
It took me a few SNAFU'S before I went to a single pin and all returned to normal. Just an FYI from a long time archer.
Single pin.
The reason is that with today's modern and very fast bows, the 5 pins on a multiple pin target will be close together, obscuring a good part of the target. With a single pin this does not happen; also you do not pick the wrong pin by mistake.
The downside is that you need to adjust it for different distances and the movement of doing so may spook the game, but within the regular "kill zone" of 0 to 30 yards there is no need to adjust it since there is very little drop, so set it at 20 yards and it will be good for the entire range.
for longer shots (which you should not do unless you are very comfortable with this) you will have time to adjust your single pin sight as the game is further away and will not see you, especially if you are in a tree stand or blind.
The IQ bowsight with retina lock is really amazing. It will instantly tell you if you are out of form for any reason. Nerves, cold, extra layers, angles anything can alter your form and accuracy. If you go with a five pin, you don't have to use 5 pins. Use one if you wish, but you can decide what is best for you.
Thanks for the info I think I'm going with the single pin i think it will work best for me
Well the sight came in looks great sent the bow in to have the sight installed and peep straightened out also getting all my arrows reflected with flex fletching
Which HHA did you go with?
Hha ol-5519 this thing is bright got it mostly sighted in got as far as figuring out what tape to use other than that not much shooting I will tell you one think I couldn't shoot 60 yards before this sight now I can shoot loose groups
Good choice. The 55 series HHA's are super bright. Getting sighted in pretty easy too. Best to do with 20 and 60 to find the right tape.
I never bothered with the printed tapes. Just made my own.
I did the 20-60 but I need the change the peep 1/4 is way too big going to get a 3/16 today