This is a novel way of getting the point across and I also bet he shat himself.
https://youtu.be/D7pCILPInb4
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This is a novel way of getting the point across and I also bet he shat himself.
https://youtu.be/D7pCILPInb4
What was it?
The video description said it was paint.
Maybe one of those paint grenades used in paintball.
warning do not try that here. Although it serves trespassers right I'm sure the land owner would be charged with some kind of mischief or greater charge. All we can do is report report report
LOL that was awesome and well deserved. Too bad bad it wasn't a couple of cans of pig manure exploding all over him from every angle.
As a landowner though....how badly could you be held if you setup a paintball trap on your land ??Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
What's buddy going to say?
"I trespassed and got covered in paint?"
All I'm saying is if we were paintballing and forgot to remove a paintball trap...[emoji12]
I'm sure a good lawyer can argue legal and civil liability. Its amazing what they get for slip and falls just imagine what they'll get for intentionally or accidentally setting an explosive device.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Killington
OK,so,the trespasser gets a ticket and YOU get charged under Sect 247 Criminal Code. You need to read it because it's a serious charge to get busted for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Killington
I was waiting to see who was going to reference sect. 247 - well done trimmer ;)
Highly illegal and suuuuuuper dangerous.
But hilarious !
Amazing ! I was waiting too ! What are the essential elements to prove in 247 Buzz?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Killington
Basically causing harm by intentionally setting traps
247(a) covers it well. Its a severe pecker slap
"...with intent to cause death or bodily harm to a person, whether ascertained or not,
(a) sets or places a trap, device or other thing that is likely to cause death or bodily harm to a person; or
(b) being in occupation or possession of a place, knowingly permits such a trap, device or other thing to remain in that place.
Intentionally Sets or places a trap - is the big key here.
Could you imagine if that guy in the video was blinded following that paint to the face?
I hate it when the damn kids in the area set these things off!!!
When you are trained to read law, words have meaning.
Like "intent"
Like death or bodily harm
Were you waiting for that Buzz?
"Bodily harm" can be anything from a fat lip to damn near killing someone. That's what makes this section so all-encompassing,almost like "mischief",anything from innocent tom-foolery to attempt murder.
Huh ????? You are kidding ..... right !Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Well it is this - "any hurt or injury to a person that interferes with the health or comfort of the person and that is more than merely transient or trifling in nature".Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
And from there let the games begin.
Towards the end of my law enforcement career,one of my last incidents was a spouse trying to burn the ex's car by getting his neighbor to lend him a gallon of gas. The charge was "Conspiracy to commit an indictable offense-mischief" and "Conspiracy to commit--arson". The Crown got him on both charges. He did 8 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Ok, so there is obviously more to that scenario to support a conspiracy. Your definition of bodily harm is a bit off !Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
OK,if you punch somebody in the yap and split a lip,knock out a tooth or some such,that's bodily harm. It sure ramps up a simple assault in a hurry,doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
So now it's knocking out teeth.....See post 19. That's what BH is....Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Let's not hijack this thread. PM sent.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Many years ago just outside of Milton Ontario my two cousins(brothers) and a friend fished a pond for many years that was on private property. Signs had been posted private property and no trespassing. They had never seen anyone over the years on the property and continued to ignore the signs and go fishing. The wealthy land owner happened to be patrolling his land and in the distance noticed my two cousin and the friend. The three trespassers my cousins and the friend also saw the land owner and decided it was best to leave and pack up. The land owner started shooting at them hitting my one cousin in the side while more bullets whizzed by the other two men head. They dragged my cousin to the car still alive and rushed him to the hospital where he died. The wealthy land owner got off with a slap on the wrist. Justice in its finest form and all true. I was 13 years old at the time and will never forget how Canadian law screwed over my entire family .
Hey I'm not a lawyer and I knew this was trouble. 3 pages already of dedate just imagine what a legal beagle could do. Even if you put aside if its legal or not I would be concerned with the legal cost of defense. If there is one thing I've learned from watching The Peoples court self help is never rewarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Killington
you have to be carefull around the farms down here as pot growers like leaving booby traps on trails going to the bush I have found a few over the years the old 12g shell set in a rat trap with fish line across the trail .thy had taken the shot out of the round so it would be a hell of a boom but that's it ,,D
If they are carrying a gun.. they are not trespassers! They are now poachers as far as I am concerned! They are taking game illegally from my land whether it is in season or out.
Now which conviction would stick in court and which carries the heavier penalty?
Dick
yes but its still cutting your nose off to spite your face. What's the other one... oh ya 2 wrongs don't make a right. You're into a needless legal battle that you'll have to defend which cost money. money better spent on surveillance and reporting to the proper authority.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDH
Interesting. Anything on the web about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
I have looked many times over years but came up with 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
Those are rinky-dink provincial offences. Setting traps is a criminal code matter with significant civil liability -- liability your insurance company won't cover, as it is created by your deliberate, criminal act.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDH
You can pretty much file setting traps of any kind under Ideas, Bad, Best Avoided.
Which newspaper would it have been in?Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
It should be easy to find this story with a Yahoo! or Google search. In what year did this occur? I can't imagine a murder being committed without the press being all over it,especially in the area of the GeeTeeYay.Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
I checked a Milton Ontario newspaper called the Champion archive yesterday evening but couldn't find anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
I was at a family get together yesterday afternoon and my older sister seems to think it happened in 1978 or 1979. PM sent with more info.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
I just found the article in the the Canadian Champion archive May 14 1980 front page. The reason I couldn't find it was because my uncle changed the spelling of his last name when he immigrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
I'd post signs on my property like this one...
Far more effective than lame old "NO TRESPASSING" notices...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psa017p4nw.jpg
Thanks yellow dog. Holy crap what a farce ! Almost worse than a recent ruling where a bow hunter was murdered from 300 yards because the killer said he thought it was a deer !Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
I guess if you are the right person and say the right things trespassers are fair game ! :whacked:
This is a pdf of the trial results for the shooter. Very interesting.
http://images.ourontario.ca/Partners...547pf_0345.pdf
Oh yes and they made the shooter look like the victim in this case. If you were to hear my aunt and uncles version of what went on in the court room it would change your mind of the Canadian Justice system. Many people were upset in the community for years to come and came to the same conclusion. Reading those newspaper articles brought back a lot of bitter memories because of the outcome.
I can't imagine this happening,yet,it did,quite clearly. Not long ago,right here in Durham Region,I had a work colleague that was fired at while fishing while wading in a creek that ran between two farms. The farmer ordered him off the property at gun point and held him until the Police arrived. He was given a $50 ticket and the farmer wasn't questioned. A police officer said "You can put that away,now." Other than that,nothing else was said. Maybe,your case has set a case-law precedent along with many others that have cropped up over the years. Trespassers need to tread lightly. Searching Canadian case law may be well worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
I hope it wasn't the case that set the precedent but you may be right. I may talk this over with my two nephews and niece who are young OPP officers and City of Windsor Police Officer. My one nephew was studying to be a lawyer before he made the career change to OPP. He may be able to dig up some information for me for piece of mind. But then again the shooter has to live with himself if he's still alive.
Was this not closer to Georgetown?? Like 17th side road and 6Th lineQuote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
remember this story :
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...ideo-1.2577303Quote:
Deryl Ring, the man who confronted the snowmobilers with a gun that day, is an alpaca farmer who lives in the area. He said the snowmobilers crossed through his land while they were riding, stressing out his prize-winning animals.
So he got in his truck and caught up with them on his neighbour's property to confront them.
(good Video for the court )
Not sure if we ever posted the sentence he received;
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...lers-1.2963087Quote:
Deryl Ring received a conditional discharge and 50 hours of community service for a confrontation with snowmobilers last year.
Deryl Ring arrives at court this morning. (CBC)
The 62-year-old pleaded guilty to two charges — mischief and assault while in possession of a weapon. Ring must also hand over his firearms for a year. It was a joint submission from defence and the Crown. The conditional discharge will be removed from his criminal record in three years if conditions are met.
I am not really sure but I do think one of the newspaper articles I came across mentions the location .Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodbender
I was 12 at the time used to fish the creeks in that area I remeber the story vagly just remember my grandparents wouldn't drop me off in that area to fish after thatQuote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
That would of definitely changed things for sure especially during those early years (70's & 80's)when you really didn't have to worry about where you could fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodbender
If it was posted then you stay out then or now my great uncle owned prime property on the saugeen in Flesherton he patroled with a shot gun back then never had to use itQuote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
Don't forget there are unstable, low functioning, drugged-out people everywhere not just in urban areas. You maybe the person trespassing and you maybe assuming all you're going to get is a warning by the landowner. In asking for permission for turkey hunting I encountered people with all kinds of obvious issues and I really wouldn't want to be caught trespassing by these individuals. They care very little about the law as we know it. I always assume the best in people and I am rarely disappointed but I now realize I might be naive. There problem gets much worse around here during the deer season. Trespassing on to farms that have been traditional hunting areas will not be tolerated. Hell some of these individuals have divs on Crown Land. Dan O.