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May 19th, 2015, 11:38 AM
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Went out this morning had a tom henned up wouldn't come to my calls. Kept stalking him and waited it out. Finally the hens went and nested and he started gobbling like mad. I called to him and he came running thru the bush right to me.. It pays to be patient. It was a lot of fun and really worth it. Got a nice tom. I Attachment 29717 Attachment 29718
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May 19th, 2015, 06:17 PM
fratri

It looks like it was nice, close and personal.....
congratulations of the success
May 19th, 2015, 06:26 PM
ghost1324

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It looks like it was nice, close and personal.....
congratulations of the success

Thanks it was. Very tricky bird my father in law has been trying to get it since the seasoned opened. Lol
May 20th, 2015, 09:58 AM
Dythbringer

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Originally Posted by ghost1324

Went out this morning had a tom henned up wouldn't come to my calls. Kept stalking him and waited it out. Finally the hens went and nested and he started gobbling like mad. I called to him and he came running thru the bush right to me.. It pays to be patient. It was a lot of fun and really worth it. Got a nice tom. I Attachment 29717 Attachment 29718
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I seem to recall from my turkey course stalking turkeys is incredibly dangerous.
May 20th, 2015, 10:05 AM
Fox

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

I seem to recall from my turkey course stalking turkeys is incredibly dangerous.

Walking through the woods is no different.

If you plan on crawling with a fan of a turkey at your head and gobbling as you go I can see it but this is one part of the course that seemed odd to me.

Why not move closer to a bird? That is how most people get later season birds to come in, have the call change location and move closer.
May 20th, 2015, 10:13 AM
werner.reiche

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Originally Posted by Fox

Walking through the woods is no different.

If you plan on crawling with a fan of a turkey at your head and gobbling as you go I can see it but this is one part of the course that seemed odd to me.

Why not move closer to a bird? That is how most people get later season birds to come in, have the call change location and move closer.

When I took the course (1992), no one was sneaking up on turkey's with fans. The danger we were told was that if you sneaked up on a decoy and shot at it, you could hit the hunter sitting hidden behind the decoy. I don't think that's a real risk...turkeys move quite a bit - so unless a guys got a mechanical decoy....Still, though, there always seems to be a few guys at the room temperature end of the IQ scale that this could be a problem for.

One of the basic premises (from a safety perspective) behind allowing camouflaged hunter wear is the assumption that camo'd hunters will not be moving about the bush. Stalking while camo'd undermines this.
May 20th, 2015, 10:28 AM
Fox

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When I took the course (1992), no one was sneaking up on turkey's with fans. The danger we were told was that if you sneaked up on a decoy and shot at it, you could hit the hunter sitting hidden behind the decoy. I don't think that's a real risk...turkeys move quite a bit - so unless a guys got a mechanical decoy....Still, though, there always seems to be a few guys at the room temperature end of the IQ scale that this could be a problem for.

One of the basic premises (from a safety perspective) behind allowing camouflaged hunter wear is the assumption that camo'd hunters will not be moving about the bush. Stalking while camo'd undermines this.

I get where you are coming from, but it goes against the being sure of your target and what is beyond it.

Why not walk around the bush in camo?

The justification for this portion of the course is no different than hunting with a bow during any small game hunting season or waterfowl along a marsh during a gun hunt for big game. The thing is that there is potential for someone to be in the bush and not in full camp during any hunt, be sure of what you are shooting at and what is beyond it.

I keep thinking about the Americans who used to go up to Kapuskasing and take "sound shots", scares the crap out of me but the reality is that when hunting there may be someone you don't know about in the area and when walking someone may be hunting.
May 20th, 2015, 10:30 AM
Dythbringer

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Originally Posted by Fox

Walking through the woods is no different.

If you plan on crawling with a fan of a turkey at your head and gobbling as you go I can see it but this is one part of the course that seemed odd to me.

Why not move closer to a bird? That is how most people get later season birds to come in, have the call change location and move closer.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

When I took the course (1992), no one was sneaking up on turkey's with fans. The danger we were told was that if you sneaked up on a decoy and shot at it, you could hit the hunter sitting hidden behind the decoy. I don't think that's a real risk...turkeys move quite a bit - so unless a guys got a mechanical decoy....Still, though, there always seems to be a few guys at the room temperature end of the IQ scale that this could be a problem for.

One of the basic premises (from a safety perspective) behind allowing camouflaged hunter wear is the assumption that camo'd hunters will not be moving about the bush. Stalking while camo'd undermines this.

When I took the course, there was a scenario where a hunter was stalking a group of "turkeys" and was shot because the turkeys he thought were real were decoys and the hunter shot at a sound. But werner's example is excellent as well.

Fox, I never said it was illegal to do, just dangerous. I was also told at the turkey course, if you are moving positions to make yourself visible in some way (most turkey vests have an orange flag on them for instance).

Dyth
May 20th, 2015, 10:49 AM
Fox

Great looking bird, way to get into a position to get one and do it safely.
May 20th, 2015, 11:08 AM
Dythbringer

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Originally Posted by Fox

I get where you are coming from, but it goes against the being sure of your target and what is beyond it.

Why not walk around the bush in camo?

The justification for this portion of the course is no different than hunting with a bow during any small game hunting season or waterfowl along a marsh during a gun hunt for big game. The thing is that there is potential for someone to be in the bush and not in full camp during any hunt, be sure of what you are shooting at and what is beyond it.

I keep thinking about the Americans who used to go up to Kapuskasing and take "sound shots", scares the crap out of me but the reality is that when hunting there may be someone you don't know about in the area and when walking someone may be hunting.

Stalking a quarry is much different than simply walking around the woods.

Fox in your examples both sets of hunters aren't going for the same species so in theory the interaction between two groups should be low. However, interactions can and do happen. Sprite can attest to this as it happened to him while waterfowling (http://www.oodmag.com/community/show...ht=shot+sprite).

I know I am extremely careful when out hunting and follow safe gun procedures but I also know that not everyone out there does. By stalking a quarry (stalking isn't simply walking through the forest), hunters in camouflage are putting themselves at the mercy of an unknown person who has a firearm who may not have the same patience as I do when it comes to target recognition.
May 20th, 2015, 11:14 AM
mr meat

Congrats on the bird!
May 20th, 2015, 12:12 PM
werner.reiche

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Originally Posted by Fox

I get where you are coming from, but it goes against the being sure of your target and what is beyond it.

Why not walk around the bush in camo?

The justification for this portion of the course is no different than hunting with a bow during any small game hunting season or waterfowl along a marsh during a gun hunt for big game. The thing is that there is potential for someone to be in the bush and not in full camp during any hunt, be sure of what you are shooting at and what is beyond it.

I keep thinking about the Americans who used to go up to Kapuskasing and take "sound shots", scares the crap out of me but the reality is that when hunting there may be someone you don't know about in the area and when walking someone may be hunting.

Well, I know we are supposed to be sure of our targets....but there are always some out there - see my comment about room temperature IQs.
May 20th, 2015, 02:15 PM
ghost1324

I was on my father in laws Land. I hunt all private property. Not crown Didn't think this was going to turn into a turkey course. Would I do that on crown land no. Why everything always have to turn into a debate. Lol.
May 21st, 2015, 06:19 AM
sgb

Well done Ghost!!
May 22nd, 2015, 09:10 AM
Matty88

Congratulations, beautiful bird. I had just got my first bird and probably only bird for the season last weekend.
May 22nd, 2015, 09:17 AM
ghost1324

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Congratulations, beautiful bird. I had just got my first bird and probably only bird for the season last weekend.

Congrats nice bird. Awesome feeling to get your first bird. It's my old mans first year hunting. He got his first this season to. Had smile ear to ear. But then again so did I. Ha ha ha. I am going to go out a few more times with him just to call and carry things for him.