If you had to choose

between Tom Mulcair or Justin Trudeau? Which would you pick? At this point it is looking quite possible that Harper has gone passed his best before date. 2/3 of Canadians want change so the odds of him being able to pull off a majority win are pretty low. I think the most likely outcome is a minority at best and then he will be taken out at the first confidence vote. So, if you had to pick between the other 2 which would it be? I think Mulcair is as greasy as a politician gets and is a team jumper already. But I also consider him to be quite intelligent ( even if I disagree on many of his beliefs). Trudeau has steadily lost ground once the initial honeymoon period was over. People loved the man until he started speaking. He is proving to be nothing but a good looking, well connected spokesman. Mulcair is sharp as a knife and virtually never loses an argument. I think he will leave JT a quivering, trembling mess in the debates. My problem with Mulcair is the NDP record. Take for example Premier Notley in Alberta. She appointed as the chief of staff for the Natural Resources ministry a Toronto anti oil sands activist. In fact she hired a bunch of activists who aren't even Albertans! Will Mulcair slant policy to be destructive to the oil sands and the massive economic benefit Canadians get from it? In the end Trudeau isn't the guy who makes up policy. He isn't bright enough so you would be voting for his handlers really, he's never going to be any more than a storefront. Not sure who I would choose between these two choices?

I'd go with Mulcair way ahead of Trudeau. If Mulcair were PM, he's got the smarts to bend to the center to do what it takes to hold onto power and would likely provide a reasonable centrist government.

Trudeau is an idiot. If his last name wasn't "Trudeau" he'd still be an unknown drama teacher. No telling what stupidity we'd be up to, particularly when Ontario is also being governed by idiots.

Mulcair by a country mile. Trudeau keeps falling in the party polls like rock. People are slowly seeing through his ineptitude and he's beginning to look more like a Michael Ignatieff type every day. When we get down to the wire,though,after Canadians have examined NDP party policies,I think they'll be afraid,very afraid of ultra left wing politics,dogma and party policies. My prediction is a an razor thin Conservative majority.

That is not funny.

How about this one "Would you like to be shot in the right or left side of your head, when we kill you?"

Mulcair. Only because I have an idea of some of the people that JT has surrounded himself with and am not impressed. Even with the Harper government we have always heard rumblings about the (non-elected) power in the PMO. My point? Trudeau is a lightweight and seems easily manipulated, Mulcair does not come across as someone easy to bullshyte.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

That is not funny.

How about this one "Would you like to be shot in the right or left side of your head, when we kill you?"

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This ^^^^^^^^ . I am still voting Conservative of course but would pick Mulcair if given no other choice.

I would choose Mulcair. The thought of Trudough representing us on the world stage scares me. The day after a JT win the Russians and Chinese will be setting up oil rigs in our Arctic territory. Can you imagine JT at a G7 meeting?

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Originally Posted by terrym

I would choose Mulcair. The thought of Trudough representing us on the world stage scares me. The day after a JT win the Russians and Chinese will be setting up oil rigs in our Arctic territory. Can you imagine JT at a G7 meeting?

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Wow!!! I was just thinking the exact same thing !!! Could any world leader take JT seriously ??? Would be embarrassing for us.

Iggy and Dion were both stars in comparison to JT.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

I'd go with Mulcair way ahead of Trudeau. If Mulcair were PM, he's got the smarts to bend to the center to do what it takes to hold onto power and would likely provide a reasonable centrist government.

Trudeau is an idiot. If his last name wasn't "Trudeau" he'd still be an unknown drama teacher. No telling what stupidity we'd be up to, particularly when Ontario is also being governed by idiots.

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Werner, I would agree with you 100 percent on this one. Could we have a third choice? Maybe a billy goat or a pig!! Either might get more votes than Truedope lmao.

I just couldn't bring myself to vote for either of them. The hair gel kid isn't even on my radar and Mulcair is a pompous *rick. He has to be one of the most negative people in politics and spends most of his time yelling and blaming others. I think it's a habit he is not able to break and will do more harm to this country than good. Harper all the way.

I also think the leaders of the world would not want anything to do with Mulcair and avoid him like the plague. I cannot see the President of the United States getting along with him at all !!! Angry white man pointing his finger at everyone as a Prime Minister reminds me of someone from the past . Green Party is starting to sound good if i had to choose. lol

In the Liberal party it isn't only Trudough who's dumb as a post. Don't forget those Liberals who voted him in in the first place. I can't imagine any one of them carrying the Canadian gov't to anywhere but the nearest landfill site.
I'd have to go with Mulcair even though I can't stand the guy.

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In the Liberal party it isn't only Trudough who's dumb as a post. Don't forget those Liberals who voted him in in the first place. I can't imagine any one of them carrying the Canadian gov't to anywhere but the nearest landfill site.
I'd have to go with Mulcair even though I can't stand the guy.

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Yup. They chose that dimwit over "Marc Garneau" !!!!

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Originally Posted by terrym

Yup. They chose that dimwit over "Marc Garneau" !!!!

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I believe it was fixed , the old boys in the back room thought it best to go with the shiny pony and a name over someone who actually accomplished things in life. Remember Garneau dropped out of the race and threw his support behind the boy blunder, I am sure he was pushed.

But he's so cute.:joker:

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But he's so cute.:joker:

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So is my dog. Other than him Licking his privates I guess he isn't that different somebody has to tell him what to do and earn money for food.

Let's see.... son of the worst, most divisive, most dictator loving PM I can think who lived on a trust fund his whole life and couldn't hack it as a drama teacher...

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a guaranteed tax increase, goodbye firearms, huge national debt....

what about the green party....??? never mind, same as NDP in policies without any common sense


I would have to say Muclair of the two, realities would sink into his head, Trudeau admits illegal drug use and I think it has impaired his ability to recognize reality and accept responsibility... and would probably open dialogue, trade and boarders to North Korea...a strong leftist dictator...UN, the 250,000 in labour camps, nukes etc. be damned.... no Mulcair there would atleast be a hope for some common sense now and again.

trudeau cause the ontario liberals are doing a bang up job:silly:

They may have wanted a shiny pony but they really ended up with a horses' a. .!

Ken! I'm shocked! :)

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They may have wanted a shiny pony but they really ended up with a horses' a. .!

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Yup, they sure enough did indeed , for sure. Even though I am not a fan of " Angry Tom" , or his party's principle, he is far more articulate and versed than Truedope can ever hope to be. Tom is a little crass, pointed and argumentative but at least he has his own set of principles and a sense of the direction he wants to achieve for him and his party. Justy baby on the other hand is like an " oily " , " slimy " fish out of water, flipping, flopping and gasping for a much needed breath of fresh new air. It absolutely sends chills up and down my spine to even think about him representing Canada on the world stage. What country would even think of taking him seriously ? Conversely, how many countries would line up to take advantage of the want to be commie loving dictator?? I think I will stick with Stevie, thank you very much!!!

To give you an idea of what to expect from an NDP gov't..

Alberta... Speech from the throne....Hiked taxes for high income, corporations, "environmental"/"sustainable" energy and carbon taxes and eliminate cars from our cities, increases to minimum wage... .
http://www.therebel.media/here_are_t...st_un_albertan

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Originally Posted by mosquito

To give you an idea of what to expect from an NDP gov't..

Alberta... Speech from the throne....Hiked taxes for high income, corporations, "environmental"/"sustainable" energy and carbon taxes and eliminate cars from our cities, increases to minimum wage... .
http://www.therebel.media/here_are_t...st_un_albertan

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This likely won't be listened to by the Ezra haters but it has a bunch of information many wouldn't know about.
http://www.therebel.media/here_are_t...st_un_albertan

Between the two. I'd take Mulcair.

He is intelligent, and is astute enough to know when something might have some very bad political implications. If he were given a Minority govt. IMHO, it wouldn't be nearly as bad as if Trudeau got in.

What scares me the most is that Trudeau is an idealogue of the worst kind. It is clear that he believes the fantasy ideals that are created in his world that has not one, but two purple moons.
The idea of a socialist NDP government gives me the shivers but I tend to agree that Muclair is the clear choice. Just don't let him do the math. He really needs an economist on his team to properly explain the tax structure and end the panacea of corporate taxes are not free money sources.