I am sure these are just farm escapes, but I hope they get captured or better before they find a place to hide.
http://barrie.ctvnews.ca/wild-boars-...east-1.2480588
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I am sure these are just farm escapes, but I hope they get captured or better before they find a place to hide.
http://barrie.ctvnews.ca/wild-boars-...east-1.2480588
yes I seen that on the news as well ,,thy sure look ugly ,,lol it will be very hard to find and catch them with all the corn standing that's for sure ,,I wonder were thy came from and how many there is ,,,we had a bison escape down here and it took a full year for use t round it up and it even made a trip in to town ,lol that was good for a hoot ,,,Dutch
I'll hide them under some lettuce and tomatoes.
I heard it was three little ones. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dutchhunter
With these past storms wonder if they had their homes blown down.Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow dog
Why do you have to bring the wolves into this?[emoji201]
wooooowhoooooooooooo something to hunt during the summer months!!!!!!!!!!
Probably charge $50 a boar
I've got a pit ready!Attachment 30305
This may very well be the first real sighting of Wild Boars in Ontario and if they're the real deal,serious trouble for farmers is definitely on the horizon.
Not the first sighting.
http://wildboarcanada.ca/#sthash.Bqidocov.KZk1dkuA.dpbs
No tusks....doubtful these are actual "wild boars".
Ever wonder what happens when people in the city who buy "pot bellied pigs" that turn out not to be miniature?
They drive North into the country and let them go.....just like the people that get murdered in the city.....Caledon sees a lot of bodies dumped too.
Could just be females, their tusks do not stick out like the males tusks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
There are lots of places that have Russian hogs on farms, there are also feral pigs that have gotten out. Any of these can start a population, they are designed for this type of climate.
I put the world "wild" in quotations when I made this post because I feel the same way. You can also see in those photos that at least one is female.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebulldog
I guess they could be some kind of city limit or safety concern, but I am wondering why none of these people didn't think to get out a gun.
Because maybe they don't own any or there is gun bylaw. They are not a danger for anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cintax
They are wild board but they might have been farmed.
I was thinking the same thing. Caledon East is mostly farms and large rural properties. BANG,BANG...free hams and bacon for the smoker. Y-U-U-M-M-M!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cintax
I prefaced my comment with that possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
And I disagree, wild pigs are a danger to all farmers in Ontario.
I was there not two weeks ago which is why I was surprised that no one took action.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Farmers won't disappear from it! Just like weather, and I would be more worry about that, it's one more thing they are going to deal with..... They have been all over Europe for centuries, and worst for the past 25 years on the western side, and farmers are not going that bad (I own a farm there and shot my share). I'm not saying they are not an issue, they are going to lose a bit of crops from them but the end customer (us) will pay for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cintax
I don't know however in the news clip MNR clearly states its the owners responsibility to capture or kill them.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Shoot eat and shut up.
really depends where you are and how much you depend on corn (crop or biomass) and what the habitat is in general. the problem is if there are lots of corn fields and they establish a decent population, there is no way you can keep numbers in check without serious night time hunting all year round.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
BTW feral and wild are two different things to me.
I bore d with this story.[emoji203]
Same here, but they are still the same species.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waftrudnir
A feral is a wild that became domesticated and then escape so is back to wild again...... the question is, how long does it take for a feral to become wild again?!
Feral could be worse, less fear of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
The really crazy part is that all of the "Wild Boar" in the southern states are not actually wild boar (Russian Boar). They are descendants of feral populations from the Spanish and European farmers that settled. Pigs are very adaptable, that is the problem here, they can and will build a population and by the time there are regular sightings they will already be established.
I'm no expert, but keep in mind they were domesticated 7000 years ago and selective breeding is an understatement in the context of industrial farming.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
I'd like to think it'll take more than just a few generations as some tend to say.
Definition of;fe·ral
ˈferəl,ˈfirəl/
adjective
adjective: feral
- (especially of an animal) in a wild state, especially after escape from captivity or domestication.
"a feral cat"
synonyms: wild, untamed, untamable, undomesticated, untrained "feral dogs"
Definition of :wild
[wahyld] /waɪld/
Spell Syllables
adjective, wilder, wildest. 1. living in a state of nature; not tamed or domesticated: a wild animal; wild geese.
2. growing or produced without cultivation or the care of humans, as plants, flowers, fruit, or honey:
Think itsQuote:
Originally Posted by seabast
Feral is a domestic pig (or any domesticated animal for that matter) that has escaped captivity and becomes reproducing in the wild.
Wild boar is a wild boar
In this case it seems to be a couple of feral wild boar.
Wild or domesticated.
Will they still taste the same?
The feral pig that I shot a number of years ago [escapee] tasted better than domestic, not as much fat on it and the pork chops were marbled more like beefsteak.Quote:
Originally Posted by RHYBAK
[QUOTE=Hunter John;912176]Shoot eat and shut up.[/QUOTE
well said.
New big game , wild boar season , tag going to be $ 50 , a piece no limit season open year around .
Outfitters going to have work ..... Driving the economy in ontario .... noting wrong with that ....
With the problem these will become, I'm sure hoping there will be a bounty on the Boar....the Hunters are doing to be doing the Ministry a HUGE favour removing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfoldivandor
Ding, ding, ding!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter John
As the legendary "Pigman" would say "shank'em"
Mostly true but outfitters with questionable ethics have also released Russian Boar in some areas of the southern US during the last 50 years so there are some Russian genetics mixed in here and there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
From what I read, they brought wild boar, not feral, in the early 1900's in game reserves for the purpose of hunting. They have been there for a very long time...Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
True, there are some, some escaped as well, but no true "Wild Boar" genetics in the southern States.Quote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
Take a look on youtube about wild boar drives in Eastern Europe, really cool.
The problem is how much damage they can do, feral or wild, it does not really matter.
Wild boar in captivity would not be considered wild after a generation or two. If these Russian wild boar got out or were released they would be feral pigs with wild boar genetics. This is not a whole lot different than having a Tamworth get our, they just look different.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
My question is why is MNRF not releasing the same notice to hunters that was sent last September for Eastern Ontario. No reason why you can't hunt them on a small game license. For you guys/gals living in the area it may be worth a call to find out if they will allow you to hunt them on your license.
http://www.oodmag.com/community/show...astern-Ontario
Click on the link below and select Escaped Wild Boar
http://www.prescott-russell.on.ca/en...vities/hunting
I'm in 62....haven't seen or heard about any.
The cost of a license needs to be $10 each with unlimited number of tags per hunter. That way,more Hogs will be taken because fees won't be exorbitant,more hunters will participate. Farmer's license should be free.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfoldivandor
Couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
However, and it's unlike me to go off on a tangent, but the current Govt. would see it as dollar signs that they aren't collecting.
The Wynne Government has not made farming and agriculture a priority. Those big tracts of cleared land are only good for ineffective wind farms......the good people of Ontario can get their groceries elsewhere.
My guess is after the flack everyone and any one got over the Newmarket black bear incident no one wants to do or say anything other than its the owners responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGearyFTE
I can only hope that Ont MNR take a look at how Manitoba handled the situation;
Read More; http://www.gov.mb.ca/conservation/wi..._at_large.htmlQuote:
Hunting Wild Boar
There have been numerous instances of people, pets and livestock being chased, harassed and even bitten by escaped wild boar, as well as, reports of property damage. In Manitoba, wild boar are private property like traditional livestock breeds and, under The Animal Liability Act can only be destroyed if injuring or attacking livestock. Since they are not native to Manitoba and not the property of the Crown, listing wild boar under The Wildlife Act eliminated the use of hunting seasons to control those found running at large. Due to concern for public safety and the protection of wildlife, wildlife habitat and public or private property, the Exotic Animals Regulation was recently amended to allow Manitoba residents to kill escaped wild boar.
The province was declared a Wild Boar Control Area in September 2001. The current province-wide declaration [PDF] permits a resident of Manitoba to hunt and kill escaped wild boar that are running at-large anywhere in Manitoba (excluding Riding Mountain and Wapusk National Parks), at any time of the year, as follows:
- On Crown land, except for a wildlife refuge or game bird refuge;
- In a provincial park, except in areas where all hunting is prohibited;
- In an ecological reserve with written authorization from the minister;
- On private land with the permission of the landowner or lawful occupant;
- In compliance with all big game hunting requirements, excluding those noted in the Declaration; and
- Within 7 days of killing a wild boar, the hunter must report the incident to Manitoba Conservation and Water Stewardship or Manitoba Agriculture Food and Rural Development.
A person hunting wild boar:
- does not require a licence, tag or permit
- can hunt 7 days a week
- is not limited to a bag or possession limit
- does not require a plug in their shotgun, and
- does not require hunter orange dress unless a big game season is open in the area where the hunting is taking place, and hunters are required to wear hunter orange in that big game season; and
A person hunting wild boar is restricted to the following equipment types:
- a centrefire rifle
- a 16 or 20 gauge shotgun firing slugs
- a 10 or 12 gauge shotgun firing slugs or OO Buck (or larger)
- a .45 caliber (or larger) muzzleloader firing a single projectile
- a long bow or recurve requiring not less than 40 pounds draw weight at 28 inches draw. Broadhead must be at least 7/8 inch in diameter, or
- a compound bow set at not less than 40 pounds peak draw weight at 28 inches draw. Broadhead must be at least 7/8 inch in diameter, or
- a crossbow requiring not less than 150 pounds draw weight and a bolt having a broadhead with a minimum 7/8 inch diameter
General Hunting Caution
Hunters are encouraged to exercise discretion when hunting in the vicinity of a wild boar farm to ensure that the wild boar being hunted are not recently escaped animals that the owner is trying to recapture.
"Does not require hunter orange dress"!!!!
Funny. My dad used to live in Manitoba at the end of the 80s. They basically did the same thing with rabbits. My first hunting experience was with them at 15....great times.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
i am pretty sure they already did make similar statements when there were sightings of them in eastern OntarioQuote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
http://www.ofah.org/2014/09/mnrf-aut...scott-russell/
Yes, but that was specific to Prescott Russel....they need to make it a province wide policy...Quote:
Originally Posted by B Wilson
You're not likely to see tags or licensing for wild boars because the last thing the MNR wants to do is to institutionalize hunting for them. The result of that, over time, is you get people advocating to conserve them. The MNR doesn't want them on the landscape at all.
The above is more than likely correct, that is the way the MNRF handles any escape deer species , "no license required shoot on sight ".Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
SOOOO?Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
Why was the cormorant protected - and still is - another invasive species!
FYI cormorants are not an invasive species. Native bird decimated once by human causes namely use of DDT protected as a recovering population only question is a what population is considering damaging to its environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
Yep! Wild Boar are like Bears. They can see bright color vividly and are considerably more cunning and nasty,although,it makes perfect sense to require Blaze Orange during big game seasons,only,the same as here in Ontario.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
Exactly,:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers
I seriously hope both these boars are killed very soon. A lot of bush land in Caledon that these boars could sneek around unseen. One is definitely female and if she gets breed that will be the start of an epidemic. I hope anyone that sees these boars shoots on sight. If you ever told a farmer that you seen a boar but did not shoot it, He'd probably cut your nuts out.
Look to be pretty tame judging by the pictures.....Hopefully someones pets and are dealt with sooner than later.
I catch a wild boar.. I'll turn it it into this..http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...f2f07f89dc.jpg
Bit of an update...seems they are vacationing in the area....Maybe a honeymoon for the new couple. Yup there looks to be at least one male and one female. I say at least because for every pig I have ever seen while hunting in Florida, there were more I did not. Out of a sounder of 20 to 30 pigs, you may only see a few.
http://barrie.ctvnews.ca/opp-receive...edon-1.2488364
Seems they have been making the news in a few places, and getting reported by a few papers.
http://barrie.ctvnews.ca/opp-receive...edon-1.2488364
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/09/02...rairie-problem
http://www.simcoe.com/opinion-story/...s-make-escape/
http://www.discover-southern-ontario...ke-simcoe.html
http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/05/03/...in-west-quebec
http://www.parrysound.com/news-story...ents-googling/