Anyone getting through?
First 13 mins nothing but busy and disconnects. Last 15 minutes all ring tones but no ones picking up...
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Anyone getting through?
First 13 mins nothing but busy and disconnects. Last 15 minutes all ring tones but no ones picking up...
I got in very quickly and got a cow tag!! Time to go buy a lottery ticket!
Lucky! Congrats. We have a bull, looking for a cowQuote:
Originally Posted by Hardrack
Our group is getting the exact same results as last year. I don't see any improvements...
Anyone else having luck?
No improvements, at the very least have a secondary line to get an update on the tags remaining. For all I know there's no more tags left in my area and I'm just waisting my time.....
check the online list, they are updating it on the hour. https://www.sse.gov.on.ca/sites/MNR-...rt_English.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by Roge
piece of crap system again this year.
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Originally Posted by blargon
Thanks for posting the list, saves me from calling. The phone system really is garbage
Thanks, well one improvement.
Ring ring ring... answer, Thank you for calling blah blah blah... press one for english....I press "1".... we are having technical difficulties please call back the number provided........................line dead......
Well I am glad I am not the only one that got that answer and the same situation. I got through at 7:12 to that message, hit 1 for English and then the deadline. I have been kicking my ever since for hitting one. Just got through again and this time stayed on the line same F&%*%( response. What a crap system............
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Originally Posted by Roge
same here and now I'm just get a straight technical difficulties message......BSQuote:
Originally Posted by Donnie7
I have now got the Welcome to the MNRF surplus tag blah blah blah - then a speil about English and French and then a please have out out doors card ready - then due to technical difficulties good bye.
Total BS
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Originally Posted by Roge
Question- If you do get a surplus tag, does your pool status change for next year?
No doesn't change your status for next year.
One of our group members managed to get through and got a surplus tag.(Yeah!!) How, I'll never know because the rest of us just managed to get the busy signal. The only saving grace is next year we should have enough people in pool 1 for the regular draw unless they change everything again. What a system. B525
I wasted 12 hours of my life last year. I will never get that time back. A lottery for the remaining tags would be far better, leaving it to chance would be far less frustrating. I would never attempt to get a surplus tag via this system ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is nice that they have a site now to advise what is left. Don't remember that last year.
Stuart how did you waste 12 hours of your life last year it was only open from 5:30 till 9pm (lol). You should have been calling this morning and tried to get a bull tag.....
LOL, some posts you just have to "let go"Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie7
15 minutes last year... I had 3 cell phones calling..
I GOT THROUGH IN THE FIRST 10 MINUTES AND GOT A COW!
What a relief! Now I can concentrate on hunting and not worry if I have cell or walkie talkie reception and getting charged for hunting without a tag blah blah blah.
I have no plans to use the cow tag. I will eat the tag before I eat a cow! 2 other members in my group also got through.
We commented over and over how this surplus system is run. I wonder if they'll answer the phone on wed during day 3 even if all the tags are gone.
I was fully expecting "Thank you for using the MNR Surplus Call In Service you will be charged $5 and will show on your credit card as "Liberal Party Donation" :-)
Shhhhhh, don't give them any ideas !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
I'm not one to judge as you're not doing anything illegal, I just don't necessarily understand some of your posts on here. Tag's are way way down which we all know, so much so that lots of guys have given up with moose over frustration in getting them. You have stated in other posts that you drew some tags and that you will be trying hard in the surplus to get more that you have no intention of using. I understand the reasoning but do you think it's right to be posting about the adult tags you have gotten and have no intention of using when other guys here have to give up their season because they didn't get any?Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
Again, I understand why you're doing it I just don't understand why you're talking about it...
I called nonstop for 3 hours straight. Got through 4 times only to get kicked out because of technical issues...I gave up after all the tags were sold out for our area. Thankfully someone in our group snagged a tag and we will be hunting this fall!
Just because you have a cow tag in your pocket doesn't mean you can shoot or hunt a bull if you are not in radio contact with the bull tag holder. You are either poaching or incredibly dumb. Or both.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
And thanks for taking 3 tags that nobody else can use.
Congrats on the tag. If you didn't have one going into the surplus, today is like Christmas ☺Quote:
Originally Posted by 4weight
The lucky guy said first round of drinks is on him when we get to camp! Lol
So, it's ok to grab moose tags that you know you will never use, just keep silent about it? Amazing...Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffBondar
Congrats on the tag.....you should be buying him a drink for getting the tag !!!!! LolQuote:
Originally Posted by 4weight
I bought the new atv this year so nobody will have to drag quarters out of the bush, I should be drinking for free the whole trip lol
Go ahead and read into whatever you like, even twist some words around... I said I understand why, I didn't say it's OK so go troll somewhere else. Perhaps you're doing the same thing....Quote:
Originally Posted by Vos
ROFLMAO!! Don't tell fishermccan. His head will explode.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
Where are the improvements? They make this 3 days long and the useable tags are all gone in an hour! What a joke! These tags should be awarded through the regular draw as an additional step. Most hunters who get these tags will never use them.
We didn't bother trying to call as we don't need the extra tags. Sucks for the groups that didn't draw and won't be going moose hunting this year.
I guess hoarding tags is a good way to get rid of competition :-)
Are the surplus tags for far northern WMU gun hunts or for archery seasons exclusively?
I'm in the group with 4weight. Our surplus tag was for a WMU N/W of Thunderbay. We were unsuccessful in the regular draw. Unlike others, we intend on using our tag.
Usually 21a.. and out there..Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
I knew if I said anything there would be flack!
No I am not incredibly dumb. No I am not poaching! I fully understand party hunting and communications and distance. BUT I did pay my $58 like the rest and I did NOT have a tag - now I do! What did I do wrong? Everyone is entitled to a tag and we all gambled the same gamble buying a tag and playing the DRAW game. Some get lucky, others manipulate the draw, others transfer and others get them in surplus. The way this entire bow hunt has been calf slashed will have every bow hunter looking over their shoulders for Mr CO. I hunt under 3 km from my partner but sometimes cell service is sketchy. Most times our 36 mile walkie talkies are sketchy. Depends on terrain, cloud cover etc. There's no way I wanted to walk out of the bush with Mr CO waiting and try to explain why at that particular spot I can't get a hold of my partner. To those who got tags - good luck - to those that did not - I feel for you all and wish everyone could go - and yes there have been many years I was on the outside looking in. But not this year. We're going to a unit that resembles a desert when it comes to moose. We got tags - so what? I think we're throwing away $9,000 for 9 guys _ so I hope I'm wrong. If it's anything like the last 2 yrs this will be my last time and I'll make tracks in some other province or state for something else. bears maybe for 3 weeks!
And lastly I will not shoot a cow. Maybe I did something good here and will protect and help a cow get through the year and maybe help return moose to their past #'s. It's not about the meat this time. I just don't want to be under the discretion of some CO and get a huge fine for illegally hunting moose because communications broke down. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
Dumb? I think I'm looking pretty smart now. Wish me luck and next year I will wish everyone else the same luck!
Again good luck to all!
This doesn't at all explain why you've applied and got so many cow tags you have no intention on using. It does nothing with regards to a CO, if you shoot a bull you need to be in communication with the bull tag holder, having a cow tag doesn't help you. In another thread you mentioned you were going after tags so there would be less hunters around you as your group was trying to accumulate as many cow tags as possible which would result in less guys getting them in that WMU.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
I guess I am judging here, not for my own well being, but for the number of groups that won't be moose hunting this year because of the excessive tags your group has that you plan on burning. If you planned on using them that's a whole different story.... I really feel bad for the guys that will be sitting at home this year.
I've heard of groups of people getting tags they had no intention of using, I've always assumed they were anti's, it never crossed my mind it would be fellow hunters...
Jeff
Have you ever hunted moose .. ?
Yes we got a couple LUCKY tags in the surplus - BUT there were almost 100 tags left over after the draw If you needed one of those so bad then you should have applied. even with leftovers from the northern draw there were still 100ish tags left. Anyone applying even solo in pool 2 cow have gotten a tag in the draw! Surplus is almost always left overs from the northern draw which is held after the MAIN draw that you and I would be in. There was only about 35ish tags in the entire northern draw. There was 100 tags left over. Obviously there was no desire for anyone to go there or apply in the WMU. So I got a tag that no-one else wanted originally!
We have 9 guys how the h#ll are 9 guys going to hunt within 5 km of the tag holder.
Ok! If it makes you feel better I will shoot a cow
Yes I have very successfully hunted moose, I have a 50" mount hanging on the wall. Our group has taken 10 in the last 5 years. We have a bull tag this year, I was hoping for a surplus cow to cover all possibilities. I'm overly excited just to be going.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
Your logic on surplus is not correct. Generally there are surplus tags because there were not enough Pool A groups applying for the guarantee.
You do realize that if you do not follow the rules regarding proximity of the tag holder you are illegal? I would not blatantly post my illegal intentions on a public forum. A cow tag does not extend your boundaries if you are shooting bulls..
Jeff
I too am overly excited about goin moosin!
But I'm not running anyone down with innuendo's and accusations and quoting legalities and backing them up with assumptions.
I wish you would stop assuming that I'm illegal! I know the rules better then most!
and you better go back and get someone in your group to explain how the draw really works! Guaranteed, large group allocation, then everyone is single and if they're in a group those members are removed. and then if there's any tags still left WHEW! then it goes to pool 2. yes you can still get a tag if you're in pool 2 in the draw. usually by this time the tags are exhausted. Then they conduct the northern draw and left overs from that draw are usually the bulk of the surplus. The unit I'm in had 100 tags because no one asked for them either as a first or second choice. Some were from the northern draw for sure but there was a lot from the main draw too! If you were hoping for a surplus cow in the same unit you got the bull in - maybe you should have applied for the cow.
Sooooo? Are we good now?
Where are you guys heading to? gun or bow?
We are fine. Like I originally said, I try not to judge, sometimes I do though. I'm sure you can also understand where I'm coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
The least amount of tags ever available causing some long standing traditions to be broken while fellow hunters are wasting them. Maybe where you're going (21a?) this will have little impact but chances are that others are doing the same thing where it might matter more. We have our bull so I'm not directly affected but I'm sure there will be a day with perhaps neither of us will get an adult tag and condemn guys abusing the system...
We did 13 for years but those tags are all dried up. Hit 16c last year and got our first skunk so this year we are trying something different and going to 18a for a gun bull. Last year I made over 1200 phone calls in 3 hours to get a surplus in 16c, this year they were gone in the first hour. A trend is developing that doesn't look good for anyone and every year going forward will likely get worse before it gets better.
Good luck with your hunt. I hope if you have an opportunity at a cow you take advantage of it....
Jeff
The 5 km rule and reliable communications is important with regards to moose hunting (deer and bear as well). If a group of 5 people go hunting for bull moose of which there is only 1 tag, all the hunters must be within the 5 km and have reliable communication. If not, the one's without the bull tag better not shoot a bull. It would be illegal. The reason.....there could be 2 to 5 bulls shot with only 1 tag and none of the other hunters know anything about it until they do get within communication range.
I hope you have a good hunt Skeeter but don't let the cow tags get you into possible trouble. I kinda side with Jeff on this one.
Not really, your logic is flawed. You say you won't shoot a cow, and your radios are crap , so you shouldn't be shooting a bull either. If you have a bull down and the CO shows up, your cow tag doesn't mean squat. Without good comms, you can't hunt a bull, let alone shoot one.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
There is a reason we are weighed down by so many rules, and it shows.
Congrats to all that get a surplus tag. I lucked out with a surplus cow tag. Be safe!
Happy hunting!Quote:
Originally Posted by Birds_Eye
All I got was endless ringing...what a farce.
I would agree. Even without the Cow tag,Skeeter,you still aren't breaking the law because party hunting for Moose is legal. Your cow tag means nothing,unless,of course you decide to take one,however,you've already stated that you wouldn't which is understandable that you don't wish to doom a calf or two (maybe). You and your crew MUST be sure you can contact each other effectively. That,in and of itself,is an offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by redd foxx
Sk33T3R did not apply for and get cow tags to protect them, he got more tags in order to have less pressure from other hunters as he stated in another thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Look at the money they saved by not having to pay overtime, now they can use that money on the Atlantic Salmon program
Geesh Jeff! You just don't give up at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffBondar
I had a meeting with my partner this morning and we decided I would bring an air horn just in case the walkie talkies have issues, we also called Bell to inquire if cell service in that area has improved. They told us last year that things were in the works to expand and improve service. We'll see. We won't know till we get there. My partner and I can hear each other calling when days are favorable - it is faint but I hear him and he really hears me because I can really blast it out there. Also he/me can jump on our ATV's and be in each others face in about 5 minutes. I know there is a 5% chance that even after all the stuff we're trying I might be (depending on the wind, barometric pressure, thunderstorm, etc) without communication for a span of 5 minutes or so.
We're trying our best here. I guess the only other thing I can do is give you my tags and I'll stay home.
How do you think that will work out.
Good luck on your groups quest for #11.
I too will be on my quest for my own #11 bull.
FOR THE RECORD! I can do whatever I want with my moose cow tag. I paid for it! IT'S MINE! ALL MINE! Shoot a cow or let her walk! starve a calf or save a calf. The decision is mine and not yours! I also have a choice to shoot a small buck, a big buck, a doe or a fawn. I also have 2 additional doe tags. So I guess I screwed every other hunter in Ontario because I got 2 additional doe tags for my WMU. Last season I got 2 does! That's all I needed. I had about 15 tags around me with guys begging for me to shoot one for them. I never did.
I try to limit my catch - not catch my limit!
Please find another horse to flog!
and of course as always - good luck this year!
I have read most of the posts here against Sk33ter and have to side with him and his decision. He is correct in how the draw has been run (right or wrong we can debate that all week). there were surplus tags both coming from the Northern draw and the fact that not all tags were allocated as there were not enough applicants. So he and his group decided that they would like some cow tags - that is fair - if they choose to use them or not once again their choice!
As for the party hunting rules - I thought in years past that you needed to possess the calf tag in order to be eligible to party hunt? Please correct me if I am wrong but I think that is where Sk33ter is coming from. He is bow hunting and did not get selected as the tag holder of the bull tags. Therefore, is he still technically allowed to be hunting? He will be in the bush during an open season without a valid tag, I can see where he would be nervous. The same thing will apply for anyone hunting the opener for rifle. I will be heading into the bush without a valid tag.
As for the communication thing, come on people we all know the rules on that. He did not say he was driving 20km from the bull tag holder just because he had a cow, if memory serves me correct he said he was within 3km. If you have spent enough time up north you know that the best walkie talkies are still crap in comparison to what they advertise and you could be sitting on your watch today talking to the tag holder and tomorrow the freakin clouds change and you can't hear him - its a fact.
Just my 2 cents....
Donnie
Good Luck with your hunt SK33T3R, let us know how you make out, hopefully some nice pics to go with it :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
In order to enter the Moose draw,you MUST buy a license first which comes with an automatic calf tag. This allows you to party hunt Moose even if you don't possess an adult tag. As long as a member of the GROUP has a tag,any member of the party may take an adult Moose in the WMU for which the tag was issued. That is the reason for close communication. The fear of being charged with hunting without a license is unfounded because you already have a license. Jumping on an ATV and heading off through the bush looking for the tag holder won't cut it. You will be open to charges. Using cell phones in the far north is a non-starter,too. There simply aren't enough towers. Accurate and powerful Walkie-Talkies are not that expensive (usually under $75) and can be bought anywhere and most don't require a license. All you need is accuracy up to about a mile to another unit and relay the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie7
Hmmmm like I mentioned we are all familiar with the rules of being within the distance and in communication, but apparently you wanted to reiterate it again. I also know that you receive your license when you enter the draw and generally a calf tag ( except certain wmu's) thanks for the refresher! What I was indicating is that your calf tag is not good for archery, are the CO's going to harass people? In the example that was. Used by original poster he is only 3km away from holder, well within legal hunting ( radio should work) but what happens if he has to travel in a loop12km to get back to spot. Bow incised while travelling, but now not in contact and he doesn't have a tag for an open season?Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
maybe instead of jumping all over everyone we should all stop and think of what he may have been trying to explain.
ps not shooting a cow is his choice, me I will shoot the cow...
Sorry if I gave the impression I was "jumping all over you". It wasn't my intention. I didn't realize from the post that it meant Archery hunting only. My point was that even though a calf tag can't be used because of the restriction,your license still allows you to hunt with a party. I really don't know what would happen if a hunter needed to travel that far to get the tag hoider and return to the site of the kill to tag the animal. I think a CO may have an issue with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie7
Being within the 5km and communications distance when hunting is one thing, but it's not uncommon to be a lot further away by road, when it comes to getting to the kill site. The way blocks are laid out, you could conceivably be within 1 km of the tag, but it could take you a half hour to get around to the kill site. Once you are travelling, you are not hunting, or at least that's what your answer should be. With the calf tag restrictions this year, it eliminates a lone Hunter without an adult tag, from hunting, other than within the party hunting rules. I can see where skeeter is coming from. I would hope that any CO worth his salt would take that into consideration.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Very interesting thread and thoughts. More rules regs and convolution every year it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
I could be wrong but I can foresee numerous charges or at least the potential for them during this falls moose hunt.
Are the new seasons, rules and regs purposely designed to make it harder to hunt legally? One would hope not but it somewhat appears that way. Harder to adhere to , numerous checks by C. O,s, and numerous fines this fall will further discourage already disgruntled hunters.
I suppose if everyone bought a bear tag this give them more freedom to be in the woods, without constantly looking over their shoulder! You could look at as a small insurance policy against larger fines possibly! Just a thought. More revenue also for our cash strapped government. Fifty thousand or so bear licenses.
Half glad I can't make it out this fall. Be interesting to see how it all plays out this fall. Good luck to all of you who got tags and I wish you all success.
I'm thankful that our area is still unrestricted for calf likely because it's only a six day hunt (WMU50),but,virtually no adult tags were issued for this area this year. I just hope it doesn't look like WalMart on Saturday afternoon in Oshawa from thousands of calf tag only hunters migrating from the north to the south. I don't think that was taken into consideration when the calf restrictions were added for other areas. It'll be like hunting in a war zone,very dangerous.
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Originally Posted by trimmer21
I seriously doubt the MNR thought about that idea and never considered people coming from the north. We don't have the calf restriction either, but the season is two weeks later than when we are going. We were fortunate enough to draw a Bull and Cow for 21a (this zone has been a war zone for the last number years). Not sure if it will be as busy this year or not - but either way there is certainly not an over abundance of moose. We just like the area we are in and have a decent setup.
So, correct me if I'm wrong,but if you have a calf tag and hunt in a group for a Bull the first 2 weeks of the hunt, you would have to be in close proximetry to the bull tag because there is no open season for calves so you would be hunting illegal, and you would be charged unless you had another tag even though you didn't want to use it
You are correct, unless you have a wolf tag, deer tag or bear tag. Of course, those seasons would have to be open in that area. Basically, with a closed calf season, and no adult validation, you cannot hunt moose unless it's within the party hunting rules. It begs the question if the MNRF have considered this eventuality ! Like someone previously posted, I can envision a lot of charges being laid this year, warranted or not !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali88
Nope! You already have a Moose license to hunt which comes with an automatic calf tag. Everyone who buys a license gets one. What you don't personally have is an adult tag endorsement. However,you may still party hunt as long as the party has at least one adult tag. That's where the 5KM communication rule comes in. Even though you only have a calf tag,you may shoot an adult Moose for which the tag has been issued,BUT,you MUST be able to quickly advise the tag holder that he/she needs to attend and have a sufficient means to advise every other member of the party that the adult tag is filled. Failure to meet those conditions can result in more than one adult Moose being taken by another party member,then watch the shyte hit the fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali88
Just as an aside,should that ever happen,always be sure to advise the OMNRF immediately and request a CO to attend. It means the difference between a simple ticket ($300) as opposed to them opening up a whole can of whup-a** if they have to investigate after the fact.
Trimmer: I think he is asking if hunting outside of the party hunting rules, with only a calf tag, which are not in season...would it be illegal. I suggest it is. You either need a valid game seal, or are party hunting. It would be no different than hunting moose or deer for that matter alone, once you have used your game seal, at least in my opinion!
Where he said "hunting illegal",in that aspect,wouldn't be illegal,at all. Once the tag is filled and they're still hunting,then,there'll definitely be a problem until the calf season opens is the way I understand it. If that's incorrect,then,I'm thorughly confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
You won't be the only one confused. With no calf season, you won't have a valid game seal, unless you have an adult validation. So essentially, you cannot hunt moose alone, during the closed calf season. You must have a valid game seal to hunt moose deer bear and wolves. Turkeys too but that's another thing... You would be restricted to party hunting only. I would go one step further and believe that if you were caught with a high powered rifle, without a valid game seal, not hunting in a party, you would have an awful problem as well. Unless you had a bear, deer or wolf seal....Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Correct, that's why it would make sense to me to get a cow tag even if you don't intend on using it, it would make you legal before the calf season opens, but then again a bear tag would have the same effect
I buy a Bear license every year,anyway,for no other reason than an insurance policy against any illegality using rifles other than .22's. I hunt varmints and predators all year on friends farms,down here,even after Bear season opens on Sept.8. It helps with sheep and cattle losses and secures private property to hunt Deer. Everybody wins.
Its no different than hunting any other year. If you want to shoot a bull, you have to be near the bull tag.
You can't go wondering off on your own and shoot a bull, just because the calf season is open. Nor can you go wondering off on your own and shoot a bull, just because you have a cow tag in your pocket.
End of story.
Sorry but I beg to differ on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by blargon
Before you could "legally" hunt calves, and be 2 or 2 hundred miles from an adult tag.
Not so this year until the calf season opens. So therefore be in contact and close proximity to the adult tag holder at all times.
Another option as I said prior and others added to is to have either a bear, wolf or deer tag as long as the season is open.
Otherwise, have your gun or bow encased anytime you are not near the adult tag!! And be prepared to answer a lot of questions from a C. O. As to why, when, how ,where,etcetera.
Before you could wander anywhere you wanted to ,anytime you wanted to scouting, back to camp, call of nature or just a drive , gun or bow not encased legally. Not so now.
End of story.
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by bushman
I agree. I think some guys are trying to justify expanding their range in search of a bull by having other tags. Makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by blargon
If your groups intention is to get a bull having a cow tag doesn't make a difference as you still have to be close to the bull tag holder.
You are missing the point. Without a valid game seal ( calf tag and no season, used your seal already,) you cannot be in possession of a high powered rifle, uncased, unless you have a wolf, bear, deer tag, OR you are following the party hunting rules. Whereas before, you still had a valid calf seal. By having a cow tag, he can still prowl around on his own, without being party hunting for their bull. It has nothing to do with "expanding his range" . Read Bushmans post again !!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Obi-wanShinobi
I don't know about you guys but when we are hunting moose we don't prowl around by ourselves with an uncased rifle unless you are the tag holder. Always been that way even with an open calf season as you still can't shoot an adult moose unless you are the tag holder or are party hunting.
We still prowl around and scout just without the rifle.
The hand wringing here is unbelievable. If you aren't following the party hunt rules, put the gun in a case.
Have a good season everyone and be safe.
No hand wringing or worry warts.Quote:
Originally Posted by blargon
Several of us have been saying the same thing all along right from the outset!!
Party hunt,be a tag holder,have a tag for bear or deer or put the gun in a case. Different this year as opposed to other years.
And for the record I must be crazy. I have driven 20 hours and hunted a long way from a tag.. Lots of times I would scout alone while folks had a rest. BUT I COULD STILL SHOOT A CALF. Not so this year, that is all we have been saying.
I don't see hand-wringing,I see confusion. Bite the bullet and put a Bear tag in your wallet. Then,you can "scout" and hunt until you're blue in the face anywhere in the province. You never know,you might even get a chance to get to take a Bear.Quote:
Originally Posted by blargon
Precisely !!!! We always did a morning sit and call, then head back for breakfast, then jump in the trucks, split up to scout and if really lucky, whack a calf. In 35 years, we've taken 3 calves. Only the truck with the tag holder was able to fill the adult tag. This year, not legal ! I wonder how many guys will get charged this year for having a rifle uncased and no valid tag.... Some obviously don't understand the concept !Quote:
Originally Posted by bushman
This makes no sense at all ! If one of our guys missed a calf because his gun was in his case, he'd be doing dishes the rest of the week !!!! Lol. You must be joking ...... Right !Quote:
Originally Posted by Obi-wanShinobi
Without the calf season, it'll cut way down on the road warriors.
Its a pretty easy concept to understand. If you are not near the tag holder, put your gun away or go hunt during the 2 week calf season!
Have to agree with you on this one rick!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Joking????? Each to their own,I guess!!! I know where my gun will be in an open calf season,irregardless of proximity to an adult tag!!! NOT IN THE CASE!!!!!!!!
Or have a bear,deer or wolf tag if the season is open and hunt them. Fairly simple concept to grasp!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by blargon
Maybe a little bit of confusion for some!! Maybe a little bit of an attempt at dictating by some!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
What ever happened to live and let live??????
Don't worry Rick, just hunt the way you do and I'll hunt the way I do. We have no fear of getting a ticket with an uncased rifle because we'll be party hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
Still don't know why some guys who want it like last year just don't go during the open calf season??? If you're so worried about it just skip the first 2 weeks of the season and there's no problem.
Not worried at all ! We know the regs, and are trying to explain the nuances of this years hunt. There will be lots of guys that will run afoul of the regs this year, because of the changes. Lots won't think of the tag issue because they have hunted for several years, and become complacent. For the first year in 35, our group won't be moose hunting. The calf season is in prime deer hunting time, and we have lots of tags to fill !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Obi-wanShinobi
To all who are going, good luck !
hey Rick, if you can believe it, one of the guys son drew a Bull tag. i'm not going up and quite honestly not into it this year because of the changes etc and personal reasons. both he and his son are going up and i think maybe a couple of the guys may decided to head up.
will keep you posted.
"E"
Wow, he must have sat on a horseshoe ! They shouldn't have to worry about a crowd !Quote:
Originally Posted by Elvis